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Blastil	Posted - 2008.08.15 01:33:00 - [1] Edited by: Blastil on 15/08/2008 01:35:23 I have come to the point of sheer madness. If I see a kill mail like this thisagain in my corp's kill board, then I am going to start a trend of murdering people IRL as well as podding them. I will make this statement once, and loud and clear- YOU DO NOT FIT A GALENTE BLASTER BOAT WITH A SHIELD TANK AND RAILS! You should never, and will never find such a ship viable, useful, or survivable. sheild tank is for caldari ships, and Minmatar. If you find someone in your alliance who fits these ships, kindly educate them about EVE. I may be a pirate, but even I have standards about what I want to kill... this is not it, and if this trend continues, sacrifices will be made to the Galente blasterboat gods in the manner of burnt spaceships, and the beheading of virgin carebears.
Friedrick Psitalon The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.	Posted - 2008.08.15 01:35:00 - [2] Congratulations. You found a bad, partially fitted ship and killed it. Moving on.....
Viqtoria Caldari Groping Hand Social Club	Posted - 2008.08.15 01:35:00 - [3] the price of bus tickets are going up Please keep your signature on-topic.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.08.15 01:35:00 - [4] Edited by: Akita T on 15/08/2008 01:38:47 So you found a player who NEVER left the NPC corp he was born in and killed his mixed rails/blasters/standard-launcher pathetically "fit" Enyo. And I use that term (fit) rather loosely, seing how except all those weapons he only had one damned module. So, yeah, I'd be much more worried about the 4 EMPTY lowslots (and the empty midslot). In comparison to that, the "shield tank" (rofl) or the usage of rails on that Enyo is nothing. _ THE APPRENTICE \|\| mineral balance \|\| nanofix
Leviathan9 Gallente Royal Hiigaran Navy	Posted - 2008.08.15 01:46:00 - [5] Originally by: Blastil Edited by: Blastil on 15/08/2008 01:35:23 I have come to the point of sheer madness. If I see a kill mail like this thisagain in my corp's kill board, then I am going to start a trend of murdering people IRL as well as podding them. I will make this statement once, and loud and clear- YOU DO NOT FIT A GALENTE BLASTER BOAT WITH A SHIELD TANK AND RAILS! You should never, and will never find such a ship viable, useful, or survivable. sheild tank is for caldari ships, and Minmatar. If you find someone in your alliance who fits these ships, kindly educate them about EVE. I may be a pirate, but even I have standards about what I want to kill... this is not it, and if this trend continues, sacrifices will be made to the Galente blasterboat gods in the manner of burnt spaceships, and the beheading of virgin carebears. Gallente started passive shield tanking. Myrm can get a 970dps passive shield tank. But yeah that setup is fail. ----------------------------
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.08.15 01:53:00 - [6] Originally by: Leviathan9 But yeah that setup is fail. That setup is worse than a Scorpion's right wing, actually _ THE APPRENTICE \|\| mineral balance \|\| nanofix
Blastil	Posted - 2008.08.15 01:57:00 - [7] Originally by: Akita T Edited by: Akita T on 15/08/2008 01:38:47 So you found a player who NEVER left the NPC corp he was born in and killed his mixed rails/blasters/standard-launcher pathetically "fit" Enyo. And I use that term (fit) rather loosely, seing how except all those weapons he only had one damned module. So, yeah, I'd be much more worried about the 4 EMPTY lowslots (and the empty midslot). In comparison to that, the "shield tank" (rofl) or the usage of rails on that Enyo is nothing. yeah, the four missing lows ****ed me off too, but the shield tank problem is bigger at this point. We've also caught a number of sheild tanked throaxes, CIVILIAN shield tanked catalyst... the list goes on. Just about every Galente blaster boat I've caught has been shield tanked in the last month, including a kill today which was a TRIPPLE tanked brutix.... Baby jesus is crying I think...
Akkarin Pagan Minmatar Raddick Explorations BlackWater.	Posted - 2008.08.15 02:38:00 - [8] There is a guy in my corp who does fly blaster boats with rails (but he does armour tank them at least). I would take issue with it, but he does get (good) results from them. That said we did have a girl (alledgedly) who shield tanked a Brutix, and lost it. When questioned on it, she said "But I don't have the skills to armour tank!". She didn't last very long with us after that! Akkarin I don't mean to sound bitter and twisted, but I am, so that's how it comes out. <3 - Immy
Eternal Error Exitus Acta Probant	Posted - 2008.08.15 02:57:00 - [9] I think you forgot an (ingame) after your threats of murder. The rest of the post was pretty worthless so I refuse to comment on it.
Sicil Fioet Minmatar	Posted - 2008.08.15 03:33:00 - [10] err ... not like those players read the forums anyways ...
Artemis Rose Odd End of the Universe	Posted - 2008.08.15 03:34:00 - [11] I like people who shield tank ships that shouldn't be, because they don't tackle __________________________________________________ Currently Playing: Trolls from Outer Space Current Equipment: VISAcard chain mail, +2 Amulet of Epic Whine. WTB Purple Nerf Bat.
Sergeant Spot Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.15 03:35:00 - [12] Actually, Gallente fitted with rails, and Caldari fitted with Blasters work for some crazy people (Beagle was a popular fit for a while, and I've no doubt some folks still fly them). And putting shield modules on a ship with 2 mids and 5 lows is ..... unclever, to put it mildly.... But while I might debate that Blasters "OR" Rails can be used on Gallente and Caldari gun ships, the kill mail you linked had "TWO OF EACH". THAT was pathetic.... Almost as bad as fitting a hull repper. Play nice while you butcher each other.
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar Holy Church Of Garmonism	Posted - 2008.08.15 03:36:00 - [13] Originally by: Eternal Error I think you forgot an (ingame) after your threats of murder. The rest of the post was pretty worthless so I refuse to comment on it. You have to be a follower to do that You're not afraid of the dark, are you?
techzer0 Minmatar Mafia	Posted - 2008.08.15 03:38:00 - [14] Hey, you stole my setup. ------------ CCP > Let's play the nerf a race game! Next up minmatar!
Ekrid	Posted - 2008.08.15 03:56:00 - [15] Originally by: Akkarin Pagan There is a guy in my corp who does fly blaster boats with rails (but he does armour tank them at least). I would take issue with it, but he does get (good) results from them. That said we did have a girl (alledgedly) who shield tanked a Brutix, and lost it. When questioned on it, she said "But I don't have the skills to armour tank!". She didn't last very long with us after that! Akkarin wtf is wrong with all you people. hybrid weapon bonuses are hybrid weapon bonuses. The ship doesnt say +25% damage to blasters does it??? A hybrid is a blaster OR a rail. you people in your ignorance make me sick. I just vomited on my keyboard because rueof alel odf ytou. thghx as liotr.
notaforumalt Minmatar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2008.08.15 04:00:00 - [16] Originally by: Blastil Edited by: Blastil on 15/08/2008 01:35:23 YOU DO NOT FIT A GALENTE BLASTER BOAT WITH A SHIELD TANK AND RAILS! You should never, and will never find such a ship viable, useful, or survivable. ishtar can shield tank very very well, but you lose all forms of tackle. __________________________________________________ this is my sig, and i am not an alt hides
Blastil	Posted - 2008.08.15 05:23:00 - [17] Originally by: Ekrid wtf is wrong with all you people. hybrid weapon bonuses are hybrid weapon bonuses. The ship doesnt say +25% damage to blasters does it??? A hybrid is a blaster OR a rail. you people in your ignorance make me sick. I just vomited on my keyboard because rueof alel odf ytou. thghx as liotr. Dude- first off, there ARE bonuses to blasters only. Like "falloff" is really a blaster specific bonus since blasters are the only real guns that use falloff. Rails more or less hit something, or they don't. the falloff bonus is pretty damn useless. Any ship without a falloff bonus can still be a blaster boat, but its not a smart idea. but all that asside, the OP is about SHIELD TANKING galente blaster boats which have like 3 mids anyway (or less) barely allowing for a good cap and tackle combo.there are galent ships that can shield tank, sure, but they're rare, and have 5 midslots or so.
sableye principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.08.15 05:28:00 - [18] Edited by: sableye on 15/08/2008 05:31:06 nothing wrong with using rails on whats supposdly a blaster boat I use rails on an enyo, megathron, hyperion, diemos, taranis,phoebus ect. Its pretty effective if you ask me considering how crappy blasters are the rails are the safer option or effectivness on most occasions. Join The Fight With Promo Today View The North Star!
Dahak2150 Chaos Monkeys	Posted - 2008.08.15 05:37:00 - [19] Originally by: Ekrid Originally by: Akkarin Pagan There is a guy in my corp who does fly blaster boats with rails (but he does armour tank them at least). I would take issue with it, but he does get (good) results from them. That said we did have a girl (alledgedly) who shield tanked a Brutix, and lost it. When questioned on it, she said "But I don't have the skills to armour tank!". She didn't last very long with us after that! Akkarin wtf is wrong with all you people. hybrid weapon bonuses are hybrid weapon bonuses. The ship doesnt say +25% damage to blasters does it??? A hybrid is a blaster OR a rail. you people in your ignorance make me sick. I just vomited on my keyboard because rueof alel odf ytou. thghx as liotr. Why don't you shield tank a Vengeance about it?
mishkof Caldari Finis Lumen	Posted - 2008.08.15 05:38:00 - [20] Originally by: sableye Edited by: sableye on 15/08/2008 05:31:06 nothing wrong with using rails on whats supposdly a blaster boat I use rails on an enyo, megathron, hyperion, diemos, taranis,phoebus ect. Its pretty effective if you ask me considering how crappy blasters are the rails are the safer option or effectivness on most occasions. Agree with the IAC guy. All EFT warriors. Rails work on "blasterboats" like the mega. Many fights are at ranges that blasters simply arent a reliable option for. Especially with the presense of nanos it makes it hard to fight within a 20 KM range of your ship...noone likes web or even neut range to much. In this day in age if you wish to get on a majority of the KMs(with actual dmg...not 0 dmg meaning you just locked them and werent worth a shit otherwise)you needs rails IMO. Blasters = solo Rails = anything other then solo IMO. I own a T2 BPO and Capital alt, therefor all of my views will be pro-Capital Alt/T2 BPO orientated. Please pick one of the following settings for your response. []hate me []troll me []smack me
Ekrid	Posted - 2008.08.15 05:38:00 - [21] Originally by: Dahak2150 Originally by: Ekrid Originally by: Akkarin Pagan There is a guy in my corp who does fly blaster boats with rails (but he does armour tank them at least). I would take issue with it, but he does get (good) results from them. That said we did have a girl (alledgedly) who shield tanked a Brutix, and lost it. When questioned on it, she said "But I don't have the skills to armour tank!". She didn't last very long with us after that! Akkarin wtf is wrong with all you people. hybrid weapon bonuses are hybrid weapon bonuses. The ship doesnt say +25% damage to blasters does it??? A hybrid is a blaster OR a rail. you people in your ignorance make me sick. I just vomited on my keyboard because rueof alel odf ytou. thghx as liotr. Why don't you shield tank a Vengeance about it? only if you agree to die in a fire irl.
Ekrid	Posted - 2008.08.15 05:41:00 - [22] Originally by: Blastil Originally by: Ekrid wtf is wrong with all you people. hybrid weapon bonuses are hybrid weapon bonuses. The ship doesnt say +25% damage to blasters does it??? A hybrid is a blaster OR a rail. you people in your ignorance make me sick. I just vomited on my keyboard because rueof alel odf ytou. thghx as liotr. Dude- first off, there ARE bonuses to blasters only. Like "falloff" is really a blaster specific bonus since blasters are the only real guns that use falloff. Rails more or less hit something, or they don't. the falloff bonus is pretty damn useless. Any ship without a falloff bonus can still be a blaster boat, but its not a smart idea. but all that asside, the OP is about SHIELD TANKING galente blaster boats which have like 3 mids anyway (or less) barely allowing for a good cap and tackle combo.there are galent ships that can shield tank, sure, but they're rare, and have 5 midslots or so. holy F'ing sh**. you did NOT just say that falloff is pointless to railguns. tracking guide. larger falloff means better hit percentages and better damage on hit. The tracking guide (made by CCP) says you fail. gtfo.
sableye principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.08.15 05:48:00 - [23] Originally by: Blastil Originally by: Ekrid wtf is wrong with all you people. hybrid weapon bonuses are hybrid weapon bonuses. The ship doesnt say +25% damage to blasters does it??? A hybrid is a blaster OR a rail. you people in your ignorance make me sick. I just vomited on my keyboard because rueof alel odf ytou. thghx as liotr. Dude- first off, there ARE bonuses to blasters only. Like "falloff" is really a blaster specific bonus since blasters are the only real guns that use falloff. Rails more or less hit something, or they don't. the falloff bonus is pretty damn useless. Any ship without a falloff bonus can still be a blaster boat, but its not a smart idea. but all that asside, the OP is about SHIELD TANKING galente blaster boats which have like 3 mids anyway (or less) barely allowing for a good cap and tackle combo.there are galent ships that can shield tank, sure, but they're rare, and have 5 midslots or so. its the fall of bonus that makes rails on these ships more viable I will grant that an optimal range bonus is better for longer range weapons but don't go around thinking a fall off bonus is a kick in the teeth either also because alot of supposdly blaster boats get a tracking boost it makes rails even more effective for mid range fighting where rails would normally not be as good. Join The Fight With Promo Today View The North Star!
Blastil	Posted - 2008.08.15 05:54:00 - [24] Originally by: sableye its the fall of bonus that makes rails on these ships more viable I will grant that an optimal range bonus is better for longer range weapons but don't go around thinking a fall off bonus is a kick in the teeth either also because alot of supposdly blaster boats get a tracking boost it makes rails even more effective for mid range fighting where rails would normally not be as good. where the hell ELSE are rails good for anyway? They don't hit further than 40 KM unless you have a dedicated sniper class ship. I'll admit to the fact that fall off can be helpful, but a ship with ONLY a falloff bonus is going to have to rely on its mids for targeting boosters, and tracking mods. Rails have their place to be sure, also, all this talk about solo PVP and group pvp. This was part of a pair of AF's that engaged a CRUISER, and BOTH died they were so fail fit... the caracal was fine.
sableye principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.08.15 06:04:00 - [25] Originally by: Blastil Originally by: sableye its the fall of bonus that makes rails on these ships more viable I will grant that an optimal range bonus is better for longer range weapons but don't go around thinking a fall off bonus is a kick in the teeth either also because alot of supposdly blaster boats get a tracking boost it makes rails even more effective for mid range fighting where rails would normally not be as good. where the hell ELSE are rails good for anyway? They don't hit further than 40 KM unless you have a dedicated sniper class ship. I'll admit to the fact that fall off can be helpful, but a ship with ONLY a falloff bonus is going to have to rely on its mids for targeting boosters, and tracking mods. Rails have their place to be sure, also, all this talk about solo PVP and group pvp. This was part of a pair of AF's that engaged a CRUISER, and BOTH died they were so fail fit... the caracal was fine. well that linked one was a fitting ailure or sure but not really caused it used rails (in fact taking into account rest of its set-up the raisl where the best part :) ) but because it mixed its weapons up and as far as I can tell it had 5 slots without any fittings at all, would love to know what was going through there head when they sat in station fitting this little beuty for combat. Join The Fight With Promo Today View The North Star!
Prof Patpending Warp badgers with guns	Posted - 2008.08.15 06:07:00 - [26] Everyone should calm down and look at this from the top. First question: who the hell lies assault frigates anyway? Surely there are less stupid ways to throw isk away?
WAuter Gallente	Posted - 2008.08.15 12:25:00 - [27] Edited by: WAuter on 15/08/2008 12:30:20 Edited by: WAuter on 15/08/2008 12:29:43 what about this? http://www.gallente.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=41352

Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire	Posted - 2008.08.15 12:29:00 - [28] Imagine everyone fitting their ships "correctly", you'd all then be whining about not being able to kill each other. Be thankful for the poor-fitted ships, they make the world spin. Secure 3rd party service ■ Do you Veldspar?

Sheriff Jones Amarr Please Enter Password	Posted - 2008.08.15 12:30:00 - [29] shieldtanks his impairor and goes Blastil-hunting My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
123GuessWho	Posted - 2008.08.15 12:37:00 - [30] U killzed a noobz?

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