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White Ronin Gallente Screenout	Posted - 2008.08.01 00:07:00 - [1] Edited by: White Ronin on 01/08/2008 00:09:11 There used to be places to explore. Places that were not overrun by others where the sound of the solar wind is all that could be heard. Now, you cant swing a stick normally without hitting another player. And while I understand the "fostering of a pvp enviroment" I think you are taking it a bit far. Kinda strange we have exploration yet you are hardly ever more then 5 jumps from another player. Where is the unknown? Where is the room for growth? I am not saying make another region full of new stuff that has never been seen before. I am saying you could plant 100-500 more systems with the same old stuff in them around the universe and we would be a better game for it. As it stands now it feels like a giant ant farm. How about a little room to move there devs? 35k online is crowded no matter what you say. 150+ capital class ships moving from system to system means its crowded and we need something to shake it up. Nothing spectacular. Add that "new" and "unknown" stuff on the fly AND DONT TELL ANYONE YOU ADDED IT. But really, it would make the universe so much more then the goldfish bowl it is becoming now. Edit - and CSM, I remember one of you saying that CCP asked you to think big. Guess what... Adding 500+ new system and not telling anyone what the hell is in there is just that. And it gives you a reason to actually have a mobile station/ship thingy. As it stands now you dont have a big enough bowl for the whale you are trying to get put in game. So you get something and the community gets something. Everyone is happy. --------------------------------------------- "There have always been ghosts in the machine . . . random segments of code that have grouped together to form unexpected protocols. "
White Ronin Gallente Screenout	Posted - 2008.08.01 00:07:00 - [2] Edited by: White Ronin on 01/08/2008 00:09:11 There used to be places to explore. Places that were not overrun by others where the sound of the solar wind is all that could be heard. Now, you cant swing a stick normally without hitting another player. And while I understand the "fostering of a pvp enviroment" I think you are taking it a bit far. Kinda strange we have exploration yet you are hardly ever more then 5 jumps from another player. Where is the unknown? Where is the room for growth? I am not saying make another region full of new stuff that has never been seen before. I am saying you could plant 100-500 more systems with the same old stuff in them around the universe and we would be a better game for it. As it stands now it feels like a giant ant farm. How about a little room to move there devs? 35k online is crowded no matter what you say. 150+ capital class ships moving from system to system means its crowded and we need something to shake it up. Nothing spectacular. Add that "new" and "unknown" stuff on the fly AND DONT TELL ANYONE YOU ADDED IT. But really, it would make the universe so much more then the goldfish bowl it is becoming now. Edit - and CSM, I remember one of you saying that CCP asked you to think big. Guess what... Adding 500+ new system and not telling anyone what the hell is in there is just that. And it gives you a reason to actually have a mobile station/ship thingy. As it stands now you dont have a big enough bowl for the whale you are trying to get put in game. So you get something and the community gets something. Everyone is happy. --------------------------------------------- "There have always been ghosts in the machine . . . random segments of code that have grouped together to form unexpected protocols. "
Fahtim Meidires Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.08.01 00:36:00 - [3] Low sec used to be empty before FW, I'll give you that that may be crowded now. But while the majority of 0.0 is claimed, it is also mostly empty save for alliance hubs. Go there and explore (wouldn't be opposed to more exploration sites though). If you're argument is that you will get killed by the locals, think what would happen if you added more systems. There would be a rush of entities to claim the space. While in theory the idea of empty space is refreshing, you must realize that it will soon be filled up naturally by arbitrage.
Sin Fae Income Redistribution Service	Posted - 2008.08.01 03:06:00 - [4] I would recommend a cataclysmic event that would wipe out everything say, in a number of regions of 0.0, and watch the fireworks with the power vacuum. The natural world had a few ice ages. Maybe its time for New Eden to have one. "Suicide Gank Someone Day"(prizes)
Fahtim Meidires Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.08.01 03:08:00 - [5] Originally by: Sin Fae I would recommend a cataclysmic event that would wipe out everything say, in a number of regions of 0.0, and watch the fireworks with the power vacuum. The natural world had a few ice ages. Maybe its time for New Eden to have one. Sure, it would be called make a new server. But that's against the entire philosophy of EVE.
Sin Fae Income Redistribution Service	Posted - 2008.08.01 03:21:00 - [6] Edited by: Sin Fae on 01/08/2008 03:21:51 Originally by: Fahtim Meidires Sure, it would be called make a new server. But that's against the entire philosophy of EVE. A few regions is hardly a new server. Coming from a Goon, however, I understand your fear of this thought. I think you meant to say "But that's against the entire philosophy of GoonSwarm" . . . "Suicide Gank Someone Day"(prizes)
soldieroffortune 258	Posted - 2008.08.01 03:21:00 - [7] Edited by: soldieroffortune 258 on 01/08/2008 03:23:22 i like the idea of exploring uncharted space, it would open up a whole new branch of occupations in the game, and it has been described in this thread in alot of detail: Linkage
Artemis Rose Odd End of the Universe	Posted - 2008.08.01 07:42:00 - [8] The EVE population is heavily centered in a handful of systems, leaving the great majority of them nearly empty. __________________________________________________ Currently Playing: Trolls from Outer Space Current Equipment: VISAcard chain mail, +2 Amulet of Epic Whine. WTB Purple Nerf Bat.
Fahtim Meidires Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.08.01 07:46:00 - [9] Originally by: Sin Fae Edited by: Sin Fae on 01/08/2008 03:21:51 Originally by: Fahtim Meidires Sure, it would be called make a new server. But that's against the entire philosophy of EVE. A few regions is hardly a new server. Coming from a Goon, however, I understand your fear of this thought. I think you meant to say "But that's against the entire philosophy of GoonSwarm" . . . Sorry for the misunderstanding. 'New server' was in reference to your cataclysmic event idea, not to the addition to regions. I still stand by my original post that they wouldn't be empty for very long.
Sylthi Coreward Pan-Galactic	Posted - 2008.08.01 08:04:00 - [10] Edited by: Sylthi on 01/08/2008 08:07:25 Honestly, I can't see as how more star systems is ever a BAD idea. And, just as frankly, CCP has not let the number of star systems grow with the populace of the game at ALL. In sharded games, populace expansion can simply be handled by more shards. But, since sharding is against very basic concepts in Eve, the ONLY other answer is to give an increasing player base more room to play in. This, CCP has simply failed to do. And, I think is one of the major reasons that you have seen the game populace DECREASE since the heady days of 50k+ records being broke on the server every couple of weeks. After all, when was the last time you saw another concurrent user record set? It's been a while, hasn't it? I support this topic and all of its ideas. The only thing I would add is that you're missing a zero on the end of the number of systems I would like to see added. Yep, my wish is for closer to 5000. By my guess this is what is needed at this point and to allow for a little future growth. No, I am not joking. And yes, I think this is VERY possible with CCP's current resources. One thing I will admit to is that I am and old exploration junkie from all the way back in Beta. I can fondly remember my old record, set in early 2004, when I took a cruise through low-sec and no-sec. I went 54 jumps, without repeating a single system, and didn't see another soul in local the entire trip. Try THAT now days..... I miss those days, and fear they are gone forever. But, what the heck. I'll give the op a thumbs up anyway. Cheers. * *

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