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Macareus
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Posted - 2008.08.04 16:48:00 -
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Right now I have one pvp character who is training for deimos/ishtar but currently flying a myrmidon. What do you think would complement that best for solo (2 character) gatecamping? I was thinking something Amarr so they could drone rep each other. Of course I'm not looking for the "best ship in EVE" just suggestions for a specific purpose.
Is it worth also training a character just to sit in system cloaked and provide gang bonuses?
Thoughts?
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Karentaki
Gallente Maximum Yarrage
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Posted - 2008.08.04 16:49:00 -
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lol falcon...
EVERYONE has a Falcon alt nowadays However, now you are just reading my signature... Or are you...
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Spaztick
Canadian Imperial Armaments EVESpace
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Posted - 2008.08.04 16:54:00 -
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Falcon. But seriously, more people should have some type of spacer in their sigs to show it's not part of the post. |

Corstaad
Minmatar Vardr ok Lidskjalv Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2008.08.04 16:56:00 -
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With two accounts you get twice the lossmails.
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Berendas
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Posted - 2008.08.04 17:02:00 -
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I wouldn't suggest getting a Falcon alt actually, with how OP (imo and many others') they are by the time your alt trains to use them they will probably be rebalanced or nerfed.
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Modrak Vseth
Veto.
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Posted - 2008.08.04 17:10:00 -
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Originally by: Macareus Right now I have one pvp character who is training for deimos/ishtar but currently flying a myrmidon. What do you think would complement that best for solo (2 character) gatecamping? I was thinking something Amarr so they could drone rep each other. Of course I'm not looking for the "best ship in EVE" just suggestions for a specific purpose.
Is it worth also training a character just to sit in system cloaked and provide gang bonuses?
Thoughts?
1. Solo gatecamping is a recipe for disaster, even if there's "two" of you. 2. Gate camping and depending on drones for anything is same recipe. Sentries will kill your drones. 3. Falcon (or Blackbird until it has the skills for Falcon).
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Syringe
Morphine Inc
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Posted - 2008.08.04 17:28:00 -
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Deimos and ishtar are two entirely different balls of wax. Figure out which one you wanna fly and learn how to fly it (not just skills - learn the ships strengths, limitations, abilities etc.).
Deimos will not last against gate guns. A plated ishtar might - but probably not against gate guns and an enemy combatant.
If you're looking for a good PvP duo, train your other toon to fly covops probers and get off the gates. --------- War isn't the answer. However, the objective isn't to provide answers rather than eliminate the question. |

kessah
Suicidal Tendencies Ltd
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Posted - 2008.08.04 17:45:00 -
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Buzzard 
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Wind Ictiva
Delta Kappa Gamma
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Posted - 2008.08.04 17:52:00 -
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have to agree, 2nd account should be a jammer. since you have to tank sentries, iŠd go for a scorpion. if not jammer then a minnie webber, but the recons will have a hard time to tank the sentries i guess (i havent done any of this btw).
but the idea of "solo" camping a gate doesnt sound too good of an idea.
Originally by: Admiral Love
Hmm creating a thread like this is perhaps a little like sitting naked with bleeding balls in a pool of piranhas. I Won't do it again - most of you guys are pretty nasty
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Macareus
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Posted - 2008.08.04 18:35:00 -
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EDIT: solo gatecamping probably would be a disaster like you said, so I changed the idea for my alt's purpose.
I agree training falcon FOTM is probably ill advised. Amarr have been waiting years for a buff, but you never know... What do they have now that would make a decent matchup?
Deimos I thought was a glass cannon. Ishtar is maybe more balanced? Also I guess you don't have to worry about jamming and can kill at range (even without nanos).
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EnslaverOfMinmatar
Yarsk Hunters DeaDSpace Coalition
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Posted - 2008.08.04 19:59:00 -
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only if u have 2 PCs to run those 2 accounts. 2 clients running on 1 crash in about an hour.. every ****ing time.
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00svn
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.08.04 20:09:00 -
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Originally by: EnslaverOfMinmatar only if u have 2 PCs to run those 2 accounts. 2 clients running on 1 crash in about an hour.. every ****ing time.
I've been running 2 on my PC for a couple of weeks no problems. Even had 3 up for awhile one day to change my bro's training and didn't even slow down.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.08.04 20:23:00 -
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Originally by: EnslaverOfMinmatar only if u have 2 PCs to run those 2 accounts. 2 clients running on 1 crash in about an hour.. every ****ing time.
time to buy a new comp
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The Djego
Minmatar merovinger inc
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Posted - 2008.08.04 20:24:00 -
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Dooing solo PVP wiht 2 Accounts at the same time is a clear fail in catching the theme of Solo PVP. 
On the other hand, Falcon is quite nice, you canŠt realy do solo PVP without them anymore(as a simple counter against other Falcons). 
Think for your kind of Job Amarr will be fine, since Abaddon is great for station/gate camping because of the big HP buffer. ---- Nerf Tank - Boost Gank!
Originally by: Amantus Real men don't need to get into blaster range.
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AnarkiTheStorm
Finis Lumen
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Posted - 2008.08.04 20:29:00 -
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mega and mega....
i mean errrr
falcon? --- Rararar.... |

Kirex
Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2008.08.04 20:41:00 -
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Originally by: Macareus Amarr have been waiting years for a buff, but you never know... What do they have now that would make a decent matchup?
what? The resistance changes was a huge buff. If you want to go Amarr, get an Abaddon.
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kessah
Suicidal Tendencies Ltd
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Posted - 2008.08.04 20:49:00 -
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ooo i got a better one, a alt in a Blockade runner.
Bring u spare 800's and drones and gets aggression from teh evil pirates!!1 
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Ambrosious Martin
Son of Man
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Posted - 2008.08.04 21:26:00 -
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Originally by: Modrak Vseth
Originally by: Macareus Right now I have one pvp character who is training for deimos/ishtar but currently flying a myrmidon. What do you think would complement that best for solo (2 character) gatecamping? I was thinking something Amarr so they could drone rep each other. Of course I'm not looking for the "best ship in EVE" just suggestions for a specific purpose.
Is it worth also training a character just to sit in system cloaked and provide gang bonuses?
Thoughts?
1. Solo gatecamping is a recipe for disaster, even if there's "two" of you. 2. Gate camping and depending on drones for anything is same recipe. Sentries will kill your drones. 3. Falcon (or Blackbird until it has the skills for Falcon).
Learn to read. The OP said he wanted his duo to be used for empire wardecs on mining corps.
Now to to answer the OP... the myrm is a great ship still, and if your looking for a great pair to go with it I would suggest something like a ruppy or a vexor, my reasoning is that you'll want something to dish out DPS while you use the myrm as bait or support... the mrym can field 75m3 of drones but also has 6 unbonused high slots for reppers and energy transfers, use egress rigs and talismins on the myrm pilot. You may also want to go for something like the curse on your alt.
Either way you look at it theres lots of synergies you can use haveing 2 ships that you are piloting.
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Avan Sercedos
The Magnificents
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Posted - 2008.08.04 21:38:00 -
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Originally by: Ambrosious Martin Learn to read. The OP said he wanted his duo to be used for empire wardecs on mining corps.
Learn to read the quotes in your own damn post. Modrak wrote that before an edit.
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doctorstupid2
The Accursed
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Posted - 2008.08.04 22:14:00 -
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Edited by: doctorstupid2 on 04/08/2008 22:14:03 Covops.
Find targets without showing your hand, bust missions, watch your back, gang bonuses when solo, etc.
Falcons are for failures.
Abusive | Deadspace | Deadspace2 |
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doctorstupid2
The Accursed
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Posted - 2008.08.04 22:15:00 -
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Originally by: The Djego On the other hand, Falcon is quite nice, you canŠt realy do solo PVP without them anymore(as a simple counter against other Falcons). 
Where do you people come up with this shit?
Abusive | Deadspace | Deadspace2 |

whisk
The Movement
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Posted - 2008.08.04 22:30:00 -
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2xrooks?:D
Adapt or Die
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mentalmonkey
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2008.08.04 22:48:00 -
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2 X Neut / RR Domis.
[HIGHS] RR / heavey Neut II [MEDS] MWD / web / point / cap boost / sensor boost / ECCM [LOWS] Plate / resists / rep / ????
Pretty safe with that although may have to watch drones, should be quite easy to escape small gangs, align, neut tacklers (neut IIs got longer range than T2 distruptors), warp.
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Modrak Vseth
Veto.
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Posted - 2008.08.05 02:45:00 -
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Originally by: Ambrosious Martin
Originally by: Modrak Vseth
Originally by: Macareus Right now I have one pvp character who is training for deimos/ishtar but currently flying a myrmidon. What do you think would complement that best for solo (2 character) gatecamping? I was thinking something Amarr so they could drone rep each other. Of course I'm not looking for the "best ship in EVE" just suggestions for a specific purpose.
Is it worth also training a character just to sit in system cloaked and provide gang bonuses?
Thoughts?
1. Solo gatecamping is a recipe for disaster, even if there's "two" of you. 2. Gate camping and depending on drones for anything is same recipe. Sentries will kill your drones. 3. Falcon (or Blackbird until it has the skills for Falcon).
Learn to read. The OP said he wanted his duo to be used for empire wardecs on mining corps.
Now to to answer the OP... the myrm is a great ship still, and if your looking for a great pair to go with it I would suggest something like a ruppy or a vexor, my reasoning is that you'll want something to dish out DPS while you use the myrm as bait or support... the mrym can field 75m3 of drones but also has 6 unbonused high slots for reppers and energy transfers, use egress rigs and talismins on the myrm pilot. You may also want to go for something like the curse on your alt.
Either way you look at it theres lots of synergies you can use haveing 2 ships that you are piloting.
Read the quote... 
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Omae Gaw'd
Gallente VMF-214 Blacksheep
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Posted - 2008.08.05 04:19:00 -
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solo pvp duo ? This one is funny.
More seriously, find what works best for you or what you like best as everyone will have different opinions. There's no shame in trying out of the box combos. If you're looking for efficiency, go for the covy alt. If you don't mind being called a spineless basterd with a mangina, get him in a falc. But all you need is a scout really.
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Gruxella
Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2008.08.05 06:44:00 -
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dang so my using 3 characters to pvp is not solo!
*cries* ---- VHI - We Haul Your Cargo For Free ---- We Miss you Red 7. |

PaRaZiTuRL
Amarr IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.08.05 10:21:00 -
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Originally by: Macareus good solo pvp duo?
This phrase is like... getting the troll out of me and yelling i need moar cowbell.
Inappropriate signature removed. ~WeatherMan |

Riho
Gallente Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2008.08.05 10:41:00 -
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Originally by: Corstaad With two accounts you get twice the lossmails.
this :P
i usually have one in a combat ship of any kind and another in cov op. ---------------------------------- Fighting for Minmatar o7 Yes... this is my main. Extreme Troll Slayer...
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Acedias
Atropos Asylum
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Posted - 2008.08.05 10:43:00 -
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I'd vote Heavy dictor and cloaky hauler scout alt. Or cloaky ishtar scout alt. Sit nicely 200km off the other side of the gate aligned for it.. etc.
Fun ensues=)
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joshmorris
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Posted - 2008.08.05 11:11:00 -
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Edited by: joshmorris on 05/08/2008 11:11:34
Originally by: mentalmonkey 2 X Neut / RR Domis.
[HIGHS] RR / heavey Neut II [MEDS] MWD / web / point / cap boost / sensor boost / ECCM [LOWS] Plate / resists / rep / ????
Pretty safe with that although may have to watch drones, should be quite easy to escape small gangs, align, neut tacklers (neut IIs got longer range than T2 distruptors), warp.
Then 1 falcon comes along and jams you both anyway and keeps tacklers alive.
Lets face it, falcon is the best choice just because it always can jam to gtfo ... you will always win if your against 1 target just because it will be perma jammed ( IF its got something like 2 eccm you will still get a jam in every other cycle). And if there are 2-3 enemy's you will jam 2 of them perma and the 3rd on and off.
Oh and with the speed "balance" falcons will be extremely hard to get to and catch.
(oh and a good scout)
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Krij
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Posted - 2008.08.05 12:19:00 -
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Join a merc corp and use your alt as target scout?
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Zena Autumn
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Posted - 2008.08.05 14:57:00 -
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If you dont have to worry about sentries:
Gal Recon + Any Damage Ship, preferably with a web
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Grandis Fustis
Destry's Lounge
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Posted - 2008.08.05 15:30:00 -
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falcon for sure can scout drop probes jam over 150km(out of range of sentry guns) and its tough to fight with 2 accounts especialy when ones a falcon which needs full attention. But you are war decing in high sec so maybe basilisk or osprey and a dps ship with high resists
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K1RTH G3RS3N
Hanzai Soshiki The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2008.08.08 11:56:00 -
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Originally by: Macareus Edited by: Macareus on 04/08/2008 18:32:29 Right now I have one pvp character who is training for deimos/ishtar but currently flying a myrmidon.
What do you think would complement that best for empire wardecs on small noob mining corps.
I was thinking something Amarr so they could drone rep each other. Of course I'm not looking for the "best ship in EVE" just suggestions for a specific purpose.
Is it worth also training a character just to sit in system cloaked and provide gang bonuses?
Thoughts?
EDIT, new purpose
probing damp arazu
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MirrorGod
Heretic Militia
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Posted - 2008.08.08 12:05:00 -
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I used to solo w/ a harbinger and covert ops alt scout in kor-azor, worked for me. Self-scout is very very nice. Falcon is just that +10 (ECM); saves you from blobs and is the new WCS. I have more fun solo with a nano-zealot, especially now that I have many, many, many targets available where sentries would usually prevent it, because of FW.
Garmon answer: -two- ruptures. 
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Feilamya
Minmatar Pelennor Swarm Souls of Vengeance
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Posted - 2008.08.08 20:23:00 -
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Edited by: Feilamya on 08/08/2008 20:23:19 nano rupture + blakcbird.
sit at a planet with your nano rupture, then wait until someone comes and pops it. then send in the blackbird, jam the target for a few cycles and run away.
not very effective, but I've seen ppl do it.
replace the cruisers by their t2 variants if u feel 1337 enuff
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Taram Caldar
Noir. Trinity Nova Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.08 23:03:00 -
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Originally by: EnslaverOfMinmatar only if u have 2 PCs to run those 2 accounts. 2 clients running on 1 crash in about an hour.. every ****ing time.
Odd... I often run a 2nd account on my pc w/o any issue. For far longer than an hour. In fact... I don't think EVE has ever crashed for me because of it. Make sure you are using separate EVE Folders for the 2 accounts and set your cache properly in the EVE client as well as toning graphics/sound/effects down on both clients (I turn sound completely OFF on the alt). .
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Gneeznow
Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.08.08 23:14:00 -
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cyclone and basilisk or guardian, spooge cap all over the cyclone with them, and have the cyclone perma boosting with a XL booster, comedy gatecamp busting will ensue
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Terra Mikael
NightCrew
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Posted - 2008.08.09 19:03:00 -
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go with the second idea. You could get 10% to speed and tank in no time, and thats not even counting the warfare modules if your alts in a command ship...
Originally by: VicturusTeSaluto All piracy is built upon honoring one's word.
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Orogaldeo
Amarr Star Horizons Rule of Three
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Posted - 2008.08.09 19:13:00 -
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Falcon..AND Arazu. ________________________________
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Orar Ironfist
Digital assassins
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Posted - 2008.08.09 20:13:00 -
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"ima solo with 2 characters!!!!!.....wait.......shit..."
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Emir Sarikusa
Amarr Malevolent Emo Herders
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Posted - 2008.08.10 04:18:00 -
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Originally by: EnslaverOfMinmatar only if u have 2 PCs to run those 2 accounts. 2 clients running on 1 crash in about an hour.. every ****ing time.
Not true, I can run several accounts at the same time, watch a movie, burn a DVD and whatever else all at the same time. The old EVE used to have nasty memory leaks but the recent builds are rock solid.
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Pegleg Punk
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.08.10 08:04:00 -
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Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton
Originally by: EnslaverOfMinmatar only if u have 2 PCs to run those 2 accounts. 2 clients running on 1 crash in about an hour.. every ****ing time.
time to buy a new comp
Not necessarily, sir. I experienced this very frustrating issue with my very new computer. I worked around this issue by playing both of my accounts in window'd mode. Now, Pegleg is free to run amok in hi-sec while my other character does his other things in that other sec. Since I started playing in window mode, I have not had one crash, disconnection from server, freeze up, etc.
Best of luck!
Originally by: Naga Saddow [16:38:06] "i must admit for an ahole ur pretty funny"
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Phenomena X
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Posted - 2008.08.10 15:09:00 -
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Edited by: Phenomena X on 10/08/2008 15:09:39 This is what I'm training for! 
Linkage
Edit: fail at linking 
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Euriti
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.08.10 18:56:00 -
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Falcon
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Torp raven/Pulse geddon.
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William DeMeo
Gallente Holy Church Of Garmonism
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Posted - 2008.08.11 00:49:00 -
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2x falcon. Two falcons can't lose. Yarr |

Faekurias
Black Legion Command
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Posted - 2008.08.11 10:00:00 -
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Originally by: William DeMeo 2x falcon. Two falcons can't lose.
Was just about to post this myself.  We are recruiting.
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StainLessStealRat
Firman AB 101010 Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.11 11:55:00 -
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Edited by: StainLessStealRat on 11/08/2008 11:58:46 Combo i would like is HIC and Rook/Falcon not huge on Dps but could bring tears to the eye's of anything smaller than a BC main problem would be them getting back to jump range of gate but you will be surprised how often peope keep spamming the warp button while scrammed.
combo i do fly ATM for duel account 0.0 gate camps is Hyena and stealth bomber. hyena locks them inplace and can atm speed tank well then if i think target is do able uncloak SB and F1-F3 ( i live in an area with very good intel so i usually know of any incomming threats a couple of jumps out)
IMHO 2x falcons are useless due to the hard time you will have tackling anything as this puts you in drone and FoF range (not the place to be in a falcon) plus the DPS is..... well what DPS
for miner corp war decs i would go with an out of corp altfresh out of the box in a bantam or similar frigate for a scout so he blends in to the miner crowd and for your main does not really matter if its miners you will be fighting but the duel domis would be nice and cheap and not so skill intensive or expensive as many other combo's and will play havoc with the PvE fits they will most likely undock
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Sir Atkinson
Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2008.08.11 12:47:00 -
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Vindicator and Machariel
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Anhammerad
Nearly Feared
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Posted - 2008.08.11 15:28:00 -
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Neutron B'thron/Falcon
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Grann Thefauto
Minmatar Running with Knives
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Posted - 2008.08.11 16:55:00 -
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Try a Rapier/Arazu. Great combination. Won't be able tank sentries, but for empire war decs you're golden.
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Cally Pitt
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Posted - 2008.08.11 22:57:00 -
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Originally by: Macareus Edited by: Macareus on 04/08/2008 18:32:29 Right now I have one pvp character who is training for deimos/ishtar but currently flying a myrmidon.
What do you think would complement that best for empire wardecs on small noob mining corps.
I was thinking something Amarr so they could drone rep each other. Of course I'm not looking for the "best ship in EVE" just suggestions for a specific purpose.
Is it worth also training a character just to sit in system cloaked and provide gang bonuses?
Thoughts?
EDIT, new purpose
how can you have a solo pvp duo......oh yea you cant...
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