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qPuHuK
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Posted - 2008.08.14 13:46:00 -
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greets,
is there a guide around on this subject or maybe someone would like to write couple of words on the subject please ?
what skills are required for that ? i've heard that vexors are good, preferably at least a gang of couple.
also heard people mentioning 'alpha' strike something. what's that ? and what ships/etc. have the 'most' of it ? :)
thanx :>
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Esu Nahalas
The Night Corporation
RONA Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.14 14:56:00 -
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Most importantly, you should choose a character with the Drama Queen specialization, and train Whining to V as quickly as possible.
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Matalino
Gallente
Ki Tech Industries
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Posted - 2008.08.14 15:07:00 -
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What is there to right a guide about.
You have 10-30 seconds to kill your target before CONCORD takes you out.
So you need to deal enough damage in that time frame or you fail.
Alpha-strike is the measure of how much damage you deal in one volley.
Weapons that have a large alpha-strike typically have a long cycle time and therefor lower DPS over time.
In limited time frames, such as suicide ganking, Alpha-strike can be more significant than average DPS.
Compare a gun that does 40 damage every 3 seconds with a gun that does 100 damage every 8 seconds.
Overtime the rapid firing gun will obviously do more damage than the slower firing gun. However, if you only have 10 seconds to kill your target, the greater alpha-strike is more effective. The rapid firing gun has time for 3 shots, so would deal 120 damage. The slower firing gun has time for 2 shots, so would deal 200 damage.
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Marcus VanNosh
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Posted - 2008.08.14 15:52:00 -
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Can't wait the see the whines from you high-sec gankers when the security status hits get so much worse. Check out the Dev Blog about it at Linkage
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Billy Sastard
Amarr
Life. Universe. Everything.
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Posted - 2008.08.14 16:03:00 -
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Edited by: Billy Sastard on 14/08/2008 16:04:01
 Originally by: Marcus VanNosh
Can't wait the see the whines from you high-sec gankers when the security status hits get so much worse. Check out the Dev Blog about it at Linkage
Why do you have to come troll this post?
It is not like suicide ganking is being removed, it will still be possible, will just take a little bit more firepower and will give more severe sec hits. I know it is not going to stop me. I personally agree that suiciding has gotten a bit too easy when I can kill a hulk with a vexor that cost me less than 5m isk complete. But its not going to stop, there will always be people stupid enough to make themselves a target that is worth the sec hit/ship loss.
-=^=-
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Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.08.14 16:26:00 -
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Originally by: Billy Sastard
Edited by: Billy Sastard on 14/08/2008 16:04:01
Originally by: Marcus VanNosh
Can't wait the see the whines from you high-sec gankers when the security status hits get so much worse. Check out the Dev Blog about it at Linkage
Why do you have to come troll this post?
It is not like suicide ganking is being removed, it will still be possible, will just take a little bit more firepower and will give more severe sec hits. I know it is not going to stop me. I personally agree that suiciding has gotten a bit too easy when I can kill a hulk with a vexor that cost me less than 5m isk complete. But its not going to stop, there will always be people stupid enough to make themselves a target that is worth the sec hit/ship loss.
So long as it require to choose a target instead of "gang anything, you will always get more than you lose", it is ok for me.
For the OP, if you want to do that, test it a little on Sisi (Singularyty, the test server, you will see how to connect in the Game Developement Forum). Killing a ship fast isn't so easy if the target is a least a bit tanked.
Originally by: Gamesguy
the suicide ganking is merely an isk farming activity.
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qPuHuK
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Posted - 2008.08.14 21:08:00 -
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thank you for replies everyone. yes, i am aware of the dev's plans to make suicide ganking more troublesome, yet i'm sure it won't go away :)
personally i'm not really after looting unlucky indys,etc, but what excites me is the fact and opportunity to kill ships worth several dozen mils with a ship that's worth less than 10mil.
can anyone advice me please regarding best ships suitable for such task ? i've already heard about vexors. are those the best ones for the task ? has anyone ever calculated best ship/fit for maxed alpha-strike dps ? i'm really excited about this subject.my main char was into industry for past couple years so for a change i really feel like flying around and blowing things just for the sake of blowing them :)
peace
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charming wanderer
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Posted - 2008.08.14 21:18:00 -
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to get a vexor to enough DPS to suicide sucessfully you need gallente cruiser 5 and extremely good drone skills (4m+). A basic fit would be as follows:
4 named neutron blasters
non named AB, web, scram
4 named magstabs
2 ogres, 2 hammerheads and 1 hobgoblin
For lower SP you will need to go to a more expensive ship, a good candidate for this is a Bruitx as follows:
7 named neutron blasters
MWD/AB, scram, web whatever
1 reactor control, 4 named magstabs
5 hammerheads
There are other options available of course, these are just a couple that I have used and have seen used.
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Betray
Caldari
The Substitutes
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Posted - 2008.08.15 21:34:00 -
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Destroyers are the favorites for suicide ganking:) imho anyways
a lot of guns which means nice dps, u dont need a lot of tank anyways...
and...a nice desty with t2 guns takes just a few days to train if you picked carefully in char selection. which means you can gank with another char instead of ur main, and ask a corp mate to salvage/loot for you. (you have 3 char slots in 1 account, use them!) This way you dont lose standings
although sometimes you might need more than 1 destroyer...
happy ganking
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