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Sirius Problem
Darkness Inc.
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Posted - 2008.08.09 12:50:00 -
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Well I'm late to the thread, but the crybaby masses win again.
The sec system is still a joke. 0.5 - 1.0 is now effectively a "no kill" zone. There is pretty much no reason for a carebear to worry about anything in high-sec, which is just wrong, IMO. Especially, as others have mentioned, you've just created macro-miner heaven -- Which I suppose is good to some of CCPs biggest paying customers.
If high-sec is being made even safer, why not throw the pirates a bone and make low-sec more dangerous? - Remove gate guns or reduce their damage, decreasing with system sec status? What about removing WTZ in low-sec? My favorite would be to completely surround Jita by low-sec systems
Bah.. Why do I even bother posting? CCP just caters to the vocal minority of the financial majority. I guess that makes for good business, but an increasingly dull game.
---- Train more. Whine less.
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Sirius Problem
Darkness Inc.
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Posted - 2008.08.09 20:48:00 -
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Originally by: Dzajic nothing changes except that you lose more sec status and recieve no money from CONCORD kills.
Wrong. Read it again.
Hint - See section marked CONCORD
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Sirius Problem
Darkness Inc.
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Posted - 2008.08.09 21:04:00 -
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Originally by: sg1jack The game is here to cater for all people if they want to pvp they can if they want to carebear they can
True, but the changes that CCP continue to make push the opportunity for interaction between these two player groups further apart, which bears love and pirates don't.
Eve is (was?) a harsh game, but it seems to become less so with each patch. The only 100% safe place should be in a station. Empire is now so safe it's a joke. Really, does anyone even give the slightest though to system security status if it's 0.5 or above? THAT's what's wrong with the game. There are 3 zones. Hi-sec, low-sec, 0.0. The way things are now, they might as well just have 0, 1 ,2.
Quote: Why does a large part of the pvp community want to pvp everywhere make isk where ever they want but limit everyone who is not a pvp'er
Why do non PvP'rs want a 100% free ride? What sense of accomplishment is there playing a futuristic, deep space MMO if there is no challenge/risk? (Especially considering the backstory and entire premise of the game)
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Sirius Problem
Darkness Inc.
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Posted - 2008.08.10 03:32:00 -
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Originally by: Borgholio Why is it an issue if someone else might enjoy playing the game differently than you do?
That's a rather ironic statement considering that this whole patch is about one group of people not liking how another group of people enjoy playing the game. ---- Train more. Whine less.
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Sirius Problem
Darkness Inc.
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Posted - 2008.08.10 14:34:00 -
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Originally by: Par'Gellen That's probably the dumbest thing I've ever seen in print...
If I wanted to mix it up with pirates then I'd go to low sec. Hence the blog about the whole issue.
Edit: In summary - Pirates, just like carebears, have their place. They should stay there.
Oh my. You are playing the wrong game. Need I say it? WOW -->> That way.
PS. I think you just won the "dumbest thing in print" contest. ---- Train more. Whine less.
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Sirius Problem
Darkness Inc.
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Posted - 2008.08.10 14:44:00 -
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Originally by: Boohoomoar 100 % wrong. You can still suicide gank people.
If you are lucky. CONCORD response times are reduced.
Quote: Did you even read the blog? Pirates get less of a sec hit in the lower sec systems.
Pfft. Grab a brain for a moment. What pirate gives a shit about their sec status? That is just another carebear/anti-pie buff to make it less detrimental for them to be involved in non-war dec altercations.
Quote: Dull? Because CCP nerfed suicide ganking?
Clearly, you're a carebear alt or a noob. Either way, you just don't get it. ---- Train more. Whine less.
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Sirius Problem
Darkness Inc.
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Posted - 2008.08.12 00:29:00 -
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Quote: Just because I have no desire to grab my guns and start shooting some miner or mission runner that's doing nothing more than going about his day doesn't make me "less" of a player.
I don't think I ever said you were.
Quote: if there were actual effective means by which to defend myself
What is it that is special about you that prevents you from being able to defend yourself? Many others seem to be able to do this. I think what you are looking for is risk-free PvP. Sorry, that's not Eve.... yet.
Quote: the biggest problem in the entire game. Namely, there is no effective way to defend yourself against determined aggressors.
What a complete crock of BS. Again, you're looking for easy mode, and CCP has now made it even easier for you to be safe. This is why you are happy with the patch.
Contrary to what Anig Browl wrote, for me, it's not about some "elite" PvP attitude. Clearly, the game is dominated by hi-sec dwellers, of whom most are industry based. That is quite fine with me - I even have a hi-sec "good guy" character as well.
What disappoints me is seeing the constant erosion of the low-sec, solo/small gang, pirate play-style. And it's mostly because hi-sec dwellers complain loud and long that it's just not fair they get shot at once in a while. Everyone says "adapt", yet it's pirates that have often had to adapt the most, while the bears merrily continue to chew rocks.
In many ways, the bears are their own worst enemy. Many of the changes they have whined for have had negative results for them. One of my favs is aggro on jetcan ore theft.
There was a time when there was no aggro for ore theft, but the bears cried. So CCP gave them and their entire corp the right to kill someone who stole from them. And what happend? Bears started dying in droves because the evil ore thieves actually shot back.
It will actually be funny if the current band of whiners complaining about "salvage rights" get what the miners wanted with ore theft. They'll get more than they bargained for.
Quote: Why would anyone want to play a game where their only "role" was to log in and be beaten to death?
Some would learn to fight back or how to avoid such encounters. But why should you, right? You just want to play the game your way and mine in peace. Hypocrisy at its best. ---- Train more. Whine less.
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Sirius Problem
Darkness Inc.
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Posted - 2008.08.12 19:18:00 -
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Originally by: Ehranavaar since we bears can have unwanted pvp forced on us at any time by the "leet pirate types" how bout in the interest of fairness...
The problem many of you seem to have is that you think you should have the option to be 100% free from the risk of PvP. Sorry, this is Eve. A basic foundation of the game is that there is no such thing as 100% risk-free space. ---- Train more. Whine less.
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Sirius Problem
Darkness Inc.
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Posted - 2008.08.13 12:53:00 -
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Originally by: Angry Cheeto And the devs wrote the game just for you eh? BWAHAHA!
No, the devs wrote a game with certain concepts as the foundation. 100% risk-free space is not part of that foundation. That is what attracted me to the game.
Quote: I feel sorry for you. I really do.
Such a humanitarian. Too bad you're also a coward, too afraid to post with a main. Perhaps I killed you in low-sec? If so, it was not personal. I'm just playing a game.
Quote: The problem is that you think you have the right to force your play style on others. WRONG! So incredibly wrong it boggles the mind.
I guess a simple mind is easily confused. What's wrong is that you and others believe that you should be immune to aspects of game mechanics that you just don't happen to like. Boo Hoo. You could "adapt", but you would rather wine. And why not? It seems to get the dev's attention. Not to worry. The bears will still die as pirates adapt, again.
Quote: Strap on a pair and head to low/null sec
Ah, the classic carebear line. Strap on a pair and post with your main. I've been in low-sec for a long time. Currently at -9.8, it's not easy to get out.
Quote: I haven't been to empire in years
Ahh.. I see now. So you're a 0.0 alliance muppet that thinks skill is flying around in 100+ ship blobs.
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Sirius Problem
Darkness Inc.
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Posted - 2008.08.13 12:54:00 -
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Originally by: Shinigami Completely Remove The Insurance System From Eve
I have no problem with that idea. ---- Train more. Whine less.
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Sirius Problem
Darkness Inc.
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Posted - 2008.08.13 18:06:00 -
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Originally by: Angry Cheeto Edited by: Angry Cheeto on 13/08/2008 14:28:59 A mean ol' piwate called me a bear now I can die lol'ing. Yeah I posted with an alt. It was actually an accident but does it bother you? I'm so terribly sorry I forgot to care... In fact I'm so terribly sorry that I'm gonna do it again
Wit makes its own welcome, and levels all distinctions. No dignity, no learning, no force of character, can make any stand against good wit. -- RWE
I stand defeated.
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Sirius Problem
Darkness Inc.
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Posted - 2008.08.14 15:13:00 -
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Originally by: Bob Killan There are 1000 people whining all the time that there is no one to fight in low sec, well if all you lame pirates moved there and left high sec
Newsflash -- Pirates (-5 and lower) don't live in hi-sec.
Quote: oh wait what happens when yo do go to Low sec for a fight that hard man pirate warp/cloaks/logs/docks or a combination of all
mmm yeah. Those are carebear tactics.
Quote: Get some balls yourself there are lots of target in low sec unfortunately they wont be a sitting duck so you might actually have to risk some isk and show a bit of skill to have any chance
Spoken like the hi-sec mission running bear that you are. Clueless and quite possibly illiterate. Hint: Once you hit -5 you can't be in hi-sec. So guess where I live?
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