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Jin Chana	Posted - 2008.08.04 09:54:00 - [1] Hi all, I've been reading a lot about crowded mission hubs and the related problems. What I couldn't find is a list of those hubs, so I can avoid them when leveling up a corp to lvl4. Could someone please post a list of the most notorious hubs? Thanks, Jin
Zo5o Gallente Longcat is Long	Posted - 2008.08.04 09:56:00 - [2] Motsu/Aramachi Irjunen Dodixie/Auvergne Emolgranlan can get pretty crowded I'm sure there's more, those are off the top of my head.
Meylota LeFey Minmatar	Posted - 2008.08.04 11:31:00 - [3] Motsu Umokka Rens Frarn Emolgranlan Gulfonodi <-- might have misspelled that one Those are the ones I've seen. I've never been to Gallente or Amarr space so I don't know which ones are there.
Creche Gallente	Posted - 2008.08.04 11:44:00 - [4] Nothing comes close to constituting 'crowded' compared to Caldari space, but we have Oursalert, Cistuvaert, Alentene, etc all with 150+ in local as of today, about as busy as i have seen it lately; heaps of missions to ninja salvage :)
Emperor Ryan Amarr Imperial Syndicate Forces	Posted - 2008.08.04 14:20:00 - [5] Penigramn- 250
Jin Chana Caldari	Posted - 2008.08.04 14:42:00 - [6] Thanks to all, very helpful.
Vienna Gates Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2008.08.04 16:26:00 - [7] Nourvukaiken also has a lot of people now that caldari FW blobs use it has a run away system
Slanty McGarglefist	Posted - 2008.08.04 16:31:00 - [8] Youl is in the 80s usually, but the highest mission is Lev 2. __________________________________________________ Originally by: CCP Wrangler No Doh!
Aiko Intaki	Posted - 2008.08.04 17:05:00 - [9] Don't run any missions out of Jita, either. So: Alentene Aramachi Auvergne Cistuvaert Dodixie Emolgranlan Frarn Gulfonodi Irjunen Jita Motsu Oursalert Penigramn Rens Umokka Generally speaking, avoid running missions for any of the four main Navies or their Intelligence corporations if you want to avoid high population systems on reasonable quality L4 agents. Most people seem to gather about them (Aramachi is a high quality, high sec L4 agent for the Caldari Navy, for instance. Dodixie similarly has a high quality, high sec L4 agent for the Federation Navy.)
Jessica Darkke	Posted - 2008.08.05 04:40:00 - [10] For some reason no-one has mentioned the hell of all hells, Saila. I know technically the agent is in Motsu but for some reason the lag in Saila was always far worse.
syphurous Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2008.08.05 06:48:00 - [11] I see one thats been missed, was my old mission system before it became a hub. I wont mention it incase peopel might forget about it and I can go back. :( Most people will read this thinking it's part of my post, when its actually my sig :P
Veldya Caldari Guristari Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2008.08.05 08:14:00 - [12] Level 4 combat agents in 0.5 systems with a high agent quality, Caldari space heavier number of mission runners than other races. It is not that hard to do the research and scope out the regions.
Tchell Dahhn Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2008.08.05 15:57:00 - [13] /me laughs evilly, while scribbling frantically... "Thank you, OP!" We're Recruiting!
Pwett Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony	Posted - 2008.08.05 17:36:00 - [14] Originally by: Tchell Dahhn /me laughs evilly, while scribbling frantically... "Thank you, OP!" I was quite surprised people answered him as well _______________ Pwett CEO, Founder, & Executor <Q> QUANT Hegemony
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.08.05 19:13:00 - [15] Edited by: Akita T on 05/08/2008 19:14:49 F10 -> star / color systems by -> statistics faction/police ships killed in last 24h ; big blob = mission hub jumps in last 24h ; vivid color = crowded systems etc you'll get the hang of it soon enough _ THE APPRENTICE \|\| mineral balance \|\| nanofix
Thermis	Posted - 2008.08.05 19:18:00 - [16] Originally by: syphurous I see one thats been missed, was my old mission system before it became a hub. I wont mention it incase peopel might forget about it and I can go back. :( Fat chance syphurous, local is now peaking around 100, and the whole area seems to have filled with macros and farmers
squall321 Gallente Unity Of Legends	Posted - 2008.08.06 00:42:00 - [17] Yea, i use to mission in auvergne.. but as of today it became impossible to mission there so i packed up and left...im not revealing where to simply because i want it to stay as vacant as possible lol. But seriously...just open your star map and view availble agants.. off you go.. ---------
syphurous Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2008.08.06 01:47:00 - [18] My issue with places becoming hubs is my 350 - 400 ms to the server. It means I lag to begin with, a system with its own lag quickly makes it a serious problem. The agent quality system needs a rework, and the agents need to be shuffled around. I dont think there should ever be more than 1 lvl4 agent in the same station, I dont mind hopping from station when agents give me bum missions I want to turn down. Most people will read this thinking it's part of my post, when its actually my sig :P
Boz Well Minmatar	Posted - 2008.08.06 02:45:00 - [19] Originally by: Tchell Dahhn /me laughs evilly, while scribbling frantically... "Thank you, OP!" Should sticky for all the newer salvagemonkeys.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2008.08.06 04:41:00 - [20] Originally by: Akita T Edited by: Akita T on 05/08/2008 19:14:49 F10 -> star / color systems by -> statistics faction/police ships killed in last 24h ; big blob = mission hub jumps in last 24h ; vivid color = crowded systems etc you'll get the hang of it soon enough but I can just ask questions on the forum and someone will answer!!!!
Babel Utopian Research I.E.L. The ENTITY.	Posted - 2008.08.06 10:49:00 - [21] Originally by: Pwett Originally by: Tchell Dahhn /me laughs evilly, while scribbling frantically... "Thank you, OP!" I was quite surprised people answered him as well Me too :) is off to find out whether the word 'gullible' really has been take out of the dictionary ------- "Out of the good of evil born, Came Uriel's voice of cherub scorn"
Torin Corax Minmatar Dark Nova Crisis Chain of Chaos	Posted - 2008.08.06 14:41:00 - [22] Originally by: Tchell Dahhn /me laughs evilly, while scribbling frantically... "Thank you, OP!" You're not the only one :) Somehow I was expecting you the second I read the OP.
Tchell Dahhn Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2008.08.06 14:48:00 - [23] Originally by: Torin Corax You're not the only one :) Somehow I was expecting you the second I read the OP. I'm surprised it took me a day to find that thread. (We have the intel posted on our forum, now, for all of our Members to read.) We're Recruiting!
Dzajic Gallente Federal Defence Union	Posted - 2008.08.06 15:31:00 - [24] Looking at last two dev blogs... You salvage ninjas better hurry, I see a dev blog named "salvage, whose property is it" coming soon.
Tchell Dahhn Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2008.08.06 15:36:00 - [25] Originally by: Dzajic Looking at last two dev blogs... You salvage ninjas better hurry, I see a dev blog named "salvage, whose property is it" coming soon. I refer you to the sticky at the top of this forum: Originally by: GM Ytterbium Players are still completely free to salvage other pilot wrecks at will, no matter if they belong to the same corporation or not and doing so is not considered as an exploit. I don't expect this to be an issue anytime soon. I regularly read the blogs, and the CSM forums, for any hint that some Carebear is looking to take away my rights. We're Recruiting!
Meylota LeFey Minmatar	Posted - 2008.08.07 09:09:00 - [26] Originally by: Tchell Dahhn Originally by: Torin Corax You're not the only one :) Somehow I was expecting you the second I read the OP. I'm surprised it took me a day to find that thread. (We have the intel posted on our forum, now, for all of our Members to read.) Considering I've seen members "Yoink" active in all the mission hubs I mentioned in my prior post, I can't imagine you didn't already have this info -- especially as I'd heard of all these hubs less than 2 weeks after I started playing and I never was looking for info like it -- it's simply out here on the forums. Granted, those threads were more along the lines of "where are the laggy mission hubs so I can avoid them" but the end result is the same. I think it's funny that it's only now that y'all are making a big deal about "Oh look! Places to go salvage!" when those other thread tended to also mention that becuz they're hubs that the number of people scanning out runners in order to salvage is higher. Of course, I don't think you'd put together your corp yet then either. Maybe that's the difference ;)
Morphisat Rakeriku Otaku Invasion	Posted - 2008.08.07 12:33:00 - [27] The problem is I think, that the amount of agents and systems is still based on the number of subscribers from a few years back. We really need more good Lvl 4 quality to give people more options, so not everybody flocks to the very same systems.
Sanzorz Amarr EVEfan.dk	Posted - 2008.08.07 13:35:00 - [28] Originally by: Morphisat The problem is I think, that the amount of agents and systems is still based on the number of subscribers from a few years back. We really need more good Lvl 4 quality to give people more options, so not everybody flocks to the very same systems. Indeed. A year ago or so there was hardly anyone around Amarr in Domain doing missions. Now it's a crowded shopping Mall area :S
Zeerover Caldari DeadSpace Exploration and Investigations	Posted - 2008.08.07 13:53:00 - [29] Edited by: Zeerover on 07/08/2008 13:54:52 Gekutami is fast becoming the new Motsu. With it's Hyasyoda Lvl4 Q18 combat agent, Ice fields and only 7 jumps to Jita. Lag there rose by quite a bit over the summer, so much so that I had to say goodbye to my 10.0 standing Agent. Station rent went up from around 3 million isk several months back to ~11 mill in june to 23 mill in july. Odd part is that there are mostly just 80-90 people in system, but if you go by the map you'll often see days with over 30000 npc ships destroyed in system.

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