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Co Chee
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Posted - 2008.08.12 03:39:00 -
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Edited by: Co Chee on 12/08/2008 03:41:06 I would first like to say that I am a trader whose only experiance of pvp is being suicide ganked. Some might say this disqualifies me from having an opinion on pvp balence but I say phish! This forum is filled with the rants of those who are clearly completely ingorant of pvp and CCP has made it clear by their actions that these players will be listened to!
I am sure that by now the pvp crowd are grating their teeth in anger and planning their terrible vengeance upon me but guess what Mr & Mrs PvP - you don't matter anymore. You has beens who never really was.
Since CCP have taken to investigating the demographics of Eve it has become clear to all where the power really lies. It is us! The Carebears - those you look down on and dispise. Eve is our game now. Yes - we control your game!
So onto the meat of post. Why Matar must be nerfed and nerfed hard! 
1. Even in my luxury condo in Jita, amidst my pleasure slaves and servants, the news has reached my ear of the atrocities committed upon the brave fighter in defence of money and greed. Yes it is true the Caldari have come to defend their race in far greater numbers than any other race and yet the perversion that is pvp in Eve has conspired to rob them of victory.
So I hear you say what has this to do with the Matar - it is the Gallente wtfpwning our brave Caldari warriors. Who cares - nerf the Matar anyway. Those low down sneaky Gallentee all fly Matar. Good for nothing elitest pvpers only fit to abuse the FOTM.
2. Throughout the expanses of 0.0 the decnt folk who seek to build, create, and make truck loads of isk are being plundered by hordes of uneducated pvp adicts flying high speed Matar ships. Sure they fly some non Matar ships so we must nerf them to but above all we must nerf the Matar to save civilisation in 0.0.
0.0 is cruel and harsh place where untold atrocities are commited by evil pvpers. The only hope in this forsaken space is the rise of industrial alliances dedicated to prosperity. By allowing market forces free reign and nerfing to oblivion the offensive arsenal of the horde of Barbarians 0.0 can be saved and prosperity can flourish. We must do it - we owe it to future generations.
Throughout Eve today pvpers fly Matar. Your time has come. The nerfs proposed by CCP are not enough and so I propose:
- the Hurricane lose its' 6th turret
- the Rifter, Stabber, Vagabond, Rapier and all the other fast pesks get a 150% mass increase and all other Matar ships a 125% mass increase.
- Large AC's are clearly overpowered - nerf them! Halve their tracking and falloff.
- the Typhoon is rumoured to be a good ship if you have 25m plus SP's. What sort of elitist crap is this - nerf it. 50m3 drone bay and only 2 missile bays should sort it out nicely.
Hmm - have I missed anything . . .
Nerf it!
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Tashiie
Perpetua Umbra Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.08.12 03:41:00 -
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Obvious troll is obvious!
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Amandin Adouin
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.08.12 03:43:00 -
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Edited by: Amandin Adouin on 12/08/2008 03:46:13
Are u tryin out sum of that re-verse psy-colo-ogee?
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AstroPhobic
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.08.12 03:49:00 -
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Do it.
-11/10 TBH.
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Gneeznow
Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.08.12 03:53:00 -
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*flies past not caring in his plated geddon with falcon alt in tow*
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Yelram
Minmatar AnTi.
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Posted - 2008.08.12 05:15:00 -
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Don't forget about large Arts. Everyone uses those because they're so over-powered. AnTi. |

Forge Lag
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Posted - 2008.08.12 06:36:00 -
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Weak trolling. Anyway.
Minmatar do need nerf based on FW. Even the FOTM Amarr could not beat them as Minmatar are way too good for fleet blobs.
Phoon is horribly overpowered ship. It has way too many drones and missiles to be balanced at that speed. Look at Dominix and Raven to see where Phoon should be. 80m/s post nerf sounds about right.
Also, Minmatar is rece of choice for gate camping and killing victims that keep CCP above water. Even medium autocannons can hit out to whole 20km range due to ability to fight in extreme falloff, the whole falloff is overdone and needs to be in line with optimal. Also Minmatar can lock haulers before they warp, scan res should be brought more in line with Caldari ships, after all you have TP to increase lock time and you should be using them.
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Artemis Rose
Odd End of the Universe
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Posted - 2008.08.12 06:39:00 -
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Sure thing. Rupture time! __________________________________________________
Currently Playing: Trolls from Outer Space Current Equipment: VISAcard chain mail, +2 Amulet of Epic Whine. WTB Purple Nerf Bat. |

Twacey
Minmatar Scoopex
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Posted - 2008.08.13 04:30:00 -
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Originally by: Forge Lag Even medium autocannons can hit out to whole 20km range
lolwut?
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Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2008.08.13 04:33:00 -
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Hard to find the troll in all the shitty RP speak. 0/10, maybe 1/10 for effort. --
http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html
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Derek Sigres
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Posted - 2008.08.13 05:04:00 -
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Originally by: Forge Lag Weak trolling. Anyway.
Minmatar do need nerf based on FW. Even the FOTM Amarr could not beat them as Minmatar are way too good for fleet blobs.
Actually it's INCREDIBLE trolling. It's funny afterall, and it's presented in a tone that makes me assume it's a satirical view of the situation. More importantly it drew a response from someone against what he said.
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EFT Warrior
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Posted - 2008.08.13 05:29:00 -
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I would like to subscribe to your RSS feed and/or newsletter.
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Zaran Darkstar
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2008.08.13 05:29:00 -
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Edited by: Zaran Darkstar on 13/08/2008 05:29:56 People it's obvious the guy is being sarcastic. How some of you have missed that?  Thumbs up for the OP i liked his style of writting.  |

Kikusaku
bhp Mining
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Posted - 2008.08.13 07:00:00 -
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nice the tempest has too many "utility" slots, too unpredictable so nerf it!
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atomic killer
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Posted - 2008.08.13 08:54:00 -
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Nerf something !!! Thats important !!! Minmatar are too fast !!! Even with afterburners !!! And they tank too well !!!
P.S. Nerf cap rechargers and PDU, Shield power relays and all other modules wich dont have stacking penalties. They make this game overpowered !!!
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Blind Jhon
Amarr Alenia psy departement
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Posted - 2008.08.13 10:04:00 -
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regret ur self your 650mmII autocannon perfectly turn of wreking your untanked minmatar ship |

NightmareX
MAFIA Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2008.08.13 13:13:00 -
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Edited by: NightmareX on 13/08/2008 13:14:38
Originally by: Co Chee Hmm - have I missed anything . . .
Yeah you missed that you suck horribly.
And i bet your just a newb in a bs without gunnery skills that only used neuts and nos'es that got wtfpwned by a Tempest, because your thought that when he was out of cap he couldn't shoot .
And can you answer me one question?. If yes then.....
Do you see most Minmatar or Amarr ships in fleet fights or in other fights?.
I can answer you the question already, because there is only one answer here, and if you answer Minmatar here, your a dumb f'cker.
And i think as the things are now, then i think Amarr is the race who need to be nerfed hard .
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Co Chee
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Posted - 2008.08.13 20:55:00 -
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Originally by: NightmareX
Originally by: Co Chee Hmm - have I missed anything . . .
Yeah you missed that you suck horribly.
And i bet your just a newb in a bs without gunnery skills that only used neuts and nos'es that got wtfpwned by a Tempest, because your thought that when he was out of cap he couldn't shoot .
Perhaps you might want to re-read my post with your brain turned on? It never occured to me that someone would take the post seriously.  
Originally by: Derek Sigres
Originally by: Forge Lag Weak trolling. Anyway.
Minmatar do need nerf based on FW. Even the FOTM Amarr could not beat them as Minmatar are way too good for fleet blobs.
Actually it's INCREDIBLE trolling. It's funny afterall, and it's presented in a tone that makes me assume it's a satirical view of the situation. More importantly it drew a response from someone against what he said.
/bow. You have it right of course. The aim of the post was to amuse and poke fun. I'm glad some people got it. I would however suggest that you have misunderstood the post you quoted as *I think* Forge is simply playing along.
Originally by: EFT Warrior I would like to subscribe to your RSS feed and/or newsletter.
Just send 50m to me and I'll make sure you recieve all my future efforts on behalf of the community along with a copy of my best seller - "How I made my first billion."
Originally by: Zaran Darkstar Thumbs up for the OP i liked his style of writting. 
A pleasure - I had so much fun writing it. 
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Uriel Septym
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Posted - 2008.08.13 21:08:00 -
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Originally by: NightmareX Edited by: NightmareX on 13/08/2008 13:29:43
Originally by: Co Chee Hmm - have I missed anything . . .
Yeah you missed that you suck horribly.
And i bet your just a newb in a bs without gunnery skills that only used neuts and nos'es that got wtfpwned by a Tempest, because your thought that when he was out of cap he couldn't shoot .
And can you answer me one question?. If yes then.....
Do you see most Minmatar or Amarr ships in fleet fights or in other fights?.
I can answer you the question already, because there is only one answer here, and if you answer Minmatar here, your a dumb f'cker.
And i think as the things are now, then i think Amarr is the race who need to be nerfed hard .
Minmatar actually need a little boost.
How...Like in the name of GOD did you, and all the other people who have so far flamed OP not notice that his post was IRONIC, SATIRICAL, it is as Stephen Colbert is to the Political Right. Meant to ridicule the silliness of the stance by making it so extreme.
Note: The previous paragraph is devoid of any attention to grammar, soooo yeah.
Note: I don't actually care about this dispute, since crosstraining is an option. In other MMOs if your race/class gets nerfed or sucks at endgame, guess what? REROLL! We in EVE have it easy.
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Toral Leear
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Posted - 2008.08.13 23:51:00 -
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Just lol... It shows the stupidity of the forums when something like this gets flamed. People, get a sense of humour. I hear they're selling them in Rens for 5mil 
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Marco P
Really Nice And Laidback Corporation
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Posted - 2008.08.14 00:02:00 -
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Hmm
I think you forgot to demand that Minmatar weapons should also need cap and lots of it. I think that about completes the list. 
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Jodie Amille
Sadist Faction
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Posted - 2008.08.14 01:34:00 -
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I lol'd 
I lol'd even more at the people who took this seriously.  
WTS sense of humour, 4.9m in Rens 
I rate the OP two thumbs up!!
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elnukeo
Running with Knives
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Posted - 2008.08.14 03:02:00 -
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person who made this thread nearly made me go crazy seeing it along with all the other threads lol
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NightmareX
MAFIA Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2008.08.14 20:26:00 -
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Originally by: Jodie Amille I lol'd even more at the people who took this seriously.  
I also lol to all of those who don't see that i'm just smacking / trolling other trolls in the face. I'm just doing it because it's fun .
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7shining7one7
Don Rico's Massive Rainbow Storage
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Posted - 2008.08.14 20:34:00 -
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Originally by: NightmareX
Originally by: Jodie Amille I lol'd even more at the people who took this seriously.  
I also lol to all of those who don't see that i'm just smacking / trolling other trolls in the face. I'm just doing it because it's fun .
nice attempt of recovery but i don't buy it 
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NightmareX
MAFIA Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2008.08.14 20:35:00 -
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Originally by: 7shining7one7
Originally by: NightmareX
Originally by: Jodie Amille I lol'd even more at the people who took this seriously.  
I also lol to all of those who don't see that i'm just smacking / trolling other trolls in the face. I'm just doing it because it's fun .
nice attempt of recovery but i don't buy it 
Oh, like i haven't done that to all other trolls on this forum for ummmmm many months already .
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Gneeznow
Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.08.14 21:10:00 -
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Originally by: NightmareX
Originally by: 7shining7one7
Originally by: NightmareX
Originally by: Jodie Amille I lol'd even more at the people who took this seriously.  
I also lol to all of those who don't see that i'm just smacking / trolling other trolls in the face. I'm just doing it because it's fun .
nice attempt of recovery but i don't buy it 
Oh, like i haven't done that to all other trolls on this forum for ummmmm many months already .
backpedal harder
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Stebe McKween
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Posted - 2008.08.18 20:58:00 -
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yes medium ac can hit further than 20km easy...its just down to skills:) my vaga..22km fallof was it..? |

goodby4u
Valor Inc.
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Posted - 2008.08.18 22:57:00 -
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Originally by: Co Chee Edited by: Co Chee on 12/08/2008 03:41:06 Troll whines.
Obvious troll buddy.
But let me tell you, if this isnt a troll then you obviously dont understand ccp OR pvp.
CCP aint going to turn their game into crap just because of a demographic, if they would they would have already done that. |

Jessica Fyers
Gallente Azure Horizon
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Posted - 2008.08.18 23:28:00 -
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OP made my day, still laughing as it is 
Great job man, cant wait for your next post! Rock on! |
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