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Omeega Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2008.08.13 15:15:00 - [181] Edited by: Omeega on 13/08/2008 15:16:05 Originally by: Deva Blackfire Wow so i guess all those 1 man corps/alliances are pretty awesome. Some of them date back (almost) to start of eve O_o. Great comeback! Originally by: Deva Blackfire Seriously - being alive on life (FIX anyone?) support doesnt count as success. Unless you like to vegetate. Fix didn't die nor entered in a vegetating state, they were fighting in the drone regions. I'm not saying they were the best alliance EVE had ever seen, I'm saying that when they were taking just too much heat they tried to adapt and rething their strategy. What would have been funny is if RZR managed to had lost a titan to TRINSURG but still would have sorted their things together and pushed the ballance on the otherside to make trinsurg disband and leave. Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3... Owing to lack of Eve-related content, signature removed. If you would like to discuss this, please mail [email protected] - Mitnal
Moonlight Express Amarr Moonlight Express Inc.	Posted - 2008.08.13 15:29:00 - [182] Originally by: Cippalippus Primus In the end what makes an alliance successful isn't how many victories it can achieve but how many losses they can go through without folding. In that case, goons are #1 by far.
Cippalippus Primus GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.08.13 15:30:00 - [183] Yeah, that was my point.
Butter Dog Gallente The Littlest Hobos	Posted - 2008.08.13 15:34:00 - [184] Originally by: Omeega Edited by: Omeega on 13/08/2008 15:18:40 Originally by: Deva Blackfire Wow so i guess all those 1 man corps/alliances are pretty awesome. Some of them date back (almost) to start of eve O_o. Great comeback! It's a hell of a lot better, than saying that an alliances greatest single accomplishment is 'not disbanding'. And in a point of fact, were it not the case that RZR did everything propped up by others, they probably would have disbanded by now. So it really is both a terrible point, and a moot one. A rare combination of CAOD poasting failure.
Omeega Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2008.08.13 15:44:00 - [185] Originally by: Butter Dog It's a hell of a lot better, than saying that an alliances greatest single accomplishment is 'not disbanding'. Great thing I didn't say that then! Originally by: Butter Dog And in a point of fact, were it not the case that RZR did everything propped up by others, they probably would have disbanded by now. So you're angry they're alive and your dead, because they basicaly have better allies/friends than you? Originally by: Butter Dog So it really is both a terrible point, and a moot one. A rare combination of CAOD poasting failure. Ok, I'm giving up. Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3... Owing to lack of Eve-related content, signature removed. If you would like to discuss this, please mail [email protected] - Mitnal
Venomire GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.08.13 15:50:00 - [186] That's the Bitter Dog we all know and love.
Deva Blackfire D00M.	Posted - 2008.08.13 15:53:00 - [187] Originally by: Omeega What would have been funny is if RZR had managed to lose a titan to TRINSURG but still would have sorted their things together and pushed the ballance on the otherside to make trinsurg disband and leave. Ya see whats funny about that? RZR never did this because RZR alone can NOT do this. Its weak alliance held only alive by sheer amount of blobbers they can rally. Never did anything alone and never will. Same for TCF tbf - you tried once, you failed big time. And yes - you were broken by same napfest (MM+RZR+D2+whoever else was there). So next time show if ya can do something alone before trying your pathetic smack. Because atm not many alliances were up to doing things solo w/o another 5-10k players backing them up.
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Butter Dog Gallente The Littlest Hobos	Posted - 2008.08.13 15:57:00 - [189] Originally by: Omeega Great thing I didn't say that then! I asked you what things of significance RZR achieved on their own, that is the only answer you gave. If you don't like your own answer, come up with something a little more substantial. Originally by: Omeega So you're angry they're alive and your dead, because they basicaly have better allies/friends than you? You and I both know there is no such thing as death in EVE. I chose to play the game in a certain way, as do TRI. That is what we were discussing. If you blob because you fear 'death' of some pixels, then you have my sympathy. Originally by: Omeega Ok, I'm giving up. Your best bet, I think. ---------- AKA 'Bitter Dog' Failing at everything he does in EvE since '05
Colonel Xaven Decadence. RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.13 16:03:00 - [190] That "omfg TRI is so uber and we have a MAX campaign aswell and all others are weak and bad omfgz0r!!11 (see my e-peen)"-Thread is becoming really funny... /me grabs some popcorn Proud member of RZR - Decadence.
Wesley Baird BURN EDEN Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.13 16:08:00 - [191] Originally by: Omeega So you're angry they're alive and your dead, because they basicaly have better allies/friends than you? Omeega my dear friend, you don't really believe being able to form the bigger blob is really a great accomplishment do you? I think the "coalitions" ultimate failure has shown that with enough hardware even a giant blob isn't enough to "win". While Tri may spew alot of stuff on the forums, in game we have generally stood without a massive blob backing us up. Even now, we fight against an alliance 3X our size, with many of its friends helping in many of the engagements we have had. You may think that having "great friends", ie, being able to put together a fleet of 600 is something to feel good about...I think its a fairly lame...
Aya Otosaki Titan Indurstrial	Posted - 2008.08.13 16:27:00 - [192] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Centauris lol. Satan posting with the TRI banner about a "victory". WTS Clue TRI have achieved more on their own than RZR ever have, or ever will, and the great majority would agree with that assertion. Fact. Any corp that has been alive for more than one month has achieved more than rzr has done alone, they don't work alone. whats your point. ----- Ignorance is my strength.
Ackaroth D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.13 16:34:00 - [193] Originally by: Aya Otosaki Any corp that has been alive for more than one month has achieved more than rzr has done alone, they don't work alone. whats your point. I dont think thats true about rzr, but I think you just agreed with his point. He doesn't think rzr are worth a damn because they dont do anything on their own. __________________________________________ -"This band I'm listening to is sooo underground, they released their first album as 60 minutes of silence." -"As an mp3?" -"As a word document..."
Cippalippus Primus GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.08.13 16:38:00 - [194] Then again who has ever done anything worthwhile on its own in the last 2 years? Don't say the GBC, aka Greater Bandwagon Coalition. -clp
Deva Blackfire D00M.	Posted - 2008.08.13 16:40:00 - [195] Originally by: Cippalippus Primus Then again who has ever done anything worthwhile on its own in the last 2 years? Don't say the GBC, aka Greater Bandwagon Coalition. And why noone tried? Too scared they might actually gasp lose?
Ackaroth D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.13 16:41:00 - [196] Originally by: Cippalippus Primus Then again who has ever done anything worthwhile on its own in the last 2 years? Don't say the GBC, aka Greater Bandwagon Coalition. TBH, depends on what you consider worthwhile? Everyones opinion seems to differ on that one. Wish we could get devs to sticky a list of shit that was worthwhile for talking about on caod. __________________________________________ -"This band I'm listening to is sooo underground, they released their first album as 60 minutes of silence." -"As an mp3?" -"As a word document..."
Cippalippus Primus GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.08.13 16:47:00 - [197] Originally by: Deva Blackfire Originally by: Cippalippus Primus Then again who has ever done anything worthwhile on its own in the last 2 years? Don't say the GBC, aka Greater Bandwagon Coalition. And why noone tried? Too scared they might actually gasp lose? Probably, yeah. Even because when you tried something on your own, you lost. -clp
One Chance coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.13 16:59:00 - [198] Originally by: Cippalippus Primus Then again who has ever done anything worthwhile on its own in the last 2 years? Don't say the GBC, aka Greater Bandwagon Coalition. As an alliance mate said, what is worthwhile? Different people fight for different reasons, in different styles. There will always be conflict in opinion. Some alliances like to fight a fight they know they're going to win, due to differing circumstances...numbers, skill, hardware, TZ etc. One person would say that a worthwhile action is taking a large amount of space, no matter the cost or numbers involved. Another would say that fighting alone no matter the outcome is a worthwhile feat. Other alliances will simply say that doing worthwhile things means that they've improved their region economically, new stations etc. You will always find conflict between alliances who are part of 'empires', and smaller alliances trying to do it on their own. Who is right? Noone...is all a matter of perspective. tl;dr - pointless argument.
Cippalippus Primus GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.08.13 17:01:00 - [199] Originally by: One Chance Who is right? Noone...is all a matter of perspective. tl;dr - pointless argument. That was a pointless retort to a pointless argument actually! Get your facts straight. -clp
Aya Otosaki Titan Indurstrial	Posted - 2008.08.13 17:11:00 - [200] Originally by: Deva Blackfire Originally by: Wesley Baird Originally by: Cippalippus Primus Probably, yeah. Even because when you tried something on your own, you lost. We're doing something on our own right now...and people seem to hate us for it... Because we are picking on an alliance with 3X our numbers...we are such bullies... I liked how one Hydra guy said: "remember David and Goliath?" And then s1 shown him numbers: TRI 500 HYDRA 1600 (numbers show were exact, cba to check em now) Why are people whining about blobbing, when it obviously doesnt mean a thing. ----- Ignorance is my strength.
Wesley Baird BURN EDEN Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.13 17:21:00 - [201] Originally by: Splagada Edited by: Splagada on 13/08/2008 16:59:48 numbers bragging, no please :p you have burn eden with you guys anyway looking for more pew personally :D I saw your apoc warp out from a dieing POS...couldnt find you after that...but dammit I will keep looking!!!
Splagada Minmatar Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.13 17:21:00 - [202] Edited by: Splagada on 13/08/2008 17:23:31 i dont fly apoc ! are you insinuating i would fly Amarr??? dont mix the food and the cook please! if i cant fit 1400s, its not a ship ------ Tides of Silence
SATAN BURN EDEN Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.13 17:38:00 - [203] Originally by: Hungo Originally by: Gjs312 Edited by: Gjs312 on 13/08/2008 02:52:58 Originally by: Hungo TBH - BE may be good at pvp but that is because THEY GANK AND GANK AND GANK AND GANK - They do not keep to fair fights, they do not fight when there is a chance they will loose Theya re cloaking cowards n always will be, no matter what stats they have, thats just the way it has been since they formed DHB and SATAN are both single men with no lives who crave the attention of othes because there mommy didnt pay them enuff attention Enough said really, i pity TRI for taking on such a bunch of teabags Yeh u can take that to the bank aswell Say whatever you want about BE, but ability to create the amount of space-anger contained in this post speaks pretty well for itself I think . Edit- please include this in your next recruitment drive if you ever have one, thanks. I wasn't angry you silly little boy, there is a very big diffrence between anger and complete disgust at attention spamming children like BE, perhaps next time little ald you could stop, think what your about to post and then type, and then re-read the post to make sure you have typed a mature repsonce? Just a little idea, everything i said about them was true and you know it :) Whether you agree or not is immaterial, im not looking for people to agree with me, fact is fact verses any kind of logic being flawed into a stable argument, it makes no diffrence either way, attacking me personally proves not point other than your own immaturity. I think thats about it, yes, yes it is oh and a sig for you You can take that to the bank to Seems to be associated with TRI alot now, i mean burned out pvpers do need a little pick me up don't they? Oh btw <---- That was sarcasm, not anger, whoops i did it again :/ gosh darnit Its posts like this that make it all worth while.
Wesley Baird BURN EDEN Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.13 18:00:00 - [204] Originally by: Splagada Edited by: Splagada on 13/08/2008 17:23:31 i dont fly apoc ! are you insinuating i would fly Amarr??? dont mix the food and the cook please! if i cant fit 1400s, its not a ship Apologies...could have sworn it was you!!!
Veldya Caldari Guristari Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2008.08.13 18:09:00 - [205] Originally by: Wesley Baird Omeega my dear friend, you don't really believe being able to form the bigger blob is really a great accomplishment do you? I think the "coalitions" ultimate failure has shown that with enough hardware even a giant blob isn't enough to "win". Unfortunately, the game requires blobs to dislodge well defended systems. NC didn't design the EVE mechanics. I am sure they would love to send in 10 people to take out an undefended system. I guess you have never tried to take out a cyno jammer with 200-300 defenders. What do you think they are going to take it out with, harsh language? Quote: While Tri may spew alot of stuff on the forums, in game we have generally stood without a massive blob backing us up. Even now, we fight against an alliance 3X our size, with many of its friends helping in many of the engagements we have had. That is a load of tripe. It is well known that Tri had a non-aggression agreement with the NC in that neither side went after eachother's assets but could shoot eachother's ships, it was as carebear as you can get. Tri finally broke that agreement when they decided to "help" Insurgency, and I use that term loosely. On the back of your support the legion of small time PvP Tri friendlies banded together, Tri was the flagship of the Trisurge conflict, everyone knew Insurgency would at best be a speed bump alone. Then at the most critical point in the conflict Tri abandoned Insurgency and the bandwagon of alliances to... attack Hydra. The aftermath of that every alliance that went against the NC was destroyed, self-imploded, drama bombed and was routed out of space. Quote: You may think that having "great friends", ie, being able to put together a fleet of 600 is something to feel good about...I think its a fairly lame... Yeah, I am sure Insurgency and the half dozen odd alliances that went to war against the NC because of your support of Insurgency feel great about the quality of Tri's loyalty. NC may have many flaws, one thing they do have is you can bet on your life Razor, MM, Iron, etc wont walk out on eachother and leave them to die. Anyone can destroy something, it doesn't take anything special, creating something and keeping it going when everyone tries to rip it down, that takes character. Hitting Hydra, again, when the NC have the GBC fighting on the front probably highlights the difference between the NC as an entity and Tri as an entity. They are just poles apart. I honestly hope Tri are a BoB pet because that is a damn site better than just hitting Hydra again just because you perceive them to be a soft target when they are pre-occupied in a more meaningful conflict.
Deva Blackfire D00M.	Posted - 2008.08.13 18:16:00 - [206] Originally by: Veldya blahblahblah And Guristari Freedom Fighters are who exactly?
Virtuoso DeToure Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.08.13 18:27:00 - [207] Originally by: Deva Blackfire Originally by: Veldya blahblahblah And Guristari Freedom Fighters are who exactly? OH GOD ROLEPLAYERS!! RUN AWAY!!!
Xiaodown coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.13 18:34:00 - [208] Originally by: Veldya I honestly hope Tri are a BoB pet because that is a damn site better than just hitting Hydra again just because you perceive them to be a soft target when they are pre-occupied in a more meaningful conflict. As we've said time and time again, taking Hydra's space is simply a way to move the "unsavory element" next door to Morsus Mihi, Pure, RZR, and the other NC alliances. There's nothing particularly compelling about Hydra space, except that they don't deserve to own it. What it does is put us literally less than 8 jumps in any direction from people who want to fight us. Also, lol, we don't "perceive them to be a soft target". They are a soft target. They're not "pre-occupied with a more meaningful conflict". Right now they're pre-occupied with wondering why their leaders refused our offer of surrender terms that would include evacuation rights. Now, can we take MM's space? I don't know; their 500 titans in one system with a cynojammer up would be pretty hard to crack. I'm not saying it couldn't be done, I'm just not saying that it can, either. But, what's going to be fun is the fact that we now live next door to them. It's like two neighbors who hate each other - even if neither is trying to move the property line in order to own more real estate, it's pretty likely that rocks will be thrown at windows, and flaming bags of poo will be placed at doorsteps shortly before doorbells are rung. (I actually like RZR. There I said it. I like fighting them.) -- Sig under construction.
Wesley Baird BURN EDEN Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.13 18:39:00 - [209] Originally by: Veldya NC may have many flaws, one thing they do have is you can bet on your life Razor, MM, Iron, etc wont walk out on eachother and leave them to die. You mean like Razor, MM, Iron etc are leaving Hydra to die?!!? LOL LOL LOL
Zaethiel D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.13 19:04:00 - [210] i will miss killing hydra, please dont surrender for another week. -----

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