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Achura Model	Posted - 2008.07.31 21:07:00 - [1] Edited by: Achura Model on 31/07/2008 21:11:07 Speed-tank will become useless after nanonerf, so 5 med slots for shield tanking CS will be unsufficient. Drake for example has 6 slots, and it's BC. So I guess it'd be right to move 1 low slot to med. Sleipnir then will be able to fit web/warpdis/scramble w/o degrading significantly its tank. Well, and as to Nighthawk it's unlike Sleipnir not a close range ship. That's why web/dis/scramble isn't must-have for it.
Anubis Hatak OUTLAWZ IMMORTAL	Posted - 2008.07.31 21:08:00 - [2] The sleipnir tanks well with an x-large shield booster and an invul II... use your low slots for damage mods and kill stuff before it kills you...
AstroPhobic Minmatar	Posted - 2008.07.31 21:12:00 - [3] Originally by: Anubis Hatak The sleipnir tanks well with an x-large shield booster and an invul II... use your low slots for damage mods and kill stuff before it kills you... Guess what, the maelstrom tanks well with an X-large shield boost and invul II. Wait, you want do OUTDAMAGE other ships? With projectiles? What are you, on crack?
Achura Model	Posted - 2008.07.31 21:14:00 - [4] Edited by: Achura Model on 31/07/2008 21:15:19 Originally by: Anubis Hatak The sleipnir tanks well with an x-large shield booster and an invul II... use your low slots for damage mods and kill stuff before it kills you... X-large is good with nano. When you always can esqape. W/o nano you just won't have enough capa and die very often. Maelstrem can be fitted with large capbooster (even 2 of them sometimes). Yuo can't fit large capbooster on Sleipnir.
P'uck	Posted - 2008.07.31 21:14:00 - [5] Originally by: Achura Model Speed-tank will become useless after nanonerf, so 5 med slots for shield tanking CS will be unsufficient. Oh noes! Unpossible!
Anubis Hatak OUTLAWZ IMMORTAL	Posted - 2008.07.31 21:15:00 - [6] Originally by: AstroPhobic Originally by: Anubis Hatak The sleipnir tanks well with an x-large shield booster and an invul II... use your low slots for damage mods and kill stuff before it kills you... Guess what, the maelstrom tanks well with an X-large shield boost and invul II. Wait, you want do OUTDAMAGE other ships? With projectiles? What are you, on crack? Yes
Achura Model	Posted - 2008.07.31 21:19:00 - [7] Originally by: AstroPhobic Originally by: Anubis Hatak The sleipnir tanks well with an x-large shield booster and an invul II... use your low slots for damage mods and kill stuff before it kills you... Guess what, the maelstrom tanks well with an X-large shield boost and invul II. Wait, you want do OUTDAMAGE other ships? With projectiles? What are you, on crack? Just check how long Sleipnir can tank with X-Large. 50 seconds? And then? Die? Great for 200kk ship i'd say.
Riho Gallente Mercenary Forces	Posted - 2008.07.31 21:20:00 - [8] my sleip has allways tanked fine... ty.. and it was not nano.. ---------------------------------- Fighting for Minmatar o7 Yes... this is my main. Extreme Troll Slayer...
AstroPhobic Minmatar	Posted - 2008.07.31 21:21:00 - [9] Originally by: Achura Model Just check how long Sleipnir can tank with X-Large. 50 seconds? And then? Die? Great for 200kk ship i'd say. Quite aware. Enough for GTFO, but thanks to no more nano, there is no GTFO. There is 1 minute of tanking and if you don't do enough DPS by then (lol.. projectiles... dps, lol lol.), you die. This is the main reason I never flew sleipnirs, you have to have some decent gear to make them nano speeds, and if you're caught you have a very very small frame of time to kill the thing or you lose 300mil alone with the ship.
Barsexual	Posted - 2008.07.31 21:21:00 - [10] why use the sleipnir over maelstrom after nano/agility/mass nerf?
Achura Model	Posted - 2008.07.31 21:27:00 - [11] Originally by: Riho my sleip has allways tanked fine... ty.. and it was not nano.. And I can kill titan with shuttle... It's just words. Facts say other.
Rexthor Hammerfists The Movement	Posted - 2008.07.31 21:31:00 - [12] Edited by: Rexthor Hammerfists on 31/07/2008 21:32:46 The sleipnir will be even better then it is now, being able to dive under the tracking of battleships with its speed and low sig radius as webs only slow it down by 60% itll rip blastermegas apart. I honestly dont know about its tanking abilities, altho with the changes to scramblers fitting one could replace web+warpdisruptor. - Any good reason for gateguns shooting drones and thus removing dronebased ships from pirating?
Spaztick Canadian Imperial Armaments EVESpace	Posted - 2008.07.31 21:35:00 - [13] Who flies a Sleipnir to do damage? I thought our job was to get primaried then laugh when we tank then warp out with 5 WCS fitted. But seriously, more people should have some type of spacer in their sigs to show it's not part of the post.
Achura Model	Posted - 2008.07.31 21:36:00 - [14] Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists Edited by: Rexthor Hammerfists on 31/07/2008 21:32:46 The sleipnir will be even better then it is now, being able to dive under the tracking of battleships with its speed and low sig radius as webs only slow it down by 60% itll rip blastermegas apart. I honestly dont know about its tanking abilities, altho with the changes to scramblers fitting one could replace web+warpdisruptor. Lol man, just tell me you're joking. Under web, w/o mwd, with BC signature, can tank BS... What are you talking about?
Riho Gallente Mercenary Forces	Posted - 2008.07.31 21:37:00 - [15] Originally by: Achura Model Originally by: Riho my sleip has allways tanked fine... ty.. and it was not nano.. And I can kill titan with shuttle... It's just words. Facts say other. well.. i pvp in mine... not solo but in a gang. mids: mwd, point, faction xl booster, invul, inj iv been thinking about a semi buffer fit allso... mwd, invul and 3x lse.. but never have acctually made it bast EFT on that fit ---------------------------------- Fighting for Minmatar o7 Yes... this is my main. Extreme Troll Slayer...
AstroPhobic Minmatar	Posted - 2008.07.31 21:39:00 - [16] Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists Edited by: Rexthor Hammerfists on 31/07/2008 21:32:46 The sleipnir will be even better then it is now, being able to dive under the tracking of battleships with its speed and low sig radius as webs only slow it down by 60% itll rip blastermegas apart. I honestly dont know about its tanking abilities, altho with the changes to scramblers fitting one could replace web+warpdisruptor. ITT: One of us doesn't fly a sleipnir. Can we find him?
Stab Wounds Caldari State Protectorate	Posted - 2008.07.31 21:40:00 - [17] Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists Edited by: Rexthor Hammerfists on 31/07/2008 21:32:46 The sleipnir will be even better then it is now, being able to dive under the tracking of battleships with its speed and low sig radius as webs only slow it down by 60% itll rip blastermegas apart. I honestly dont know about its tanking abilities, altho with the changes to scramblers fitting one could replace web+warpdisruptor. This
Spaztick Canadian Imperial Armaments EVESpace	Posted - 2008.07.31 21:42:00 - [18] Highs: Med Nos x6 Mids: XL SB x1 Amp x1 Invuln Field x2 Med Cap booster x1 Lows: WCS x4 CoProcessor Rigs: CCCx2 Tanks 990 DPS indefinitely (EFT warrioring it, I only get 919 with my skills) with 30k EHP. Rush on a target, call primary and laugh when they can't pop you. Align to a nearby object or even a safespot, when you get low just warp off. You win, your fleet wins and you don't lose a 200m ship trying to do lolDPS. But seriously, more people should have some type of spacer in their sigs to show it's not part of the post.
Achura Model	Posted - 2008.07.31 21:45:00 - [19] Edited by: Achura Model on 31/07/2008 21:45:21 Originally by: Riho Edited by: Riho on 31/07/2008 21:38:21 Originally by: Achura Model Originally by: Riho my sleip has allways tanked fine... ty.. and it was not nano.. And I can kill titan with shuttle... It's just words. Facts say other. well.. i pvp in mine... not solo but in a gang. mids: mwd, point, faction xl booster, invul, inj iv been thinking about a semi buffer fit allso... mwd, invul and 3x lse.. but never have acctually made it bast EFT on that fit edit: or disruptor instead of invul Don't forget there won't be small gangs after nanonerf. And your set-up sucks for blobs... I'd say not only yours but any.
Liang Nuren Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.31 21:45:00 - [20] Originally by: Stab Wounds This Dude, you show up in every matari thread to tell us how much better off we are than Caldari and how the whole world hates Caldari because every single one of their ships sucks. -Liang -- I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent. -- Mahatma Gandhi
Lyria Skydancer Amarr Eve Defence Force	Posted - 2008.07.31 21:46:00 - [21] Originally by: Liang Nuren Originally by: Stab Wounds This Dude, you show up in every matari thread to tell us how much better off we are than Caldari and how the whole world hates Caldari because every single one of their ships sucks. -Liang He is like a caldari Lyria.
Liang Nuren Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.31 21:47:00 - [22] Edited by: Liang Nuren on 31/07/2008 21:47:48 Originally by: Lyria Skydancer He is like a caldari Lyria. I thought about saying that too. :P -Liang Ed: Except that you seem to actually have a clue when you're not actively campaigning to nerf something. I still don't understand why you campaign to nerf things that already suck. :-/
Lyria Skydancer Amarr Eve Defence Force	Posted - 2008.07.31 21:50:00 - [23] Originally by: Liang Nuren Edited by: Liang Nuren on 31/07/2008 21:47:48 Originally by: Lyria Skydancer He is like a caldari Lyria. I thought about saying that too. :P -Liang Ed: Except that you seem to actually have a clue when you're not actively campaigning to nerf something. I still don't understand why you campaign to nerf things that already suck. :-/ Actually right now I'd only whole-heartly campain a falcon nerf.
Liang Nuren Perkone	Posted - 2008.07.31 21:58:00 - [24] Originally by: Lyria Skydancer Actually right now I'd only whole-heartly campain a falcon nerf. Yet you still troll the Matari threads pointing out how wtfly over powered every single Matari ship is. I mean, each and every one of them is at least as good as any Amarrian ship because of cap use, and high falloff. :) -Liang -- I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent. -- Mahatma Gandhi
Rexthor Hammerfists The Movement	Posted - 2008.07.31 22:01:00 - [25] Edited by: Rexthor Hammerfists on 31/07/2008 22:02:08 Originally by: AstroPhobic ITT: One of us doesn't fly a sleipnir. Can we find him? Thank you for using our time for such an constructive post. The Sleipnirs sig radius is 240m, a Ion t2 Blaster even on a mega will have real problems tracking the sleipnir going 150~ at 1.5km. And the shots that actually hit are easily tanked with the xlarge booster - the sleipnir is one if not the commandship there is to take out battleships, and support too while were at it. edit, heres a hint, sigradius decreasing warfare mods will be real big with the coming changes for bcs and cruisers - Any good reason for gateguns shooting drones and thus removing dronebased ships from pirating?
AstroPhobic Minmatar	Posted - 2008.07.31 22:04:00 - [26] Edited by: AstroPhobic on 31/07/2008 22:08:15 Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists rabble Here's a bigger hint: command ships aren't made to take out battleships. Cooler edit: You're trying to say a ship will be better post-nerf, when you can't fly it, and the nerf isn't even in place yet. Have you tried it yet? No? Stop theorycrafting then.
Xyleya moon7empler Ev0ke	Posted - 2008.07.31 22:09:00 - [27] HIGH: 7x 425mm AC II MEDS: 10MN MWD II, GIST X-TYPE XL SB, PITH X-TYPE SBA, DG INVUFIELD, MED CAP BOOSTER II LOWS: 3x PDU II, 2x GYRO II RIGS: KINETIC, THERMAL You can tank 1300 DPS as long as you got 800's in your cargo and nobody neutralizing you. Not a reasonable fitting? .
Spaztick Canadian Imperial Armaments EVESpace	Posted - 2008.07.31 22:15:00 - [28] Don't forget TD or web drones. Or use just Warrior IIs for those pesky intys. But seriously, more people should have some type of spacer in their sigs to show it's not part of the post.
Achura Model	Posted - 2008.07.31 22:23:00 - [29] Originally by: Xyleya HIGH: 7x 425mm AC II MEDS: 10MN MWD II, GIST X-TYPE XL SB, PITH X-TYPE SBA, DG INVUFIELD, MED CAP BOOSTER II LOWS: 3x PDU II, 2x GYRO II RIGS: KINETIC, THERMAL You can tank 1300 DPS as long as you got 800's in your cargo and nobody neutralizing you. Not a reasonable fitting? Yes, it's great. Wanna be my sponsor?
Mashie Saldana Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams	Posted - 2008.07.31 22:32:00 - [30] Originally by: AstroPhobic Here's a bigger hint: command ships aren't made to take out battleships. Still they do. Not saying it's the best idea to try and with the improved drone AI I doubt I would have won that fight today (that one was the evening before the NOS nerf was deployed btw).

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