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Soulspatch
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Posted - 2008.08.01 14:24:00 -
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Thats right. You can gank certain stations and get garrented kills from those who attempt to undock. This is a perfectly legal exploit of the game mechanics and CCP will no reimburse ship loses due to this weakness in game play.
How does it work? When you undock you get a count where you cannot redock. At these stations you are also spat out at distance from the station. So even if you did survive the first 30 seconds of combat you cannot re-dock anyway as you are now outside docking range. Sit outside the undocking point, put a web and scram on any poor bastard undocking from these stations, garrented kill.
And unlike jump gates where you get 30 second's of cloak to call for help as well as a random spawn point anywhere in space at 15km's from the gate. Stations spit you out in the same place everytime so there is no guess work involved.
Good luck, good hunting, now go exploit the hell out of these stations.
P.S. Please fix these stations urgently.
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Herschel Yamamoto
Bloodmoney Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.08.01 14:37:00 -
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There's a fairly substantial delay before you can target someone undocking. Align and warp, already. I much prefer the ability to force combat than the old method of someone undocking, killing one member of a station camp, dropping aggro, and redocking. ------------------ Fix the forums! |

Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2008.08.01 16:13:00 -
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A) I wish all stations were like this. B) Its spelled guaranteed C) No support.
Star Fraction | Dare to Dream!
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Sylthi
Minmatar Coreward Pan-Galactic
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Posted - 2008.08.01 16:32:00 -
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Edited by: Sylthi on 01/08/2008 16:32:30 You're complaining about a tactic that has been in place for over 5 yarrs? Oh, sorry, years. 
I sincerely doubt they (the devs) are going to do anything about this one. AND, I am pretty certain that they SHOULDN'T do anything about it even if they were inclined to.
I mean, "Welcome to Eve, undocking can be a biatch." Eve can be a harsh, cruel, and unforgiving mistress. Suck it up, get used to it, grow a pair, or get the F out.
Besides, it's not like there is NOTHING you can do about this by simply being a better (less whinny) player. If this bothers you so much, take steps in your own play style to minimize your risk. I.E. Go to stations that AREN'T as "exploitable" as the ones you are using now.
Just because you don't LIKE an element of the game doesn't mean it should be changed.
No support.
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javer
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.08.01 17:09:00 -
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this is a nice feature to prevent undock gank tactics like some used to thrive on and it was made this way to decrease the undock problems with certain large stn's like jita 4-4 -------------------------------------------- Never argue with an idiot, they will drag you down to their Level and beat you with experience. |

Wedric
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Posted - 2008.08.01 17:21:00 -
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Not only that, but it prevents the truly annoying undock/redock teasing. If you wanna play, now you gotta go all the way. 
No support whatsoever.
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Heartstone
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.08.01 17:43:00 -
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/me points and laughs.
No.
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Trojanman190
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.08.01 19:57:00 -
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I will say go all or nothing. Either every single station spits you out of dock range or non of them do. Its really annoying to pick hq sytems based on whether or not they have a kick out station.
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Lieutenant Isis
Gristle Industries
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Posted - 2008.08.01 20:32:00 -
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They should all spit you outside of redock range. Don't undock unless you're ready to die.
Originally by: Roc Wieler I enhance my RP experience by filling my bathtub with red jello, balancing a wooden plank across it, then play EVE naked on my laptop.
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Aprudena Gist
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.08.01 20:35:00 -
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Originally by: Lieutenant Isis They should all spit you outside of redock range. Don't undock unless you're ready to die.
then they should put some window holes into the stations so you can see outside of it before you undock ( this is a really stupid idea )
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Red Thunder
Most Wanted INC G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2008.08.01 21:11:00 -
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press ctrl space as u undock and u slow down like before the patch
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Aprudena Gist
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.08.01 21:17:00 -
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Originally by: Red Thunder press ctrl space as u undock and u slow down like before the patch
and then your immediately targetable doesn't help at all especially in lag.
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Pithecanthropus
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Posted - 2008.08.01 23:16:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine
A) I wish all stations were like this.
Funny... cuz if that were the case, you wouldn't be hiding and station hugging all the time now would ya... 
If I had a nickel for every time a SF member used the station to save themselves, I'd be the richest in Eve! --------------------------------- Pithecanthropus erectus, a name derived from Greek and Latin roots meaning upright ape-man. |

Farrqua
Minmatar Turbo Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.08.02 00:34:00 -
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Originally by: Soulspatch Thats right. You can gank certain stations and get garrented kills from those who attempt to undock. This is a perfectly legal exploit of the game mechanics and CCP will no reimburse ship loses due to this weakness in game play.
How does it work? When you undock you get a count where you cannot redock. At these stations you are also spat out at distance from the station. So even if you did survive the first 30 seconds of combat you cannot re-dock anyway as you are now outside docking range. Sit outside the undocking point, put a web and scram on any poor bastard undocking from these stations, garrented kill.
And unlike jump gates where you get 30 second's of cloak to call for help as well as a random spawn point anywhere in space at 15km's from the gate. Stations spit you out in the same place everytime so there is no guess work involved.
Good luck, good hunting, now go exploit the hell out of these stations.
P.S. Please fix these stations urgently.
#1 30 seconds of cloak time at a gate WILL NOT give you enough time to get your buddies to help. All you will end up doing is getting your buddies killed which is what most gate campers want you to do any way.
#2 Not all stations are like that. Some have an insane dock/dock range some as far as 60km. I have seen plenty of folk make it back with in plenty of time. I am not to sure what makes you so special you can't. And if it is a specific station, move.
#3 "guaranteed" Linkage
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Soulspatch
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Posted - 2008.08.02 01:30:00 -
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I agree that those who play the docking game are extremely frustrating to deal with. Doesn't mean that station ganks should be handed kills as they are at these stations. It would be nice to see some creative idea's to find a balance between the dock/gank problem.
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