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Tarminic
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.07.30 01:21:00 -
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I'll make this short and sweet.
Currently, it's possible to use alts on the same account to support an issue. While CCP (and possibly the CSMs are capable of seeing how many accounts are behind a specific number of supporting votes, this can still be exploited to inflate the number of supporting votes which harms the overall legitimacy of the system and can distort the perspective of players wishing to weigh in on an issue. This needs to be fixed as soon as possible.
That is all. ---------------- Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.83 (Updated 7/3) |
Tarminic
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.07.30 01:21:00 -
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I'm supporting this topic with my main... ---------------- Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.83 (Updated 7/3) |
Cinimrat
Black Flame Industries
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Posted - 2008.07.30 01:22:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic I'm supporting this topic with my main...
...And now with my alt.
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Gabriel Darkefyre
Crystal Ship
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Posted - 2008.07.30 01:23:00 -
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Edited by: Gabriel Darkefyre on 30/07/2008 01:23:29 Supporting this Topic Again with my Main (and only) Character.
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Tarminic
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.07.30 01:29:00 -
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Originally by: Gabriel Darkefyre Supporting this Topic Again with my Main (and only) Character.
Or maybe you're my other alt?! It's become self aware! ---------------- Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.83 (Updated 7/3) |
Treelox
Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party
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Posted - 2008.07.30 01:39:00 -
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Some where in the Nano Thread(s) insanity over the last couple of days, in one of the threads here in the Assembly Hall. I believe LaVista or maybe it was Jade, said that CCP is able to look at the tallys on their end on a per account basis.
I do think though for us the on washed masses it would be nice to see that same "per account" vote opposed to 3 votes per account mayhem we have right now. --
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B'wana
Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party
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Posted - 2008.07.30 01:40:00 -
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Hello I too support this plan....
No I am not the alt of the above poster....promise
p.s. you only get to see the one alt, the others portrait is soo ugly small children would cry in fright
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Malachon Draco
eXceed Inc. eXceed.
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Posted - 2008.07.30 09:25:00 -
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Ok testing this. I thought you could only support with 1 char per account.
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Otellus
Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2008.07.30 09:26:00 -
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Edited by: Otellus on 30/07/2008 09:26:36 and now with my alt on the same account.
Eidt: Hmm, works indeed.
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Daan Sai
HAZCON Inc
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Posted - 2008.07.30 09:55:00 -
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Agreed, it should be 1 vote 1 account, and transparent to the forum members as well as the folks around the back, to avoid inflated bandwagon effects.
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LaVista Vista
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Posted - 2008.07.30 10:16:00 -
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Originally by: Treelox Some where in the Nano Thread(s) insanity over the last couple of days, in one of the threads here in the Assembly Hall. I believe LaVista or maybe it was Jade, said that CCP is able to look at the tallys on their end on a per account basis.
I do think though for us the on washed masses it would be nice to see that same "per account" vote opposed to 3 votes per account mayhem we have right now.
That must have been jade.
But right now, I think this is a limitation of the forum system, which seem to work on a per-character basis.
But yes, I fully agree. This is a major flaw. It needs to be worked out for the future of CSM. If CCP wants to have a body like this, it will have to be done right. The current way, isn't.
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EBank LaVista
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Posted - 2008.07.30 10:17:00 -
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Supportin' dis.
At least my alts are fairly easy to actually find
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Blancanieves
Increasing Success by Lowering Expectations
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Posted - 2008.07.30 10:51:00 -
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I support this topic. -
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Monologue
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Posted - 2008.07.30 10:51:00 -
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Supported again.
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2008.07.30 10:52:00 -
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Has my full support, inflating votes with dummies is something akin to election fraud... -------- Ideas for: Mining Ships |
Contenance
Nonchalante
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Posted - 2008.07.30 10:53:00 -
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And again.
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Jarne
Increasing Success by Lowering Expectations
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Posted - 2008.07.30 10:55:00 -
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I support this. - Success=Achievements/Expectations
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Yolandia
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.07.30 10:56:00 -
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Me2.
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Lindibindi
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.07.30 10:57:00 -
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I support this issue.
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Sorted
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2008.07.30 11:16:00 -
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urm? divide all the results by 3?????
Vote against the nano nerf! http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=832371
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J'Mkarr Soban
Proxenetae Invicti
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Posted - 2008.07.30 11:27:00 -
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Originally by: Treelox ...on washed masses...
That sounds like an event trigger.
Cat_OnWashed() { this.Extract(human.Eyes, new Spoon(Spoon.Rusty)); }
Also, supported.
-- These are my personal views and in no way represent the views of Proxenetae Invicti, which maintains a neutral stance stemming from the strong ethics demanded of its work. |
Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2008.07.30 11:28:00 -
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Edited by: Crumplecorn on 30/07/2008 11:28:06 You mean people actually take the thumbs up icons seriously?
I've so often seen people support an idea but forget to check the little box that I wouldn't even rely on them to get the overall pro/anti mood of a thread, let alone anything approaching a meaningful tally.
Although I suppose people will be more careful to /support in threads like the nano ones.
Edit because I forgot to support -
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Sorted
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2008.07.30 12:22:00 -
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Originally by: J'Mkarr Soban
Fool. Some people don't do this, so you can't. I'm one of the extremely small minority that doesn't even use alts on the same account, never mind other accounts.
The no-nerf vs pro nerf. No nerf is DOUBLE + the pro nerf.
I'm sure that there was padding on either side but however you cut it more people are voicing to stop the changes than to support them as it doesnt just effect nano ships....
its a BAD idea and you knows it foo.. Vote against the nano nerf! http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=832371
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Gabriel Darkefyre
Minmatar Crystal Ship
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Posted - 2008.07.30 12:50:00 -
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Originally by: Sorted
Originally by: J'Mkarr Soban
Fool. Some people don't do this, so you can't. I'm one of the extremely small minority that doesn't even use alts on the same account, never mind other accounts.
The no-nerf vs pro nerf. No nerf is DOUBLE + the pro nerf.
I'm sure that there was padding on either side but however you cut it more people are voicing to stop the changes than to support them as it doesnt just effect nano ships....
its a BAD idea and you knows it foo..
Ummmm, you realise that this thread hasn't got anything to do with the Nano-Nerf itself, right? It's to do with the proven flaw in the current system where multiple Alts on the same account can voice support for any given issue thus padding the perceived support and increasing the amount of noise created in the thread, drowning out any reasonable suggestions for how a given idea could be better.
This was proved as being possible with the first three posts on this thread with Tarmanic supporting this with both himself and one of his Alts on the same account as Tarmanic.
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Myrhial Arkenath
Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2008.07.30 13:38:00 -
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Supported
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Tarminic
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.07.30 14:02:00 -
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Originally by: Sorted
Originally by: J'Mkarr Soban Fool. Some people don't do this, so you can't. I'm one of the extremely small minority that doesn't even use alts on the same account, never mind other accounts.
The no-nerf vs pro nerf. No nerf is DOUBLE + the pro nerf.
I'm sure that there was padding on either side but however you cut it more people are voicing to stop the changes than to support them as it doesnt just effect nano ships....
its a BAD idea and you knows it foo..
This thread has nothing to do with any kind of nerfing. Get out. ---------------- Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.83 (Updated 7/3) |
J'Mkarr Soban
Amarr Proxenetae Invicti
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Posted - 2008.07.30 14:20:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: Sorted
Originally by: J'Mkarr Soban Fool. Some people don't do this, so you can't. I'm one of the extremely small minority that doesn't even use alts on the same account, never mind other accounts.
The no-nerf vs pro nerf. No nerf is DOUBLE + the pro nerf.
I'm sure that there was padding on either side but however you cut it more people are voicing to stop the changes than to support them as it doesnt just effect nano ships....
its a BAD idea and you knows it foo..
This thread has nothing to do with any kind of nerfing. Get out.
Thanks I wasn't quite sure what to say, my ******ometer temporarily suspended all neural functions.
-- These are my personal views and in no way represent the views of Proxenetae Invicti, which maintains a neutral stance stemming from the strong ethics demanded of its work. |
MenanceWhite
Red Light Navy
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Posted - 2008.07.30 14:21:00 -
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Originally by: Torfi There's alot. That can be done. With.. corpses
Originally by: Oveur
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Leyvan
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Posted - 2008.07.30 14:22:00 -
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Edited by: Leyvan on 30/07/2008 14:23:13 /signed
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Emi Raaf
Emi Raaf's Corporation
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Posted - 2008.07.30 14:23:00 -
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Edited by: Emi Raaf on 30/07/2008 14:25:23 Im Tarminics 3rd alt, I am triping the dataforce by supporting this thread
no serious
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