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Max CAOD Caldari MAX INTEL Corporation	Posted - 2008.08.06 03:22:00 - [91] Lagg was very varying, it took me a looooong time to enter system, like 15-20min to load grid and then I crashed, couldn't log back in for quite a while but when I got back online (main fight still raging on) I had around 1 second lag, no more. Your reporter of the BOB's progress in the MAX campaign and of the
Max CAOD Caldari MAX INTEL Corporation	Posted - 2008.08.06 03:23:00 - [92] Originally by: Gamesguy Originally by: Max CAOD Very fun fight. I can confirm that 3 NC mothership was killed.. basicly because of a ****up, unsure what this was but it had to do with something with POS password was given wrong and they could not enter the forcefield to begin with but more about that when(if?) the info hits the surface. BOB (that's bob+pets/allies/friends/family) lost around 2 naglfar's, 2 revelations, 2 moros. Atleast. NC lost 3 Moms and a few carriers and some dreads. BOB lost almost all of it's support fleet and NC a lot too. BOB held the field. AWESOME fight. GF to all bobbits and northern nappers <3 Where do you get your info? By looking at kbs and the NC rumorville? The MS killed were nowhere near the pos shields, they were stuck on other carriers as everyone ran for the pos shields when it became clear they had lost. All our losses are posted, but a lot of our kills are not posted. We probably wont have a complete picture till tomorrow. This info was from NC, did not hear why but they were complaining about it but couldn't say what, the NC cap fleet were 10-15k above the POS forcefield if not more. Your reporter of the BOB's progress in the MAX campaign and of the
Farham Titan Industries Technology Team	Posted - 2008.08.06 03:27:00 - [93] Big ships are meant to explode and dreads make the world go round. Though this does give a clear indicator of why NC should skip defense and go on the offense in GBC space. Knowing BOB will just hit one system at a time and be ready for you with system defenders load advantage time and again, it is only a matter of time anyway. Why hang around with a bunch of boobs when you can play with a nice set of TITTS? Titan Industries Technology Team
Tnilf Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.08.06 03:29:00 - [94] Originally by: Traderjohn Edited by: Traderjohn on 06/08/2008 02:27:34 GF bob and friends. Lag was extreme on both sides to say the least. between 25-30 min mod lag. I believe the fight duration was close to 3 hours. So not to bad. However fight was fun. If anyone had moticed. We actually killed all of the hics and dictors. So therefore the only ready we were unable to jump out was because of lag. People could not click on the jump point even know they were broadcasted. However, bob showed the ability to ping everyone on IRC in order to bring them online and bob kept putting more and more caps onto the field. So respect for doing that. As i said, GF to all who participated and see you in the future TJ Why are you ****ing around w/ BS's when caps are destroying your fleet?
Aaron Mirrorsaver Warped Mining	Posted - 2008.08.06 03:32:00 - [95] Originally by: Farham Big ships are meant to explode and dreads make the world go round. Though this does give a clear indicator of why NC should skip defense and go on the offense in GBC space. Knowing BOB will just hit one system at a time and be ready for you with system defenders load advantage time and again, it is only a matter of time anyway. thought we warped into them at their pos...but anyway...how is that load system advantage.....really farman C.E.O. Go Hard, or go Home.
slip66 Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.06 03:37:00 - [96] Originally by: Aaron Mirrorsaver Originally by: Farham Big ships are meant to explode and dreads make the world go round. Though this does give a clear indicator of why NC should skip defense and go on the offense in GBC space. Knowing BOB will just hit one system at a time and be ready for you with system defenders load advantage time and again, it is only a matter of time anyway. thought we warped into them at their pos...but anyway...how is that load system advantage.....really farman it went down about as fair as it could have. Both fleets loaded grid prior to cap engagement.
Viper ShizzIe The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.08.06 03:45:00 - [97] Originally by: Mia Archer Waaaaaaaaa I lost my shit fit dread and my alliance isn't replacing it. Oh god the tears, the ****ing tears are so good in this thread.
Gamesguy Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.06 03:51:00 - [98] Originally by: Mia Archer This wasnt even lag... it was basicaly totaly non functional user interface i couldnt even open menus or select modules or anythign the client wouldnt even respond to the mouse lol cynos didnt even show up as avaialble to jump to till 10 minutes after they were down, the fact that CCP is not held accountable for these issues is rediculous. Yes both sides have to deal with it yes everyoen lags like hell but thats not the point. The point is both of us are paying for this game and CCP is charging us for shit thats nto playable and giving us nothing in the way of improvements other than vague "we will fix it "soon" comments. I dont mind losing ships, and i dont expect fights to be lag free but i do expect that we should beable to put a few hundred people together on a field and shoot each other without 30 minute module activation Ya well it took my fighters an hour(literally) to engage a target, so its hardly as if you're the only one affected. Both fleets loaded grid before engaging, except our carriers had fighters that wouldnt follow.
KNIGHT STAR Amarr Destructive Influence	Posted - 2008.08.06 03:51:00 - [99] looking forward to loading grid any minute now...
Jesse Jamess Caldari Red Tides	Posted - 2008.08.06 04:00:00 - [100] Originally by: MonwrathDisortium I loaded back in station, lag was the worst I have ever seen it. Thats cause your not "technically" bob... when you join bob you get a t2 connection to the eve server cluster.....

Crudamus Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.06 04:13:00 - [101] NC came in to try and save the cyno jammer pos with capitals and support all in system. We got support in system with little problems, caps cynoed in with little problems. GBC calls to arms, brings in about 70ish capitals to start with, NC with 50ish. Bob comes in on a gride load. Warps dreads and carriers within fighting rang of our caps well their moms sit back a couple hundred out. We then go toe to toe for some time, much lag. Most of us on both sides would lock and then sit and watch the target sit at 90% shields. Then fianly target would take damage and go down. NC started pulling away with positive kill to lose ratio. With the continued resuplyed GBC and FCing they where able to pull it back together. The lag first off seemned to be managable for us, when we tryed to withdrawl our clients where locked up, thats where we took loss. Even though our supers where not tackled, we could not open the jump to member screens. Just one of those things. Great fun on both sides was had, thanks to all the great pilots who put their assets on the line.
Mia Archer Amarr Insidious Existence RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.06 04:17:00 - [102] Originally by: Viper **zIe Originally by: Mia Archer Waaaaaaaaa I lost my shit fit dread and my alliance isn't replacing it. Oh god the tears, the **ing tears are so good in this thread. If i cared about losing it I wouldn't use it, face it dreads are the battleships of 2008 their loss is a minimal financial burden and they aren't worth fitting anything better than Tech 2 with a scattering of faction. However a few points: A) I already have a new one B) Its fitted the way razor wants it fitted, not how id personally fit it. C) better fittings wouldn't have done anything except give bob better loot D) At least it didn't die to my own pos My posts have nothing to do with losing a ship or even losing the fight, I accept that both are possibilities every time i join a gang and jump a cap into combat. I'm more bothered by the people who seem to think its perfectly fine that CCP has done very little to support the capital and battleship blobbage they have created. The basic fact is CCP dont care about 0.0, its been clearly shown that the largest number of their subscriptions dont live in it, and the alliances are too busy chest beating over each victory of a fight that could have been at much more epic than they are to hold ccp accountable. I don't pay $14 a month for my subscriptions to have halfassed fights. I pay for fights where both sides can react and move as the situation demands not where the FC calls a target and hopefully more of your side can target the primary than the other side can because your lagging less than them. ____________________________________________**
Aaron Mirrorsaver Warped Mining	Posted - 2008.08.06 04:22:00 - [103] how are we going to make them fix it? put them on trial. dont you think if the solution was easy that they would? C.E.O. Go Hard, or go Home.
SpaceSavage Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.08.06 04:29:00 - [104] From my point of view... It was a fun fight, was deffinately laggy, primarys ended up going down after the secondarys, etc etc, dreads that had not been called primary some how entered structure! I think in total it was 16 kills, 5/6 losses. 3 MS included in those kills. Annoyingly it took forever for fighters to respond, as someone said it was a matter of sitting back, relaxing and hoping something responds, i'd say there was easily 15 minutes of lag. Naglafars seemed to die on both sides pretty quickly, poor sods. Strangely NC caps were cyno'n out through the entire fight, which god only knows why, im sure it didnt help anyway. Hehe dont know who the sneaky bugger was, but i ended up having half my fighters back in my hold with armour and struc damage, luckly i lost only one! But.. Perhaps the strangest thing, was the fact that NC lost about 5 capitals, which were bouncing off the POS shield, bit of a miscomunication here cos them a few cap. _______________
raidnkill Violent Fury	Posted - 2008.08.06 04:35:00 - [105] Originally by: Crudamus NC came in to try and save the cyno jammer pos with capitals and support all in system. We got support in system with little problems, caps cynoed in with little problems. GBC calls to arms, brings in about 70ish capitals to start with, NC with 50ish. Bob comes in on a gride load. Warps dreads and carriers within fighting rang of our caps well their moms sit back a couple hundred out. We then go toe to toe for some time, much lag. Most of us on both sides would lock and then sit and watch the target sit at 90% shields. Then fianly target would take damage and go down. NC started pulling away with positive kill to lose ratio. With the continued resuplyed GBC and FCing they where able to pull it back together. The lag first off seemned to be managable for us, when we tryed to withdrawl our clients where locked up, thats where we took loss. Even though our supers where not tackled, we could not open the jump to member screens. Just one of those things. Great fun on both sides was had, thanks to all the great pilots who put their assets on the line. If you start retreating, the slowest ones to run will definately die :$ maybe next time, try fighting to death? If Brute force doesn't solve your problems, you're not using enough.
Korinn The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.08.06 04:46:00 - [106] Originally by: Mia Archer D) At least it didn't die to my own pos OH SNAPE
Mia Archer Amarr Insidious Existence RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.06 04:53:00 - [107] Originally by: Aaron Mirrorsaver how are we going to make them fix it? put them on trial. dont you think if the solution was easy that they would? I dont think it would hurt for them to be held more accountable for the ships that are lost to desyncs and game breaking lag that they currently get away with under the guise of "our logs show nothing" or "we don't reimburse due to lag caused by our servers not meeting the demand". But beyond that they should be held more accountable for keeping us informed of whats actually happening with the server improvements, look at all the dev blogs on random topics and then at how long its been since we have heard anything offical from CCP about the so called "need for speed initiative" other than it will be here "soon" ____________________________________________
Rudi Storm SGL	Posted - 2008.08.06 05:27:00 - [108] Could someone give an update whats going on in VFK? (bored at work)
Crucifier BURN EDEN Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.06 05:35:00 - [109] Originally by: Viper **zIe Originally by: Mia Archer Waaaaaaaaa I lost my shit fit dread and my alliance isn't replacing it. Oh god the tears, the ****ing tears are so good in this thread. Go back to loosing faction fitted carriers to your own pos ______
Zagum Darkfin Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.06 05:42:00 - [110] Originally by: Rudi Storm Could someone give an update whats going on in VFK? (bored at work) They are rotating again. ..i..

Vily Amarr Eternity INC. Project Alice.	Posted - 2008.08.06 05:45:00 - [111] i cant find all 3 ms kills on the bob killboard, where is the third one? -
Zeoliter Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.06 05:50:00 - [112] Killmail wasn't generatd by the final blow or the Aeon owner. Seems killmails are now unreliable in lagged out systems just like many DD killmails aren't getting generated anymore.
Vily Amarr Eternity INC. Project Alice.	Posted - 2008.08.06 05:58:00 - [113] who was the pilot? -
Kruntologist Red Eye .Inc. Rare Faction	Posted - 2008.08.06 06:10:00 - [114] Originally by: Maj'k Lootar Originally by: Mia Archer This wasnt even lag... it was basicaly totaly non functional user interface i couldnt even open menus or select modules or anythign the client wouldnt even respond to the mouse lol cynos didnt even show up as avaialble to jump to till 10 minutes after they were down, the fact that CCP is not held accountable for these issues is rediculous. Yes both sides have to deal with it yes everyoen lags like hell but thats not the point. The point is both of us are paying for this game and CCP is charging us for shit thats nto playable and giving us nothing in the way of improvements other than vague "we will fix it "soon" comments. I dont mind losing ships, and i dont expect fights to be lag free but i do expect that we should beable to put a few hundred people together on a field and shoot each other without 30 minute module activation as i see it, it is alliances such as razor and the NC coalition that are to blame for the state of the game now. your refusal to play small scale pvp for fear of losing to more talented pvpers in smaller number has forced you to form super alliances and super blobs. i find it no coincidence that it is people like you who cried for the nerfing of nanos cloaks and pretty much any tactic used to fight against larger numbers. you then cry that the server can't hold up larger numbers? i have no sympathy for idiots. enjoy the game you helped create. Absolutely quoted for truth.
Deva Blackfire D00M.	Posted - 2008.08.06 06:29:00 - [115] Originally by: Kruntologist Originally by: Maj'k Lootar Originally by: Mia Archer This wasnt even lag... it was basicaly totaly non functional user interface i couldnt even open menus or select modules or anythign the client wouldnt even respond to the mouse lol cynos didnt even show up as avaialble to jump to till 10 minutes after they were down, the fact that CCP is not held accountable for these issues is rediculous. Yes both sides have to deal with it yes everyoen lags like hell but thats not the point. The point is both of us are paying for this game and CCP is charging us for shit thats nto playable and giving us nothing in the way of improvements other than vague "we will fix it "soon" comments. I dont mind losing ships, and i dont expect fights to be lag free but i do expect that we should beable to put a few hundred people together on a field and shoot each other without 30 minute module activation as i see it, it is alliances such as razor and the NC coalition that are to blame for the state of the game now. your refusal to play small scale pvp for fear of losing to more talented pvpers in smaller number has forced you to form super alliances and super blobs. i find it no coincidence that it is people like you who cried for the nerfing of nanos cloaks and pretty much any tactic used to fight against larger numbers. you then cry that the server can't hold up larger numbers? i have no sympathy for idiots. enjoy the game you helped create. Absolutely quoted for truth. Have to agree. Even if CCP were to "fix" the lag issues you would only bring more people, because "you can". Maybe its time to try and fight without using "everything + kitchen sink" (as Fred0 said - thx for his quotes) and start using some on par setups/ships? but no - you might actually lose expensive ships and lag gives you 50/50 chance of win/lose. Sadly not anymore...
Homo Erectus Evolution	Posted - 2008.08.06 06:33:00 - [116] Edited by: Homo Erectus on 06/08/2008 06:33:44 STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY MY CRAP LIL GUARDIAN WAS TARGETED DURING THIS TINY FIGHT. SURELY THERE ARE MORE IMPORTANT THINGS TO SHOOT. PS. PVP LESSONS STILL FOR SALE TO NC AT SRSLY DISCOUNTED PRICES. (yes i spose some props to NC for actually fighting are deserved)
BobbySteelz Dirty Deedz	Posted - 2008.08.06 06:35:00 - [117] Originally by: Mia Archer Originally by: Aaron Mirrorsaver how are we going to make them fix it? put them on trial. dont you think if the solution was easy that they would? I dont think it would hurt for them to be held more accountable for the ships that are lost to desyncs and game breaking lag that they currently get away with under the guise of "our logs show nothing" or "we don't reimburse due to lag caused by our servers not meeting the demand". But beyond that they should be held more accountable for keeping us informed of whats actually happening with the server improvements, look at all the dev blogs on random topics and then at how long its been since we have heard anything offical from CCP about the so called "need for speed initiative" other than it will be here "soon" They've been working on the supercomputer to handle all of eves lag!
Cassiuss Minmatar Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.06 06:42:00 - [118] I watched prons and fapped during the engagement. THOUGHT I'D LET YOU KNOW.
Selk Cantor Minmatar Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.06 06:49:00 - [119] Originally by: *****ia NC should self-destruct their ships in retaliation! Mynas has been around. Maybe he's doing some consulting work. The brainchild behind the new rotation stratagem?
Maria D'thinker School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.08.06 07:02:00 - [120] Originally by: Vily who was the pilot? loseeki



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