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Falbala
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Posted - 2004.05.29 09:35:00 -
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Edited by: Falbala on 29/05/2004 11:42:34
I just had a kill mission with a Thorax (the thief and 4x35k escorts), my gunnery skills are around 30k sp...
But I have heavy drones, and came with 4 ogres, 3 berserkers and 5 hornets. They have killed all my drones (around 400k cost) and two were left dropped my armor a lot, I had to warp away. 300k repair bill.
I repair and come back, try to kill the two left, doesnt work they have new missiles and their guns hit me for 90+. 150k repair.
So I go back to the main base and buy this: 27 hobgoblins and 9 warriors. Cost: 150k. I go back to the mission spot, they kill 10 drones but I kill them with my guns.
Cost of mission: 1M isk. No rare drop. 75k reward. No time bonus. From now, I am going only with light drones, there is absolutely no point using heavy drones in missions. And I am glad I didn't lose the thorax^^.
Edit: yes I should have used repair module but I didn't have one and thought about it after. However this is still 500k+ cost way too much for using heavy drones in a mission.
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sableye
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Posted - 2004.05.29 10:50:00 -
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with heavy drones you got to wait for the npc's to target you first and try deploy them at most 15km from target unless emergency as they just take so long to travel anywhere, another thing you can do is deploy your drones after you targetted but move away so that the drones are not diectly int he path between you and the npc, with a heavy drone swarm a few will get taken down, just by random missle hits if there's missles firing between you.
Its not a good idea to mix drones either as I think they all travel at differnt speeds.
I want to use drones as well but i agreee with yer heavy drones are way to expensive to be losing alot of.
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AbraKadaver
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Posted - 2004.05.29 11:19:00 -
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Take lots of light drones and use them to distract the npcs, while you shoot them with your 5 railguns/blasters. Should work, and light drones are of negligable cost anyway. Oh and Rogue Pirate Escorts tend to drop a medium drone each. 
..:: Electro-shock therapy ::..
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Ari Kristinn
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Posted - 2004.05.29 11:23:00 -
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I've done a houndred lvl 3 kill missions with only heavy drones, only time i got into trouble was when i sent the drones in to attack before the npc's targeted me.
My tactic was just based arround a bunch of cap relay's, sheild boosters and tanking while my drones wack them. Since my gunnery skills are somewhat arround 1k...
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Pehma Hess
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Posted - 2004.05.29 14:23:00 -
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Yep, I agree with that tactic of not deploying your drones until you are targetted. However, I have noticed that drones have become less effective in combat. I am a big fan of the drones and I don't use them much anymore in any system lower than a .6 security status as they just aren't as effective as they used to be (in my opinion)
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Chrome Born
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Posted - 2004.05.29 14:25:00 -
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Just curious, how did you get to the point where the rats where hitting you in the first place ?
What kind of setup do you have on your Rax? I run kill missions all day in a Rax, and although I have to admit when I first started doing them I had problems, I dont anymore and have not needed drones for ages.
Chrome Born.
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Falbala
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Posted - 2004.05.29 15:22:00 -
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I use 4x250mm with thorium, a smartbomb, a cl5 medium shield, a mwd, an ab and a lot of stuff to make this work in low slots^^.
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Serenity Justice
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Posted - 2004.05.29 20:33:00 -
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Edited by: Serenity Justice on 29/05/2004 21:10:01
I can do lvl 3 kill missions with my 8 wasps and it's very very very rare to lose even one. I warp in at 15km (I use a Megathron now, used to be at 50km with the Thorax) so the rats target me almost right away. I drop the drones immediately as well. The only time I lose a drone is as mentioned above, when the rats haven't targetted me yet. I simply do not command the drones to attack, they attack the target who goes hostile on me all on their own and that target simply ignores them.
I lose maybe one drone per 50 missions and I can't say I do anything overly special to keep them alive, just don't send them after a target who is not hostile against your ship.
Also, vs Rogue Escorts they use Thunderbolt Heavy EM missiles so you must use a Photon Scattering field to reduce the damage or your Thorax will take a beating right fast. I always added the EM ward and dropped my mwd for those missions in my Thorax. With a Med shield booster and lots of cap relays (or power diags if you still have low shields) in the lows I never lost my shields again against them. |
Chrome Born
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Posted - 2004.05.29 22:25:00 -
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My Rax setup for mission is...
5x named 250 mm (normal will do but named do it better and quicker ;)
Med Shield booster, 10 Mn AB, Cap recharger, 4X Reactor control 1's and one cap flux coil.
I target em at about 57k fire a shot or two till they get to 45k then turn tail and leave the AB running while I blast the hell out of em, oh I use tungsten ammo.
I have all my Gunnery Skills at around level 4 and I do mean ALL of em, and nav and AB at 4 same for electronics and engineering.
Hope that helps.
Chrome Born.
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Pandora Panda
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Posted - 2004.05.30 03:45:00 -
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Rogue pirate escorts do mainly EM damage, with some kinetic/explosive thrown in. Fit an EM hardner, a large booster, a cap injector, some smartbombs, and 5 cap relays. When they start shooting you, you should easily outtank them. Kill them with drones.
Or you could use a normal setup and just kill them like any other NPC, but it seems that you tried that already. Although they do good damage for 35k cruisers, they are paper-thin and a set of 250s should tear them apart from range.
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Falbala
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Posted - 2004.05.30 07:07:00 -
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All my gunnery skills are at 1, except gunnery, small hybrid and small energy 3 and medium hybrid 2^^. Thanks for the tips everyone  .
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