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Fahtim Meidires Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.08.09 16:13:00 - [1] Edited by: Fahtim Meidires on 09/08/2008 16:13:32 Originally by: Mr Friendly I'm confused. Jade is being criticized for advancing his agenda (shock! horror! surprise!), yet two Goon CSMs aren't being criticized for not aggressively advancing their agendas. 'Squeaky wheel gets the oil' etc. Isn't the job of the CSM to advocate their position? Maybe the posters in this thread should be demanding the CSMs who represent their positions to push for their agendas? I guess you could keep deriding people who are obviously dedicated to seeing their vision realized instead of fighting for your positions, then whine after it's too late to block changes you don't like --- like you're doing now. You're missing a key point. In some of these issues, the status quo is the desired outcome by some delegates (the opinion that nothing needs to be changed in that particular area), and arguing against new ideas that they disagree with is fighting for your position.
Fahtim Meidires Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.08.09 20:56:00 - [2] Originally by: Toman Jerich Originally by: Fahtim Meidires Also are we going to see other 0.0 proposals from more delegates? If you have in mind an idea you like, just post it in the assembly hall on a non-goonswarm alt. Jade will make sure it gets on the agenda. Time to make a posting alt. WindPipeJammer?
Fahtim Meidires Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.08.10 19:47:00 - [3] Originally by: Detlev Cree Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto [Yes, fix the lag. We know, CCP knows, and by now most Tibetan monks probably know. What makes you think CCP know? The only quote I've seen from CCP on fleet battle issues comes from further up this thread as follows: "Nathan (CCP) said that he does not believe that current large-scale fleet combat is interesting for the participants, mainly due to focus fire." That comment didn't come from someone who has experienced fleet battle's current issues. Ism't it worth discussing this explicitly with CCP rather than just saying 'yes yes, of course everyone knows about that' ? They know about lag. You don't need to tell them about lag at all.
Fahtim Meidires Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.08.10 20:01:00 - [4] Originally by: Detlev Cree Is there a problem with putting it on the issues list? It isn't there currently Is there a problem with discussing it in the CSM meeting? Surely it would be worthwhile. I wouldn't be opposed to knowing exactly what they are doing to improve performance.
Fahtim Meidires Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.08.11 23:39:00 - [5] Originally by: RuleoftheBone Originally by: Jade Constantine CCP ask CSM to help them come up with proposals to reform sovereignty warfare in 0.0 Originally by: CCP Wrangler ....and CCP asked the CSM and the players to come up with concrete suggestions how to improve 0.0 warfare and sovereignty. Enough said really. CSM and the players CSM and the players CSM and the players You forgot something when you made the highlighted post. Everyone else . The majority of the idea were originally proposed by :everyone else: and the CSM gave their support or didn't. It's not Jade's fault that he's sponsoring all of them.
Fahtim Meidires Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.08.13 04:32:00 - [6] Originally by: Gonada all I'd like to know is wtf are Goons doing as CSM's? Probably because they were voted in. Quote: nothing like having the ultimate carebear, gonna have to elaborate there ... Quote: lying, exploiting, condoned by EVE ... Quote: cheating, but follow the EULA ... Quote: corp having a say in the future of the game. I guess the largest corp brings in a little bit of game experience. But its OK. You're the first person to point this out. The very first one. You should bring more topics like this into the spotlight.
Fahtim Meidires Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.08.15 17:20:00 - [7] Originally by: Empire Runner I'd like an update from CCP about the state of industry in EVE. Rorqual - Is it filling the niche CCP wants ? Orca - Status Report ? Mining - Is mining (in its current incarnation) what CCP wants, if not how are they going to change it. A general a roadmap for where they see Industry going. Its a big part of EVE, and its getting neglected. (Quarterly Economics Blogs?) Isn't the next expansion about industry?

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