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Armeria	Posted - 2008.08.02 21:47:00 - [1] I want to make a character devoted entirely to mining. How will I go about choosing attributes and skills to each that goal? What skills and in what order do I train them? What attributes do I favor? Any additional advice?
Creche Gallente	Posted - 2008.08.02 22:26:00 - [2] Edited by: Creche on 02/08/2008 22:27:25 Did you even bother reading the sticky? Check the mining links.
Suncats Shadow Caldari Archon Industries Solidus Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.03 00:37:00 - [3] Armeria; Linkage is a must read for every miner. King of the puffy tail
Armeria	Posted - 2008.08.03 07:34:00 - [4] What I would mainly like to know is what attributes is most important to a miner. Does anyone have an answer for that. That doesn't involve reading a 64 page PDF. So I can atleast create my character?
Anane Abaim Technologies	Posted - 2008.08.03 08:15:00 - [5] all attributes are needed equally, cause if you pound on the int and mem for the industry skills then you won't have the wis and perc for training spaceship command to get into a hulk/industrial
Robert Rosenberg Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2008.08.03 08:42:00 - [6] Here is the assumption, assume modified +13 stats (+4 Implants, +4 Advanced Learning, +5 Learning). You want 20+ perception/will. You want 22+ int/mem. You want 16+ charisma.
ImUrDestiny Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.08.03 09:51:00 - [7] Originally by: Anane the wis and perc for training spaceship command to get into a hulk/industrial Well, at least you got 50% right.
Athamai	Posted - 2008.08.11 14:48:00 - [8] Originally by: Anane all attributes are needed equally, cause if you pound on the int and mem for the industry skills then you won't have the wis and perc for training spaceship command to get into a hulk/industrial lol.. All attributes are equal? I think not. Perception & Memory. Perception should be fairly obvious memory controls your industry & drone skills.. This is assuming you'll want top notch drone skills.(I would on my miner) Charisma as low as possible, obviously.(Even if you plan on training mining foreman)
Transmaniacon Minmatar Strike-Force-Alpha	Posted - 2008.08.11 15:30:00 - [9] Intelligence and memory are the attributes that influence Industry skills. Perception will aid in training the required spaceship command skills to pilot an exhumer, but focus on getting intelligence and memory as high as possible. Do not worry about charisma for now.
Capt Romans	Posted - 2008.08.11 17:13:00 - [10] Originally by: Armeria What I would mainly like to know is what attributes is most important to a miner. Does anyone have an answer for that. That doesn't involve reading a 64 page PDF. So I can atleast create my character? Caldari have the best cruiser to mine in.... but their industrial comes up lacking. other than that.... pick whatever you want.

Blake Rathen Caldari State Security and Intelligence Celestial Imperative	Posted - 2008.08.11 17:34:00 - [11] Originally by: Armeria What I would mainly like to know is what attributes is most important to a miner. Does anyone have an answer for that. That doesn't involve reading a 64 page PDF. So I can atleast create my character? Well, the learning curve at the beginning is quite steep. On the flip side, the complexity of the game is what keeps you interested for the long run. The more you read now, the less you will kick yourself later on for making uninformed decisions. One thing I've learned with EVE is that nobody's 'easy answer' is a substitute for learning about something yourself and making your own choices. That said, there are some good suggestions here for attributes, but as you can probably deduce, it also involves a certain amount of personal opinion. My suggestion for your first character - go for a more well-balanced approach to attributes than trying to max out any attribute in particular. This will leave you with the most flexibility. My opinion is that charisma is the least important attribute, so a Caldari Achura or Deteis, a Minmatar Seibestor, or a Gallente Intake are your best bets for a high int-mem character that won't suffer from lack of perc or will, depending on your choice of bloodlines and academy training. Note that your career won't affect attributes, just starting skills, and how many points you have in them. Of course, if you search for 'character creation' in the forums and read up on it, you will be able to make your own judgement call.
00svn Amarr	Posted - 2008.08.12 19:57:00 - [12] Originally by: Capt Romans Caldari have the best cruiser to mine in.... but their industrial comes up lacking. other than that.... pick whatever you want. [/quote Really? [Vexor, Vexor Miner] 844 m3 per cycle (1268m3 capacity) Expanded Cargohold II Expanded Cargohold II Expanded Cargohold II Expanded Cargohold II [empty med slot] [empty med slot] [empty med slot] Miner II Miner II Miner II Miner II [empty high slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] Mining Drone II x5 Berserker I x3 -- And the berserkers are some nice protection OR [Osprey, Osprey Miner] 713m3 per cycle (1005m3) Expanded Cargohold II Expanded Cargohold II Expanded Cargohold II [empty med slot] [empty med slot] [empty med slot] [empty med slot] Miner II Miner II Miner II TE-2100 Standard Missile Bay, Sabretooth Light Missile [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] Mining Drone I x4 -- with only a single missle launcher for protection AND only 4 drones max NOTE: all of these figures are using the ALL LVL5 setting in EFT Also note that the vexor is slightly more durable than the osprey, but slightly less agile. Both have the same max speeds (160m/s with these load outs)
Regsamjor	Posted - 2008.08.13 08:53:00 - [13] Originally by: Armeria What I would mainly like to know is what attributes is most important to a miner. Does anyone have an answer for that. That doesn't involve reading a 64 page PDF. So I can atleast create my character? I question your choice of career path; if you don't have the patience to take the time to read a 64 page PDF or at least the forum Sticky. Mining & a career mining char is for patient players. Characteristics also include players that can set long term goals, study, and mental skills to compute the metrics for yield and basically self-educate themselves based on reading & research. If you do these things, mining can be very rewarding. I wish you luck!


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