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Serenity Celestine Polaris Project Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.11 04:05:00 - [1] Edited by: Serenity Celestine on 11/08/2008 04:10:39 Hi friends, and welcome! This an official announcement that "Serenity's School of Combat and Tactics" (SSOCT) is now open. This School will offer complete and comprehensive training on how to forge yourself, your corp, or your alliance into an effective and solid fighting force. I have been helping friends and allies form their corps and alliances into strong pvp forces for a very long time. There are many people who can attest to this, and many would gladly do so. I have decided to extend this service to anyone in Eve who wants to learn to pvp with the best. I promise after I am done with you, your corp, or alliance, you will be a cool, stream lined fighting force that people will think twice about messing with, this is guaranteed. This training includes; what ships are good for pvp, how to fit such ships for pvp, what a well rounded pvp gang looks like, as well as fleet and/or solo tactics, and more. You will not come out of this training just an average pvp force, you will be better, and know how to fight in a smarter manner that minimizes losses while maximizing kills. However, I will only train players who WILL NOT use these skills to pirate or exploit other innocent players. So no, sorry pirates, nothing for you here. I am here to train those that wish to learn to defend themselves against unwaranted agression, and random war declarations from pirate corps looking for ransoms or easy kills. I am here to train those that wish to learn how to become better and more effective anti-pirates. And I am here also to train those who just wish to learn how to become better pvpers, but as I said..... no pirates. I suspect this will mostly appeal to empire dwelling corps who are sick and tired of getting kicked in the teeth by random war decs, or those who would like to visit an ugly revenge on those who have wronged them in the past. But there is no reason to wait if you just want to be a better pvper. Now, I am a business man, so no this service does not come free. This is a time consuming venture and there will be a price to be paid. And this price varies in accordance with if it is a single person, a corporation, or an alliance, as it takes more time for the more people. But in the end YOU WILL come out a strong enough force to fight off those that mean you harm. No more paying ransoms, no more losing tons of ships and pilots to a more experienced pvp force, no more sitting in station while 3 guys camp your entire corp or alliance outside the station, and no more having to hire Mercs to fight for you. You will be able to smile when you recieve a mail from concord saying that "so and so" has declared war on you, cause you know they have no idea what they have just gotten themselves into. I now have the time to start training a new force, and am taking applications. Details will be discussed in private once i have recieved your application and I contact you. Obviously, I can only handle so much at once so dont delay. If this sounds good to you, please send me an eve-mail with info about you, your corp, or your alliance and any existing situations you are experiencing that might require more immediate attention. You may also post here if you are interested, but obviously no details of any arrangements will be discussed in this thread. Feel free to ask questions or inquire if you would like to know more about what I can offer. But please only respond here with posts relevant to the topic. Hope to be hearing from you very soon. Sincerely, Serenity Celestine
PsychoBones Morphine Inc	Posted - 2008.08.11 04:26:00 - [2] I can't help but laugh at anybody who needs to sign their entire alliance up for this. --------------------------------------------------------------
Aaron Mirrorsaver Warped Mining	Posted - 2008.08.11 04:29:00 - [3] on behalf of tyleritus and acabtr id like to sign them up. they need it badly. ------ GBC old timer. AKA "the dude"
PsychoBones Morphine Inc	Posted - 2008.08.11 04:32:00 - [4] Originally by: Aaron Mirrorsaver on behalf of tyleritus and acabtr id like to sign them up. they need it badly. I liked your old sig better --------------------------------------------------------------
Eternal Error Exitus Acta Probant	Posted - 2008.08.11 04:32:00 - [5] tl;dr I read the first sentence and realized it was a serious post, so I stopped.
Vasili Z Pyre of Gods	Posted - 2008.08.11 04:34:00 - [6] DAMNIT WHY DIDN'T I THINK OF THIS ------- Join P0GS! Only Girls allowed. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=843874&page=1
Serenity Celestine Polaris Project Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.11 04:40:00 - [7] Edited by: Serenity Celestine on 11/08/2008 04:42:54 Well obviously some people could use something like this, or Mercs wouldnt be getting many contracts in high sec now would they? Why hire people to do what you could do urself with a little learning?
PsychoBones Morphine Inc	Posted - 2008.08.11 04:43:00 - [8] Originally by: Serenity Celestine Well obviously some people could use something like this, or Mercs wouldnt be getting contracts in high sec now would they? Why hire people to do what you could do urself with a little learning? For the same 2 reasons most of them won't sign up for your service tbh: 1. They are lazy and/or 2. They don't want to PvP --------------------------------------------------------------
Junkie Beverage GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.08.11 04:46:00 - [9] Originally by: PsychoBones Originally by: Aaron Mirrorsaver on behalf of tyleritus and acabtr id like to sign them up. they need it badly. I liked your old sig better i have sigs off
PsychoBones Morphine Inc	Posted - 2008.08.11 04:52:00 - [10] Originally by: Junkie Beverage Originally by: PsychoBones Originally by: Aaron Mirrorsaver on behalf of tyleritus and acabtr id like to sign them up. they need it badly. I liked your old sig better i have sigs off Is that so you don't have to look at your own? --------------------------------------------------------------
Machine Delta GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.08.11 05:01:00 - [11] Originally by: Serenity Celestine Edited by: Serenity Celestine on 11/08/2008 04:42:54 Well obviously some people could use something like this, or Mercs wouldnt be getting many contracts in high sec now would they? Why hire people to do what you could do urself with a little learning? Good luck with this, it sounds interesting. snip Your signature is inappropriate. Do not post it again. If you have questions, email [email protected] with a link to your signature graphic. -Rauth Kivaro ([email protected])
Serenity Celestine Polaris Project Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.11 05:09:00 - [12] ty, I have already helped alot of people. Figured I could help more if anyone wanted it.
Tress Macneille Eight year old girls GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.08.11 05:41:00 - [13] I'd like to sign rho squad up for this
Prof Patpending Warp badgers with guns	Posted - 2008.08.11 06:23:00 - [14] Originally by: Tress Macneille I'd like to sign rho squad up for this Personally I would get Epsilon on this program. However they would have to login for once and stop playing gf.com.
Aaron Mirrorsaver Warped Mining	Posted - 2008.08.11 06:28:00 - [15] Originally by: PsychoBones Originally by: Aaron Mirrorsaver on behalf of tyleritus and acabtr id like to sign them up. they need it badly. I liked your old sig better this current sig was created for me, for free by a goonie... ------ GBC old timer. AKA "the dude"
Evil Pookie BURN EDEN Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.11 07:43:00 - [16] Name: Serenity Celestine Alliance: Curatores Veritatis Alliance Corporation: Polaris Project Losses: 51 Kills: 168 Success ratio: 766% (4:1) Lost ISK: 4,719,237,382 Destroyed ISK: 36,139,834,582 Rank: 14,848 You could do worse than learning from this toon. But I would suggest that there are much more talented people out there. Kudos for offering to teach the noobs. If you listen to the CAOD trolls, BURN EDEN has been teaching noobs for the best part of 5 years now
Ironnight Caldari x13 X13 Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.11 07:49:00 - [17] Do you have any classes about rotating? They're like 'oh shit son, its a trap ' Doomsday
Evil Pookie BURN EDEN Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.11 08:10:00 - [18] Originally by: Ironnight Do you have any classes about rotating? have you seen meatspin?
Serenity Celestine Polaris Project Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.11 08:16:00 - [19] Where you getting those stats from? . Mine differ slightly on my alliances KB :P missing only about several hundred kills there... or more.
Prof Patpending Warp badgers with guns	Posted - 2008.08.11 08:27:00 - [20] Originally by: Evil Pookie Originally by: Ironnight Do you have any classes about rotating? have you seen meatspin? You spin me right round baby right round like a record baby right round round round
Deva Blackfire D00M.	Posted - 2008.08.11 08:35:00 - [21] Originally by: Serenity Celestine Edited by: Serenity Celestine on 11/08/2008 08:21:53 Where you getting those stats from? . Mine differ slightly on my alliances KB :P missing only about several hundred kills there... or more. Ohh, pfft battle clinic lol. cause we all know all killmails get posted there. Id say a very weak indicator at best. The only indicator thus the best indicator.
Onionico Series of Tubes	Posted - 2008.08.11 08:42:00 - [22] This has got to be a troll. Please tell me this guy isn't serious. Anyone?
Serenity Celestine Polaris Project Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.11 08:53:00 - [23] Not a troll, dead serious. Guess Ill be pasting alot of killmails to battleclinic .
Onionico Series of Tubes	Posted - 2008.08.11 09:02:00 - [24] Originally by: Serenity Celestine Not a troll, dead serious. Guess Ill be pasting alot of killmails to battleclinic . A serious post in THIS forum? No way. It's a trap.
bluebeyond MicroFunks	Posted - 2008.08.11 09:07:00 - [25] We should all chip in and get hydra a few lessons.
John Revenent Caldari Revenent Defence Corperation The Omni Federation	Posted - 2008.08.11 10:02:00 - [26] Great Idea, TOF always supports people who are willing to assist new and old players in pvp and how to stay alive against people who like to prey on peoples inexperiance. If you need any assistance in this School in any way, please feel free to contact me in game. John Revenent TOF Chancellor.
Alex Ravenshaw Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2008.08.11 10:03:00 - [27] I think CVA could do with some of that advice first, before you start handing it out just saying. ________ [INFOD] +
Tahaki Sheratu Sentience.	Posted - 2008.08.11 10:07:00 - [28] I think your fellow providence numpties could use a free taster session.
Larg Kellein Caldari Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2008.08.11 11:03:00 - [29] Good luck, always good to see more people willing to help others see the way of the pewpew.
Nira Li Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.11 11:58:00 - [30] I'd like to assign the whole of GBC to your school, it's obvious that we need all the help we can get if we are to survive against NC.
Prof Patpending Warp badgers with guns	Posted - 2008.08.11 12:30:00 - [31] Originally by: Nira Li I'd like to assign the whole of GBC to your school, it's obvious that we need all the help we can get if we are to survive against NC. Nice self burn
Nira Li Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.11 12:52:00 - [32] Originally by: Prof Patpending Originally by: Nira Li I'd like to assign the whole of GBC to your school, it's obvious that we need all the help we can get if we are to survive against NC. Nice self burn It sure is
Prof Patpending Warp badgers with guns	Posted - 2008.08.11 13:20:00 - [33] Originally by: Nira Li Originally by: Prof Patpending Originally by: Nira Li I'd like to assign the whole of GBC to your school, it's obvious that we need all the help we can get if we are to survive against NC. Nice self burn It sure is Indubidably
Ackaroth D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.11 14:15:00 - [34] Agony does it, wont say I think much of their classes, but its a cool concept and obviously there is a market for it if they keep flying around with 20-30 random corp gangs. __________________________________________ -"This band I'm listening to is sooo underground, they released their first album as 60 minutes of silence." -"As an mp3?" -"As a word document..."
Sevron Coldblood Agony Unleashed	Posted - 2008.08.11 16:12:00 - [35] Good luck on that, Serenity. Tough job you took there. cheers, Sevron
Ackaroth D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.11 16:49:00 - [36] Originally by: Alex Ravenshaw I think CVA could do with some of that advice first, before you start handing it out just saying. Just caught this. TBH, CVA has bears like everyone, but they have pvp'ers too, and they will put you out of their space if at all possible. CVA = Respec mon' __________________________________________ -"This band I'm listening to is sooo underground, they released their first album as 60 minutes of silence." -"As an mp3?" -"As a word document..."
Serenity Celestine Polaris Project Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.11 17:14:00 - [37] Ty, sev. Ive come up with a pretty decent way to do this without sucking up all my Eve time.
EMO Hawtsauce	Posted - 2008.08.11 20:37:00 - [38] tl;dr
steveid Haiduken	Posted - 2008.08.11 21:07:00 - [39] I'd reccomend hydra to you but its a bit late for that. Also, when has CVA ever had to face an A class opponent? Not flame, just wondered.
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.11 21:42:00 - [40] Originally by: steveid Also, when has CVA ever had to face an -A- class opponent? insert obvious pun about Against All Authorities I suppose you would have to define "A class"...but taking into consideration the general undesirability of Providence as a region, we've faced some heavyweights on some scale or another and regularly spar with smaller high-skilled raiders as well. Serenity, gotta concur that you were begging for utter failure posting this here.
Ackaroth D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.11 21:46:00 - [41] I dont think he realizes that CVA is NRDS and their space gets run through by pvp kiddies that want to get their nut every weekend. They have to deal with alot of pest, and then on top of that a top notch pvp alliance like -A-, who will just shoot them because they are there. __________________________________________ -"This band I'm listening to is sooo underground, they released their first album as 60 minutes of silence." -"As an mp3?" -"As a word document..."
Serenity Celestine Polaris Project Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.11 22:36:00 - [42] Hehe, actually Garreck, people have already responded. I expected alot of flame, but meh. I can help those that want it, and apperantly some do.
Tahaki Sheratu Sentience.	Posted - 2008.08.12 00:18:00 - [43] Originally by: steveid I'd reccomend hydra to you but its a bit late for that. Also, when has CVA ever had to face an A class opponent? Not flame, just wondered. AAA...a lot recently, and they havn't fared TOO badly. Tri a long while back, unfortunately the servers stopped most of the fights actually happening MC et co. when they tried to invade 49-u, under the fake contract of BOB. Regular roaming gangs from alliances such as RA, PL etc. (not so sure about any more, but certainly in the past). I'm quite sure they've fought BOB as well when BOB tried to kill the Paxton cyno jammer towers a long time ago Just a few there. CVA are an extremely competent group of pvpers. Unfortunately they associate those with ... not so good pvpers, and so their standards are let down horrifically.
Gneeznow Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.08.12 00:39:00 - [44] I'm sure even the smallest alliances know hot to bait n' gank and dont need CVA tutalage in the field, however if you want to learn how to gank solo'ers using jumpbridges / blobs with no risk to yourself then CVA are your guys
Onionico Series of Tubes	Posted - 2008.08.12 02:17:00 - [45] Do you offer courses in barrel rolls?
MarleWH Infortunatus Eventus Obsidian Empire	Posted - 2008.08.12 03:14:00 - [46] I here that Hydra Alliance is in need of some help.
Evil Pookie BURN EDEN Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.12 04:10:00 - [47] Edited by: Evil Pookie on 12/08/2008 04:11:13 Nice wun, glad to see you transfered about 250 killmails to battleclinic, now how about you transfer the, I would speculate, 100+ loss mails as well? what i posted initially Losses: 51 Kills: 168 after serentiy massaged the stats Losses: 51 Kills: 406 You could learn from worse pilots I guess, but there is also a metric shattonne of pilots who are more qualified aswell.
Serenity Celestine Polaris Project Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.12 04:21:00 - [48] Actually that pretty much covers my losses. But not going to get into an arguement over this, no point. Best to leave such a judgement you presume to make about me to those who actually know me and to the results of my training. I thank you for your interest here tho.
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.12 04:28:00 - [49] Originally by: Evil Pookie there is also a metric shattonne of pilots who are more qualified aswell. No doubt, and I mean that. Problem is, most of those more qualified pilots are too busy flexing their awesomeness by popping the n00bs they could be teaching instead. But that's what makes Eve go 'round
ReaperTox Gallente Idle Miners	Posted - 2008.08.12 15:55:00 - [50] At least add the feats of your alt Uriella VonTessen to the list... ...and by the way: are you going to teach how to smack talk, whine about ECM and ask for 1vs1 like you usually do? I hope you do...
Tifa Lionheart Minmatar The Beautiful People	Posted - 2008.08.12 16:05:00 - [51] Originally by: Ironnight Do you have any classes about rotating? No but I think barbara woodhouse wrote a book once about how to look after your pets. Maybe you should buy a copy and give it to bob and maybe you should get exe to take this course, coz they realllly need it tbh..
Prof Patpending Warp badgers with guns	Posted - 2008.08.12 16:07:00 - [52] Originally by: Prof Patpending snip Posting with an unidentified character and characters in NPC or alt corporations in this forum is prohibited. If you wish to participate in the discussions here, be sure to have your corporation and or alliance status ticked in your forum settings - Mitnal ([email protected]) What the crap. This is neither an NPC or an alt corp or infact a corp with only one member so go talk to George Orwell about your damned censorship. STICKEN IT TO THE MAN!
Buhhdust Princess You're Doing It Wrong	Posted - 2008.08.12 18:18:00 - [53] I have an alliance Named Hydra alliance. Now their current tactics consists of rotation and sniper dreads. I would like to sign them up, but i was thinking that it would be funnier not to.. Love Buhh ________________________________________
Karn Mithralia Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.08.13 12:16:00 - [54] Do you train freedom fighters? -----------------------------------------
Serenity Celestine Polaris Project Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.14 06:04:00 - [55] This has nothing to do with RP.
Scagga Laebetrovo Ammatar Free Corps	Posted - 2008.08.14 06:11:00 - [56] Originally by: Karn Mithralia Do you train terrorists? Fixed. San Matari Official forums
Onionico Series of Tubes	Posted - 2008.08.14 06:20:00 - [57] I'd like to take this opportunity to point out that TUBES exclusively trains terrorists. And we offer a wide variety of barrel role courses.
Death Cry	Posted - 2008.08.14 06:25:00 - [58] Serenity please send eve mail with rates I NEED HELP Death Cry
HakanSherif Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.14 09:53:00 - [59] i can train u about training ppl if u like, my fee is a mere 20b.
AltBier Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated	Posted - 2008.08.14 11:01:00 - [60] Edited by: AltBier on 14/08/2008 11:01:06 Originally by: Serenity Celestine However, I will only train players who WILL NOT use these skills to pirate or exploit other innocent players. How about anti-slavers ?
Volarius D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.14 11:15:00 - [61] Could you please post a preview of your training program in this thread? I am highly interested in some more pvp training but I would like to see what it is you will be offering before I pay of course. E.g. give me a short example training of what I would have to do if I am being attacked in low sec while ratting in a belt. I will be in a drake as always and let's say the pirate was in a myrmidon.
Serenity Celestine Polaris Project Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.14 17:34:00 - [62] Originally by: HakanSherif i can train u about training ppl if u like, my fee is a mere 20b. Sorry m8, I dont teach lag tactics .
Serenity Celestine Polaris Project Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.14 17:35:00 - [63] Originally by: Volarius Could you please post a preview of your training program in this thread? I am highly interested in some more pvp training but I would like to see what it is you will be offering before I pay of course. E.g. give me a short example training of what I would have to do if I am being attacked in low sec while ratting in a belt. I will be in a drake as always and let's say the pirate was in a myrmidon. No, your alliance falls under that "pirate" group I talked about in OP. Wouldnt help ya for all the isk in Eve soz.
Evil Pookie BURN EDEN Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.14 17:37:00 - [64] Originally by: Serenity Celestine Originally by: Volarius Could you please post a preview of your training program in this thread? I am highly interested in some more pvp training but I would like to see what it is you will be offering before I pay of course. E.g. give me a short example training of what I would have to do if I am being attacked in low sec while ratting in a belt. I will be in a drake as always and let's say the pirate was in a myrmidon. No, your alliance falls under that "pirate" group I talked about in OP. Wouldnt help ya for all the isk in Eve soz. Can i has cookie?
Eskalin Minmatar Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.14 17:47:00 - [65] /me hands pookie a cookie pets are so cute
Christina Bamar Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2008.08.14 20:48:00 - [66] Originally by: Serenity Celestine Originally by: Volarius Could you please post a preview of your training program in this thread? I am highly interested in some more pvp training but I would like to see what it is you will be offering before I pay of course. E.g. give me a short example training of what I would have to do if I am being attacked in low sec while ratting in a belt. I will be in a drake as always and let's say the pirate was in a myrmidon. No, your alliance falls under that "pirate" group I talked about in OP. Wouldnt help ya for all the isk in Eve soz. It might not be a bad idea to allow some experienced PvPers to take your course for free. If your course is good then it will certainly help your reputation and get you some free advertising. Even if it's not the case, by limiting it to only people who don't know how to pvp it makes it look as if you're not as qualified as you say you are. By being more open and transparent you'll have more success.
Serenity Celestine Polaris Project Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.14 23:03:00 - [67] Yes, you are right, that might certainly help bring more business. Got almost as much as I can handle atm tho. I wouldnt object to some experienced players seeing what i have to offer, but like I said, no pirates. I refuse to teach them my skills as they will just use them against undeserving opponents.
AltBier Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated	Posted - 2008.08.15 09:31:00 - [68] Edited by: AltBier on 15/08/2008 09:34:09 Quote: ... no pirates. I refuse to teach them my skills ... Ah .. but you could invite pirates to help you with the trainees' final exam, if people pass THAT it would be impressive.
128th ABC123 Eve Liberation Force Liberty.	Posted - 2008.08.15 10:37:00 - [69] Originally by: Gneeznow I'm sure even the smallest alliances know hot to bait n' gank and dont need CVA tutalage in the field, however if you want to learn how to gank solo'ers using jumpbridges / blobs with no risk to yourself then CVA are your guys Gneeznow seems to be a bitter anti CVA Troll... Tosser!
Volarius D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.15 11:07:00 - [70] Originally by: Serenity Celestine but like I said, no pirates. You just hate us cus we're manpretty.
Serenity Celestine Polaris Project Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.15 17:44:00 - [71] Ohh dont worry the people I train will get their chances against pirates if they like.
Evil Pookie BURN EDEN Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.15 18:14:00 - [72] Edited by: Evil Pookie on 15/08/2008 18:16:04 Originally by: Serenity Celestine Yes, you are right, that might certainly help bring more business. Got almost as much as I can handle atm tho. I wouldnt object to some experienced players seeing what i have to offer, but like I said, no pirates. I refuse to teach them my skills as they will just use them against undeserving opponents. I'm not a pirate (my sec status is very much in the positive) I'll go you one further and say that I have probably killed more pirates than you have. Seriously, if you would like me to critique your course, contact me.
Christina Bamar Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2008.08.15 21:09:00 - [73] Originally by: Serenity Celestine Yes, you are right, that might certainly help bring more business. Got almost as much as I can handle atm tho. I wouldnt object to some experienced players seeing what i have to offer, but like I said, no pirates. I refuse to teach them my skills as they will just use them against undeserving opponents. That statement would mean more if there were a single quality 0.0 PvP group other than CVA n co that doesn't run NBSI ;)
Serenity Celestine Polaris Project Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.16 02:22:00 - [74] Hehe, well like I said, I figured my target demographic here would be mostly none space holding entities.

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