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Lallante
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Posted - 2004.05.30 23:25:00 -
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This Thread is essentially a rant. That said, if you have read it, you probably wont do what I am ranting about.
Each day in the forums there are umpteen new posts complaining about:
-Not being able to raise from neg security -Getting ganked in empire and not being able to be 'escorted' -Having Ore Stolen -Frigs being able to mount Cruise missles making non-launcher frigs useless -It being impossible to hit a frig with 2 (or even 1) MWD orbitting at close range round a BS -Lasers being Crap -Empire Strip Mining -Cruisers being crappy
Etc Etc Etc.
Now if every person who started one of the above threads had instead just read the devblogs, CSMs and gone to dev meetings (or read the transcripts), then they would never have made the posts.
Every day there is a new slew of whines complaining about things that have had fixes already implemented on Chaos.
FFS before you waste more board space complaining about some aspect of the game mechanics, why not just read the devblogs and see if it has already been addressed or will be soon. 99/100 it will have been.
And while Im ranting, there have been several threads lately complaining that 'Chaos is too laggy/boring/restrictive, we cant fight properly'. Chaos is NOT a playground for people too stupid to get a BS ingame, it is to test new mechanics changes for balancing and bugs for the Developers.
Oh and another thing: People who go AFK for long periods on chaos (which has a user limit) should be summarily shot.
Ahhh now all that is out of the way, I feel much better
Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
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XpoHoc
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Posted - 2004.05.30 23:29:00 -
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Add 'Don't try to teach people anything' to your list, else I have to agree ;)
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Rthor
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Posted - 2004.05.30 23:31:00 -
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How about making a server just for the whiners, and maybe it would be a service where we could pay a nice sum of isk to deport whiners there so that we dont have to deal with them anymore.
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Deadflip2
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Posted - 2004.05.30 23:36:00 -
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each day...,
you wake up, have breakfast, start ur comp, play eve, goto work, play eve, eat, play eve, watch tv, sleep.... etc
if ya wanna take it to more details, you also brush your teeth every day, grab your car keys every day, press teh on button on your comp every day. etc.
when it comes downto things we humans are a rather boring race, we reflect that in our games...   --- "this song reminds me of the girl i met on a schooltrip, she was really nice, and she really liked me. I forgot to ask her her phone number" - Nelix trist OMG im a pretzel!!! |

Embrace Death
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Posted - 2004.05.31 00:16:00 -
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OMG..
MAYBE WE ARE COMPLAINING BECAUSE CCP PROMISES THESE CHANGES (AS YOU SAID IN YOUR POST) BUT HAVE YET TO CHANGE ANYTHING? HAVE YOU CHECKED THE TIMESTAMP ON THOSE PROMISES?
I'll give a thumbs up to CCP for their supposed fixing of the games missles mechanics and balancing(lousy kestrels), but I have yet to see that promise take effect.
For example, in my months of 0.0 PVP experience, FA, CA, IMM, F-E, ect. I have yet to see more than 1 laser user. Why? BECUASE LASERS STILL SUCK.
 ~_~ Index of "How to avoid any risk for Dummies" Chapter 1: Stay in Empire Chapter 2: Log off at safespot if threatened Chapter 3: Watch "players in space" and "local" Chapter 4: Switch corps if war is declared on yours Chapter 5: Equip 2 MWD and 5 warp core stableizers Chapter 6: So you still got destroyed? Things you can do. See chap. 7 "Forum trolling and maintaining your carebear image" |

Sylvania
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Posted - 2004.05.31 00:37:00 -
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Edited by: Sylvania on 31/05/2004 00:39:21 So... ur saying:
Originally by: Lallante
Now if every person who started one of the above threads had instead just read the devblogs, CSMs and gone to dev meetings (or read the transcripts), then they would never have made the posts.
Every day there is a new slew of whines complaining about things that have had fixes already implemented on Chaos.
and then u say this:
Originally by: Lallante
Oh and another thing: People who go AFK for long periods on chaos (which has a user limit) should be summarily shot.
/me wonders who has to "Turn on your Brain before posting " ??? 
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Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2004.05.31 00:39:00 -
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Yeah Lallante, please turn your Brain on!
"We brake for nobody"
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Kashre
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Posted - 2004.05.31 00:41:00 -
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OMG
MAYBE YOU DONT NEED TO START ANOTHER COMPLAINT THREAD ON THE SAME PAGE WITH 5 OTHER THREADS COMPLAINING ABOUT THE SAME THING WHEN THERE IS OBVIOUSLY ALREADY WORK BEING DONE ON THE ISSUES.
I think that's what lallante is getting at, despite how much I hate having to agree with her.
I mean really... who here has not yet learned to distrust time esitmates from the gaming community. I wish every developer in the world would stop using dates for anything, and just tell everyone "when its ready" the way they SHOULD from the beginning. +++
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Silverlancer
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Posted - 2004.05.31 00:42:00 -
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Originally by: Admiral IceBlock Yeah Lallante, please turn your Brain on!
Iceblock, I thought you didn't like smacktalk! She really has a point here, and you shouldn't be flaming her...
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Kooky Blonde
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Posted - 2004.05.31 00:49:00 -
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you better not me talking about me!!!!!!!!!!!! |

Nomi Asterrn
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Posted - 2004.05.31 00:50:00 -
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Put down the honey and watch the bees..
Theres a deep irony in this thread... Having siad that I think the only posts that are :Turn your brain on are the " Whats your fav Tv programme?"
The whining and the other stuff will never go...unless you want just dev blogs ...Ie info when Devs wanna give it...
To rant about the ranting is priceless ...
Ahhh now all that is out of the way, I feel much better
Maybe thats why people do what they do ..?
THE WEAK CAUSE MORE HARM THAN THE STRONG |

Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2004.05.31 01:00:00 -
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Originally by: Silverlancer
Originally by: Admiral IceBlock Yeah Lallante, please turn your Brain on!
Iceblock, I thought you didn't like smacktalk! She really has a point here, and you shouldn't be flaming her...
ahh, i remember when i got flamed my Lallente, im simply just returning the favour...
"We brake for nobody"
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Rthor
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Posted - 2004.05.31 01:20:00 -
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Yes whining about whining is ironic but so what.
I think the point is this.
Scenario: You turn on Eve and your corporate chat blinker goes off and you read this: -Lasers suck -Yeah -Yup -OMG do they suck! -Yeah if they dont fix them I am quitting. -Yeah we are all quiting this will show them. [And you have seen people use lasers well yourself.]
Then a couple of minutes later you read another such series of posts about something else. And you keep doing this. If you can take this repeatedly month after month then I just wish I had your patience. LOL.
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Lallante
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Posted - 2004.05.31 02:33:00 -
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yet again some of you still fail to understand:
I have nothing against complaints per se. I have a huge amount against complaints about things ALREADY FIXED on Chaos, or soon to be. All these things are massively doccumented in Devblogs, CSMs, and Meeting Minutes.
Case in point:
Quote: OMG..
MAYBE WE ARE COMPLAINING BECAUSE CCP PROMISES THESE CHANGES (AS YOU SAID IN YOUR POST) BUT HAVE YET TO CHANGE ANYTHING? HAVE YOU CHECKED THE TIMESTAMP ON THOSE PROMISES?
I'll give a thumbs up to CCP for their supposed fixing of the games missles mechanics and balancing(lousy kestrels), but I have yet to see that promise take effect.
For example, in my months of 0.0 PVP experience, FA, CA, IMM, F-E, ect. I have yet to see more than 1 laser user. Why? BECUASE LASERS STILL SUCK.
Quite apart from the fact that this person uses capitals for a whole paragraph thereby discrediting his arguement before I have even read it, If this player had spent as much time on Chaos, or reading the Chaos forums, or the devs posts on said forums, then he would know that of the list of 8 problems I used as examples, 7 are already at least partially fixed on chaos, and a fix for the last (Strip mining) is very much in the works.
Do you honestly think making another 100 threads on the problem will make them skip bug and balance testing and throw it on TQ right now? Are you not EXACTLY the same person who will turn around and critiscise CCP for releasing buggy code without due testing? thought so...
And Sylvania, where is the contradiction, I am not complaining about something the devs need to fix but already have planned to, Im suggestng violent action against those who irritate me. And Iceblock, I dont flame, I 'deconstruct with extreme prejudice'. (just like Im not camping, im using strategic stillness)
Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
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thebold
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Posted - 2004.06.01 10:55:00 -
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for once i actuly would agree to this post.
Amen. ==============================================
We do the Blowing up thingy |

Jadrut
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Posted - 2004.06.01 11:00:00 -
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Whining about whiners? hmm
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Juan Andalusian
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Posted - 2004.06.01 11:00:00 -
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Quote: -It being impossible to hit a frig with 2 (or even 1) MWD orbitting at close range round a BS
It's close to impossible for a BS to hit a frig orbiting at 50% it's default max speed already on TQ.
Just goes to show how well informed most of the people you mention are.
**Pain is meant to be felt** |

Orestes
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Posted - 2004.06.01 11:04:00 -
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Althoguh I agree with Lallante, I'm still locking this thread.
Complaining about people who complain isn't really constructive.
Still, I fully agree 
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