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Gavin Darklighter
THE FINAL STAND
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Posted - 2008.08.11 00:43:00 -
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Come on Cown, everyone knows that the best Falcon counter is your very own Falcon alt :P
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Kazuma Saruwatari
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.08.11 00:48:00 -
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lol, waiting for the "NERF ECM" threads now, even though ECM has been already nerfed... -
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ZecsMarquis
Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.08.11 01:58:00 -
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Really enjoyed that! Great fights and music and want to say the permajam with ur sensor strength so high was sad :(
My first REAL video! Sanity's Requiem Beware the RaVeN! |
SilentHunter13
Subjugation
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Posted - 2008.08.11 02:28:00 -
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Originally by: Gneeznow nerf rifters
NEVA!!! lol, it's a first tho seeing a rifter beat a punisher 1v1 for me....
You know, now that someone has pointed the ECM thing out I should really complain being as the amount of times i've charged into the enemy with T2 ECCM overloaded just to sit there jammed for the entire fight
Makes me glad somtimes I have decent drone skills, who needs to lock em? just let the drones do ze work!!!!! ------------------------------------------
Analysing and Destroying your arguments since early 2007 :) Enjoy.
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mono ton
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Posted - 2008.08.11 07:19:00 -
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hmm liked the 1vs1 part didnt like the remote repping in docking range liked the low sec part didnt like the ecm part
seriously the falcon was loaded with the correct racial jammers at least 7 mid slots wasted. so he "wasted" 7 slots while you only fittet 3 eccm. and maybe he even overheated his jammers...
uh and nerf remote repping from neutrals when war targets are fighting. thanks.
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Thuumach
Minmatar Dead Men Squad
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Posted - 2008.08.11 10:08:00 -
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Originally by: SilentHunter13
Makes me glad somtimes I have decent drone skills, who needs to lock em? just let the drones do ze work!!!!!
Hmmm maybe, but what drones can flight 75Km from you? omg again... |
Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.08.11 10:14:00 -
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Originally by: mono ton hmm liked the 1vs1 part didnt like the remote repping in docking range liked the low sec part didnt like the ecm part
seriously the falcon was loaded with the correct racial jammers at least 7 mid slots wasted. so he "wasted" 7 slots while you only fittet 3 eccm. and maybe he even overheated his jammers...
uh and nerf remote repping from neutrals when war targets are fighting. thanks.
Sorry but your logic is flawed. His 3 eccm are WASTED and are USELESS every time he doesnt encounter jamming on the other hand the 7 ecm slots on a falcon are ALWAYS of use in ANY situtation. Dont try comparing that. I mean please, everyone knows falcons are OP and eccm are a joke. You will just look like a fool trying to refute that. ----------------------------------------- [Video] Support Barrage |
laniekat2
Minmatar Dirty Filthy Perverts The Border Patrol
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Posted - 2008.08.11 10:29:00 -
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Nice video cya
/me wait next vid...
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Buhhdust Princess
coracao ardente Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.08.11 10:48:00 -
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Originally by: Thuumach
Originally by: SilentHunter13
Makes me glad somtimes I have decent drone skills, who needs to lock em? just let the drones do ze work!!!!!
Hmmm maybe, but what drones can flight 75Km from you?
I believe theyre called Sentry Drones
alright vid, again oldies ftw.
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Dark Chasm
The Legends Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2008.08.11 11:14:00 -
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Cown videos are always nice. I know he has some ridiculous implants, but at least he's a proper pirate __________________________________________________________________ ل Don't worry about your beard, when your head is about to be taken لل لللللللللللللللللللللللللللللل- Sun Tzu, The art of War - |
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Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.08.11 11:20:00 -
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Originally by: Buhhdust Princess
I believe theyre called Sentry Drones
I belive falcons have longer range then sentry drones ----------------------------------------- [Video] Support Barrage |
LillaRinn
Federal European Industry Science and Research
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Posted - 2008.08.11 11:56:00 -
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requaiar!! :D -=-=-=-=-=-=- LillaRinn, CFO Join channel: FEISAR
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Darcha
Dark Production Industries
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Posted - 2008.08.11 12:54:00 -
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the control range is an issue for the sentries rather then the actual shooting distance since sentries won't lock beyond your control range so they cannot shoot beyond 55km ______________________________________ "There are NO bugs in EVE, just oversights" ----- Oveur and TomB, EvE fanfest 2006 |
Maeltstome
Minmatar Suicidal Office Clerks
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Posted - 2008.08.11 15:22:00 -
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Before i DL - can i just check: Is this going to be more single repper plate setups with HG slaves ontop of stations? -------
[12:07] w33Daz: a trained 1 skill fur 24 mins n it took 2 days aff drones lvl 5 [12:07] w33Daz: A WIS LIKE WTF |
Thud
Caldari Mad-Warping-Maniacs
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Posted - 2008.08.11 16:14:00 -
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Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari lol, waiting for the "NERF ECM" threads now, even though ECM has been already nerfed...
ECM doesnt need to be nerfed,ECM system needs to be changed to something less stupid. Nice Vid btw. ____ ____ My english is bad. |
ClawKnight
Annihilate.
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Posted - 2008.08.11 17:37:00 -
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Originally by: Thud
Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari lol, waiting for the "NERF ECM" threads now, even though ECM has been already nerfed...
ECM doesnt need to be nerfed,ECM system needs to be changed to something less stupid. Nice Vid btw.
It should at least be stacking nerfed (if I had my way it would be removed from the game completely)
Good watch as always Cown, the amount you get blobbed is loltastic (bonus points for having 'what is love' in there)
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Thud
Caldari Mad-Warping-Maniacs
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Posted - 2008.08.11 18:24:00 -
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Why dont you guys (cown,clawknight) make a thread about ecm on the development forum? Everytime i try it i just get told that i suck at pvp and cant figure out a way to counter ecm and thats why i whine. Maybe more people would listen if you "celebs" would say something,i mean they ecm fans can hardly say cown just sucks at pvp. I dont have mutch hope it will change something,but you could try.
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Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.08.11 18:43:00 -
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Originally by: Thud Why dont you guys (cown,clawknight) make a thread about ecm on the development forum? Everytime i try it i just get told that i suck at pvp and cant figure out a way to counter ecm and thats why i whine. Maybe more people would listen if you "celebs" would say something,i mean they ecm fans can hardly say cown just sucks at pvp. I dont have mutch hope it will change something,but you could try.
You should see the ecm thread in ships and mods. They calling me noob there aswell. ----------------------------------------- [Video] Support Barrage |
farfrael
Freelancer Union Unaffiliated
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Posted - 2008.08.11 19:02:00 -
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Edited by: farfrael on 11/08/2008 19:02:45 The ECM point Cown is trying to make is unfortunately not valid
What was the Falcon's setup? Did he have 5 racial jammers? if that was the case what are you complaining about? The Falcon pilot also "sacrificed" mid slots to be able to fight you and was useless against any other race.
If you don't know what the Falcon setup was, your argument is not valid. Reminds me of these cargo cult people.
Also, on a 1 vs 1 he would be unable to do anything to you (apart from jamming). 1 ship worth 100m incapacitating (and not killing, you can warp off) another one worth 120m is noting to cry about
What you are really complaining about is getting blobbed and not having somebody in your gang ready to go and smack that Falcon. Tough luck but 1) it's clearly what you like 2) it's got nothing to do with ECM until you can prove what the Falcon fit was.
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Thud
Caldari Mad-Warping-Maniacs
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Posted - 2008.08.11 19:30:00 -
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I have another point of view on that. I dont care what kind of ecm`s that falcon had,there shouldnt be a sytem in game that keeps you from defending yourself. If people shot you,you should be able to return the favor. Why on earth should there be a posibilty to kill a pvp ship without having to face consequences? I tried to explan that in so many different ways,i try it this way today: Eve is a game,you want to play it,its no fun if you cant play it. In a lot of situations if you fly solo,like when you dont ahve 3 eccm`s fittet,a falcon will take you out of the game almost 100% of the time and its buddys can take you appard without any danger for themselfs,so you cant "play" the game,you just sit there and watch your ship die,but if you cant play the game,its boring.
Tracking disrupors are a good example for EW as it should be,it makes the target weaker,but not defensles. I know that a change of the ecm system also means changing several ships too,so that they are still usefull,but it would make small gang and solo warfare more fun,couse you could fight more. More fighting = more fun. ____ ____ My english is bad. |
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Rear Commander
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Posted - 2008.08.11 19:34:00 -
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Perfect example of why ECM is overpowered in small gang pvp how anyone can argue otherwise is beyond me.
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Tobias Sjodin
Ore Mongers Black Hand.
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Posted - 2008.08.11 19:50:00 -
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Edited by: Tobias Sjodin on 11/08/2008 19:51:01
Originally by: farfrael Edited by: farfrael on 11/08/2008 19:02:45 The ECM point Cown is trying to make is unfortunately not valid
What was the Falcon's setup? Did he have 5 racial jammers? if that was the case what are you complaining about? The Falcon pilot also "sacrificed" mid slots to be able to fight you and was useless against any other race.
If you don't know what the Falcon setup was, your argument is not valid. Reminds me of these cargo cult people.
Also, on a 1 vs 1 he would be unable to do anything to you (apart from jamming). 1 ship worth 100m incapacitating (and not killing, you can warp off) another one worth 120m is noting to cry about
What you are really complaining about is getting blobbed and not having somebody in your gang ready to go and smack that Falcon. Tough luck but 1) it's clearly what you like 2) it's got nothing to do with ECM until you can prove what the Falcon fit was.
Agreed. The falcon's single role is to jam a target. When it has only one target it can focus it's mods. It has no other role, contrary to eg. a combat ship that can web, scram, do dps etc. - the falcon has one single purpose and it does it well. Obviously the falcon can't do anything on it's own aside from jamming, the real factor here is that it's not alone - it is used in conjunction with several other ships.
It's a viable counter to sologankbattleships, it doesn't blow them up but it keeps them toothless - especially if it's just one target. If you think the falcon is so powerful, get your own. In a 1v1-situation it wouldn't do much of anything against you anyways.
The pilot knew what race of BS he was fighting and fitted accordingly, perhaps by being less predictible you wouldn't be so hurt by the falcon?
Black Hand.
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isdisco3
Einherjar Rising
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Posted - 2008.08.11 20:34:00 -
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No special effects, zoom-ins, zoom-outs, or close-ups.
2/10
Now, I'll actually download and watch it.
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Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.08.11 20:36:00 -
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Originally by: Rear Commander Perfect example of why ECM is overpowered in small gang pvp how anyone can argue otherwise is beyond me.
Players with lesser skill dont like losing i win buttons, thats why. ----------------------------------------- [Video] Support Barrage |
Thuumach
Minmatar Dead Men Squad
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Posted - 2008.08.11 20:54:00 -
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Originally by: Thud I have another point of view on that. I dont care what kind of ecm`s that falcon had,there shouldnt be a sytem in game that keeps you from defending yourself. If people shot you,you should be able to return the favor. Why on earth should there be a posibilty to kill a pvp ship without having to face consequences? I tried to explan that in so many different ways,i try it this way today: Eve is a game,you want to play it,its no fun if you cant play it. In a lot of situations if you fly solo,like when you dont ahve 3 eccm`s fittet,a falcon will take you out of the game almost 100% of the time and its buddys can take you appard without any danger for themselfs,so you cant "play" the game,you just sit there and watch your ship die,but if you cant play the game,its boring.
Tracking disrupors are a good example for EW as it should be,it makes the target weaker,but not defensles. I know that a change of the ecm system also means changing several ships too,so that they are still usefull,but it would make small gang and solo warfare more fun,couse you could fight more. More fighting = more fun.
Signed, ECM is something like web that can stop you or dampener with -100% targeting range. I love falcon pilots, they can tell you GF after "fight", its not a fight, if you can't fight back. omg again... |
MADDOGzors
THE FINAL STAND
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Posted - 2008.08.11 21:39:00 -
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I don't understand how fighting on stations in high-sec seems like a good video to some of you people. Especially when he's being repped. Cown do you realize if you ever encountered a decent active tank pilot, that your plated 1 rep or pure plate setups would get destroyed. Try fighting without beind fed cap and remote repped in your videos, it just takes makes it turn to crap. In your next video try actually putting some good fights in there that don't involve a bunch of nubs shooting at you while you're being repped. Just about every fight that was in low-sec you call 5-7 ships a blob and get ****d. You need to polish your solo pvp skills and learn to scout properly, if you think otherwise prove me wrong in your first real pvp video, if you're capable of making one.
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Stab Wounds
Caldari State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.08.11 22:50:00 -
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Originally by: isdisco3 No special effects, zoom-ins, zoom-outs, or close-ups.
2/10
Now, I'll actually download and watch it.
yeah but still the best video released so far on the front page
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Xtreem
Gallente Knockaround Guys Inc. Exxxotic
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Posted - 2008.08.11 23:38:00 -
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nice vid :)
but yeah your right abot the ew, sucks hard atm
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Maeltstome
Minmatar Suicidal Office Clerks
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Posted - 2008.08.12 00:36:00 -
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Originally by: Stab Wounds
Originally by: isdisco3 No special effects, zoom-ins, zoom-outs, or close-ups.
2/10
Now, I'll actually download and watch it.
yeah but still the best video released so far on the front page
Nah, Frick Elite - for actually having the balls tot ake out that ship into PVP... even with a carrier behind him -------
[12:07] w33Daz: a trained 1 skill fur 24 mins n it took 2 days aff drones lvl 5 [12:07] w33Daz: A WIS LIKE WTF |
Shiodome
Caldari Universal Securities
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Posted - 2008.08.12 01:30:00 -
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Edited by: Shiodome on 12/08/2008 01:30:51 Pretty much the embodiment of relying on SP/isk over skill. Sitting ready to dock, remote rep'd, in a 'lol buffer' geddon, hitting f1-f8, no movement and minimal cap management. pvp doesn't get any worse, and couldn't get more boring.
A genuine thank you for the time and effort you've put into making your videos for the public, but they're getting less and less worthwhile as displays of 'high end' pvp. Won't be watching any future installments (watched all so far ^^ ), but if you enjoy it wish you the best of luck. o7 _____________________________________ today i am this cool: [uncool]================[*]====[cool]
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