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Herateis
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Posted - 2008.08.15 03:33:00 -
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but Assault frigates get slightly more damage, defense, and less speed?
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Artemis Rose
Odd End of the Universe
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Posted - 2008.08.15 03:36:00 -
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I'd say certain ships (Hawk and Harpy) have much improved tanks and damage output (respectively) than their t1 counterparts. __________________________________________________
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techzer0
Minmatar Mafia
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Posted - 2008.08.15 03:39:00 -
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My harpy does more DPS than my Onyx... meh?  ------------ CCP > Let's play the nerf a race game! Next up minmatar! |

Ruze
Amarr No Applicable Corporation
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Posted - 2008.08.15 03:47:00 -
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Because the Heavy Assault Ship seems to be both interceptor AND assault ship, for some reason.
You can't blame the players for using them as such. If there was an interceptor variant of the cruiser? Maybe some type of 'Light Assault Cruiser', with better DPS and much greater speed than the T1 counterpart ...
But, what we end up is one ship class meant to 'do it all', so to speak. And now being nerfed because players were using it too much. Again, can't blame the players so much.
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techzer0
Minmatar Mafia
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Posted - 2008.08.15 03:49:00 -
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Originally by: Ruze Because the Heavy Assault Ship seems to be both interceptor AND assault ship, for some reason.
You can't blame the players for using them as such. If there was an interceptor variant of the cruiser? Maybe some type of 'Light Assault Cruiser', with better DPS and much greater speed than the T1 counterpart ...
Ever flown a stabber or Vaga? they are pretty "light"
I hardly call 3-5km/s fast... i just call the people not fitting MWDs that can't catch them "not fast enough"  ------------ CCP > Let's play the nerf a race game! Next up minmatar! |

Ruze
Amarr No Applicable Corporation
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Posted - 2008.08.15 03:59:00 -
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It's really the resistances, over pure armor. I personally feel that speed tanking should be a valid option. The Vaga is definitely suited for it. But when you add those same resistances with it, eh ...
Course, I'm not sure why each race has to have each class of ship, you know? What would be wrong with Minmatar having two light assault cruisers, while Amarr have two heavy, and Caldari and Gallente one of each, or whatnot?
Bah, doesn't matter, and not really important to the ops post ;?j
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar Holy Church Of Garmonism
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Posted - 2008.08.15 04:15:00 -
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Because Ironically "heavy" carries a lot of weight! 
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Kraleak
Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.08.15 04:37:00 -
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Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Because Ironically "heavy" carries a lot of weight! 
Because the Heavy in Heavy Assault Cruisers isn't a prefix at all and inclines that it should be heavy, and not a 'Heavy Assault' Cruiser. If it was meant to be heavy, it would be 'Assault' Heavy Cruiser or some such random.
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Ruze
Amarr No Applicable Corporation
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Posted - 2008.08.15 04:40:00 -
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Well, to get technical, it's 'Heavy Assault Ship', while the frigate is 'Assault Ship'. So the heavy could just mean 'larger than a frigate'.
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Saietor Blackgreen
The First Foundation SOLAR FLEET
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Posted - 2008.08.15 05:25:00 -
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It is assault that is heavy, not the cruiser in that "Heavy Assault Cruiser" name.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.08.15 05:27:00 -
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Who needs a hac when you can fly a plate rupture 
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Blastil
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Posted - 2008.08.15 05:27:00 -
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depends on the HAC. Deimos gets ridiculous bonuses to DPS but less to speed and defense.
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Prof Patpending
Warp badgers with guns
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Posted - 2008.08.15 06:16:00 -
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Yeah this really bothers me. Why does a ship that costs about 10 times as much as the ship its based on have better speed/defences/firepower. Its a mystery.
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Jim Raynor
Caldari Shinra
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Posted - 2008.08.15 06:30:00 -
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I dunno it's kinda messed up to me that assault ships are slower than heavy assault ships. ------ I'll make a sig later. |

techzer0
Minmatar Mafia
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Posted - 2008.08.15 06:32:00 -
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Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton Who needs a hac when you can fly a plate rupture 
You can't even fly one!  
(or can you now?) ------------ CCP > Let's play the nerf a race game! Next up minmatar! |

techzer0
Minmatar Mafia
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Posted - 2008.08.15 06:34:00 -
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Originally by: Prof Patpending Yeah this really bothers me. Why does a ship that costs about 10 times as much as the ship its based on have better speed/defences/firepower. Its a mystery.
That is so confusing and makes no sense at all, I mean what... WHY WOULD THE DEVS MAKE IT SOOOO HARD TO UNDERSTAND!?!?!?
Can CCP please explain why?  ------------ CCP > Let's play the nerf a race game! Next up minmatar! |

Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.08.15 07:16:00 -
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Originally by: techzer0
Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton Who needs a hac when you can fly a plate rupture 
You can't even fly one!  
(or can you now?)
sadly no, 
working on all gunnery skills to 5, sentry drone op 5, cybernetics 5, that kinda stuff, after that its minmatar time 
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Joss Sparq
Caldari ANZAC ALLIANCE Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.15 07:19:00 -
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It ain't heavy, it's my crooooo-ser! 
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Synapse Archae
Amarr Demonic Retribution Un-Natural Selection
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Posted - 2008.08.15 07:26:00 -
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Because AFs are FUBAR and have no role.
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Tippia
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.08.15 07:45:00 -
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…and does this still hold true after the 40% weight drops poposed for AFs in the patch?
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.08.15 07:53:00 -
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Originally by: Synapse Archae Because AFs are FUBAR and have no role.
pretty much well said.
t1 cruiser is pretty much cheaper and does the same job, (and is slightly slower)
well I suppose af can hit intys, but after the speed nerf **** it, cruisers can use warrior IIs
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