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Zhenga
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Posted - 2008.08.07 14:21:00 -
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CCP,
How is it that drones are able to use a mwd in deadspace missions but I can not nor can the rats? I think that it is only fair to nerf drone mwdÆs in deadspace. This will help bring balance to lvl4 missions.
Zhenga
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Eran Laude
Gallente
The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2008.08.07 14:22:00 -
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No
Bye now
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hedfunk
Caldari
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2008.08.07 14:23:00 -
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I think as a dedicated level 4 mission runner, you should be handed isk on a plate, with no risk to lose your ship whatsoever.
OH WAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT
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Tarminic
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.08.07 14:24:00 -
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Yes, clearly the Raven isn't good enough at missions as it is. 
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Zhenga
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Posted - 2008.08.07 14:25:00 -
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 Originally by: hedfunk
I think as a dedicated level 4 mission runner, you should be handed isk on a plate, with no risk to lose your ship whatsoever.
OH WAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT
Is this not how lvl4's are? endless isk with no risk at all.
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Rostran Targo
Minmatar
Kinda'Shujaa
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Posted - 2008.08.07 14:26:00 -
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If you're a troll: get out.
If not: no, cry some more and get out.
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Zhenga
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Posted - 2008.08.07 14:28:00 -
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Originally by: Rostran Targo
If you're a troll: get out.
If not: no, cry some more and get out.
This is a real question. CCP says that mwdÆs can not work in dead space yet drones are able to utilize there mwd. WhatÆs the deal?
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Processor Failbox
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Posted - 2008.08.07 14:31:00 -
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Did someone get killed in their mission? Only reason i'd see anyone saying ''drones can use mwds in lvl 4s oh noes!"
Only balance I see is
1)making people not using a drone boat in missions anymore. (unless they sentry it up )
2)isk/hour would suck compared to the all mighty raven.
besides drones get probed out like a mofo if you are being hunted
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Ghost Goat
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Posted - 2008.08.07 14:35:00 -
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Originally by: Zhenga
Originally by: Rostran Targo
If you're a troll: get out.
If not: no, cry some more and get out.
This is a real question. CCP says that mwdÆs can not work in dead space yet drones are able to utilize there mwd. WhatÆs the deal?
the deal is that they don't want you , the player , to use mwd in dead space .
probably because they don't want people finish missions even faster then they do now .
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Faife
Minmatar
Kinda'Shujaa
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Posted - 2008.08.07 14:53:00 -
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3 words: speed tanking interceptor
if you don't know why this would break missions, then don't worry about it.
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Zhenga
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Posted - 2008.08.07 14:58:00 -
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Originally by: Faife
3 words: speed tanking interceptor
if you don't know why this would break missions, then don't worry about it.
I donÆt want ships to use MWDÆs in missions, I wan drones to lose the ability to use mwdÆs in missions.
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Tarminic
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.08.07 14:59:00 -
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Originally by: Zhenga
Originally by: Faife
3 words: speed tanking interceptor
if you don't know why this would break missions, then don't worry about it.
I donÆt want ships to use MWDÆs in missions, I wan drones to lose the ability to use mwdÆs in missions.
Why?
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Winterblink
Body Count Inc.
The Requiem
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Posted - 2008.08.07 15:03:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic
Why?
Because he obviously doesn't fly a ship where a large percentage of his DPS comes from drnoes, thus has no clue what he's talking about.
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Zhenga
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Posted - 2008.08.07 15:03:00 -
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Edited by: Zhenga on 07/08/2008 15:03:42
Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: Zhenga
Originally by: Faife
3 words: speed tanking interceptor
if you don't know why this would break missions, then don't worry about it.
I donÆt want ships to use MWDÆs in missions, I wan drones to lose the ability to use mwdÆs in missions.
Why?
Because missions are to easy and have no risk. Lvl 4 missions should either be made much harder or make the missions take longer to do.
Nerf drones, Nerf cruise missiles. Ect, ect. These things are overpowered. (when it comes to missions)
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Slanty McGarglefist
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Posted - 2008.08.07 15:06:00 -
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Originally by: Zhenga
Because missions are to easy and have no risk. Lvl 4 missions should either be made much harder or make the missions take longer to do.
Nerf drones, Nerf cruise missiles. Ect, ect. These things are overpowered. (when it comes to missions)
Instead of nerfing mechanics that affect every player in the universe, why not start small and limit the rewards from missions? Make rats only drop named goods or less loot. Make them give less bounty.
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Tarminic
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.08.07 15:08:00 -
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Originally by: Zhenga
Because missions are to easy and have no risk. Lvl 4 missions should either be made much harder or make the missions take longer to do.
Nerf drones, Nerf cruise missiles. Ect, ect. These things are overpowered. (when it comes to missions)
Missions being too static is a problem with PvE, not with the weapon systems used with them. Doing things like creating special rules for drones and cruise missiles in PvE mission areas is a really dumb way to balance things in my opinion.
I don't see what the problem with drones is because currently NPCs can and do target them, and there also NPCs that will target ONLY drones until you shoot them.
Nerfing drones will have a huge effect on the Gallente mission runners, a significant effect on the Minmatar and Amarr mission runners, and little effect on the Caldari mission runners. Thus, it is a poor idea.
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Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2008.08.07 15:10:00 -
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Do I see people suggesting balance based on module names again?
CCP need to rename MWDs to something else to stop this.
MicroWhine Drive seems appropriate.
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Rhak Amharr
Minmatar
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2008.08.07 15:11:00 -
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Originally by: Zhenga
Because missions are to easy and have no risk. Lvl 4 missions should either be made much harder or make the missions take longer to do.
Nerf drones, Nerf cruise missiles. Ect, ect. These things are overpowered. (when it comes to missions)
Move lvl4 missions to lowsec, no need to nerf anything -> high reward with high risk. Problem solved.
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Furb Killer
Gallente
The first genesis
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2008.08.07 15:13:00 -
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Originally by: Zhenga
CCP,
How is it that drones are able to use a mwd in deadspace missions but I can not nor can the rats? I think that it is only fair to nerf drone mwdÆs in deadspace. This will help bring balance to lvl4 missions.
Zhenga
Afaik rats can mwd in deadspace, they just dont do it too often.
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Rostran Targo
Minmatar
Kinda'Shujaa
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Posted - 2008.08.07 15:14:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn
Do I see people suggesting balance based on module names again?
CCP need to rename MWDs to something else to stop this.
MicroWhine Drive seems appropriate.
Agreed.
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Micheal Dietrich
Caldari
Terradyne Networks
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Posted - 2008.08.07 15:17:00 -
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Real men use bouncers.
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Arna Padrona
Amarr
Viziam
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Posted - 2008.08.07 15:18:00 -
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Drones are already the one and only weapon system that can't instantly put DPS on a target. They need to travel there first. Removing MWD capabilities of drones would make drones useless in all deadspaces. All drone ships will immediately become nothing but open-space pvp/ratting ships. Why would we want to do that?
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Tarminic
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.08.07 15:21:00 -
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Originally by: Rhak Amharr
Originally by: Zhenga
Because missions are to easy and have no risk. Lvl 4 missions should either be made much harder or make the missions take longer to do.
Nerf drones, Nerf cruise missiles. Ect, ect. These things are overpowered. (when it comes to missions)
Move lvl4 missions to lowsec, no need to nerf anything -> high reward with high risk. Problem solved.
Players farm level 3 missions and make just as much ISK! Problem unsolved.
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soldieroffortune 258
Gallente
Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2008.08.07 15:46:00 -
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fine, ill bite
RP reasons: deadspace prevents LARGE ships from using MWD's since there isnt enough subspace to warp for such a large thing, but drones are small, thus dont require as much "subspace" to warp aroudn their ship and go really fast
real reasons: so people in drone boats can do missions, aka the VEXOR or Dominix two major drone boats, where ALOT of their DPS comes from, there not going to nerf that, not everyone can launch tons of missiles like the matar or caldari, otherwise there wouldnt be a difference in weaponry in the game, thus no diversity, thus making the game 100x more boring and predictable
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Freezehunter
Gallente
Black Knight Squadron
OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.07 19:05:00 -
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I have a better idea, LVL4 mission reward NERF plz!
Damn carebears...
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Tarron Sarek
Gallente
Cadien Cybernetics
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Posted - 2008.08.07 19:26:00 -
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Originally by: Zhenga
Because missions are to easy and have no risk.
I agree.
Nerf the Raven.
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Inara Subaka
Caldari
the united
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Posted - 2008.08.07 19:56:00 -
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Originally by: Tarron Sarek
Originally by: Zhenga
Because missions are to easy and have no risk.
I agree.
Nerf the Raven.
No. The Raven already got kicked in the nuts with the Torp range nerf a couple expansions ago (granted, that one was probably needed). It's a fairly balanced ship, it has the potential to put out a crapton of damage, but cruises aren't the way to do that. It's not an overpowered ship, it's just one of the more "user friendly" ships in the game.
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Freezehunter
Gallente
Black Knight Squadron
OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.07 20:37:00 -
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Originally by: Inara Subaka
Originally by: Tarron Sarek
Originally by: Zhenga
Because missions are to easy and have no risk.
I agree.
Nerf the Raven.
It's not an overpowered ship, it's just one of the more "user friendly" ships in the game.
You mean, it's as "user friendly" as that overtanked piece of crap that needs basically no training called "Drake" that every caldari s****uses for gate camps and 0.0 fleet battles?
You mean, the same "user-friendly"-ness that EVERY FREAKIN' caldari ship (easy mode, btw) character has?
NERF THEM TO HELL AND BACK, i say, or at least make them train as long as a gallente character to be good at PVP, not just train a few shit easy fast skills and get in a torp spamming raven or overtanked Drake and own everyone from month 2... >.>
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Serillah
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Posted - 2008.08.07 22:05:00 -
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Quote:
You mean, the same "user-friendly"-ness that EVERY FREAKIN' caldari ship (easy mode, btw) character has?
The drake lacks practical DPS. The only thing it has going for it is the tank. As for the drones, they should be left as is. For some ships its their only reasonable way of shooting at a target. Missions should be left as is. Not everyone is a blood-thirsty ravenous pirate that enjoys shooting haulers and noobs. Everyone should be able to play the game as they like. |
Kiki Arnolds
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.08.08 03:35:00 -
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Simple solution, for breaking the laws of deadspace with your drones, everytime they MWD a GCC should be triggered. I'll leave it to CCP to decide if concord should respond to punish your law breaking, or if it should be left up to the players... same system could work for ship MWDs...
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