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hired goon Infinite Improbability Inc Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2008.08.15 11:40:00 - [1] First, in 2005, I was like omg. Then, last year, I was like lol. Yesterday I was like lmfao AV IT! Discuss. -omg-
Great Artista Caldari Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2008.08.15 11:48:00 - [2] This still means nothing for an ordinary pirate like [.u]someone[./u] and [.i]someone[./i]. Ninja-edit: Aguess I messed up the formats there. _______ ◕◡◕
F'nog Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Celestial Industrial Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.15 12:08:00 - [3] Originally by: Great Artista This still means nothing for an ordinary pirate like [.u]someone[./u] and [.i]someone[./i]. Ninja-edit: Aguess I messed up the formats there. And yet you didn't correct them... Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said Originally by: Chribba Go F'nog! You're a hero! Not a Zero! /me bows
Slade Trillgon Siorai Iontach	Posted - 2008.08.15 12:22:00 - [4] "Most of the people subjected to these secret suits do not learn that they have been ôsuedö until demand is made for payment by the record companiesÆ lawyers or Settlement Support Center....." Has the court system forgotten about out Constitutional right to Due Process? F*ck the Record Labels and their Distributors. Slade DesuSigs
Liranan M'8'S Frontal Impact	Posted - 2008.08.15 14:14:00 - [5] Originally by: Slade Trillgon "Most of the people subjected to these secret suits do not learn that they have been ôsuedö until demand is made for payment by the record companiesÆ lawyers or Settlement Support Center....." Has the court system forgotten about out Constitutional right to Due Process? Fck the Record Labels and their Distributors. Slade LOL Slade, please give me an example of something that the US as a whole is doing that is according to the constitution. Back on topic. I read this in Dailytech and I was so proud. She is going for their throats and it is well within her rights to do so. Those RIAA and MPAA need to be podded right back to 30k SP levels to put it in EVE perspectives. Out of EVE it means they need to be shot. Farjung is my God*
Valmeir Amarr Vox de Lucis	Posted - 2008.08.15 14:34:00 - [6] RIAA use hax!!1!1 Ban them from things.
Istvaan Shogaatsu Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club	Posted - 2008.08.15 15:28:00 - [7] Now, if only there was a way to give cancer to anyone who works for RIAA...
Eternal Error Exitus Acta Probant	Posted - 2008.08.15 15:37:00 - [8] Originally by: Liranan Originally by: Slade Trillgon "Most of the people subjected to these secret suits do not learn that they have been ôsuedö until demand is made for payment by the record companiesÆ lawyers or Settlement Support Center....." Has the court system forgotten about out Constitutional right to Due Process? Fck the Record Labels and their Distributors. Slade LOL Slade, please give me an example of something that the US as a whole is doing that is according to the constitution. Back on topic. I read this in Dailytech and I was so proud. She is going for their throats and it is well within her rights to do so. Those RIAA and MPAA need to be podded right back to 30k SP levels to put it in EVE perspectives. Out of EVE it means they need to be shot. There's an election coming up for starters. Anyway, glad she got her legal fees paid. It would've been ***ing ridiculous if she didn't. Frivolous lawsuits are killing america (hey, you know that socialized medicine everyone wants? You know that we wouldn't need it if drug prices weren't 2985729587298572895 dollars a pill because of all the lawsuits over them), and legal fees should be paid by the loser. Isn't that how it works in Britain?
Wendat Huron Stellar Solutions	Posted - 2008.08.15 16:44:00 - [9] So what the hell is RIAAAA? These forums are FUBAR, upgrade this decade!
Valmeir Amarr Vox de Lucis	Posted - 2008.08.15 16:47:00 - [10] Originally by: Wendat Huron So what the hell is RIAAAA? Recording Industry According to America i joke. i joke. Recording Industry Association of America
Liranan M'8'S Frontal Impact	Posted - 2008.08.15 17:01:00 - [11] Edited by: Liranan on 15/08/2008 17:02:57 Originally by: Eternal Error There's an election coming up for starters. Anyway, glad she got her legal fees paid. It would've been **ing ridiculous if she didn't. Frivolous lawsuits are killing america (hey, you know that socialized medicine everyone wants? You know that we wouldn't need it if drug prices weren't 2985729587298572895 dollars a pill because of all the lawsuits over them), and legal fees should be paid by the loser. Isn't that how it works in Britain? I don't live in Britain so your reference to Britain is somewhat daft. Other than that prices of medicine is high due to price fixing and monopoly. AIDS medication cost 50 Cents (USD Cents) to manufacture but are sold for a lot higher because there aren't many manufacturers and they can charge for it. Patenting doesn't work in Europe the way it does in the US so prices are a LOT, and I repeat a LOT, lower due to generic drugs. Also It's interesting that you mentioned that greatest fear the US have, that great evil socialised medicine. It's cheaper for manufacturers to produce in Canada because they have a better healthcare system than the US but don't let that worry you. Farjung is my God**
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.15 17:23:00 - [12] Originally by: Liranan Edited by: Liranan on 15/08/2008 17:02:57 Originally by: Eternal Error There's an election coming up for starters. Anyway, glad she got her legal fees paid. It would've been **ing ridiculous if she didn't. Frivolous lawsuits are killing america (hey, you know that socialized medicine everyone wants? You know that we wouldn't need it if drug prices weren't 2985729587298572895 dollars a pill because of all the lawsuits over them), and legal fees should be paid by the loser. Isn't that how it works in Britain? I don't live in Britain so your reference to Britain is somewhat daft. Other than that prices of medicine is high due to price fixing and monopoly. AIDS medication cost 50 Cents (USD Cents) to manufacture but are sold for a lot higher because there aren't many manufacturers and they can charge for it. Patenting doesn't work in Europe the way it does in the US so prices are a LOT, and I repeat a LOT, lower due to generic drugs. Also It's interesting that you mentioned that greatest fear the US have, that great evil socialised medicine. It's cheaper for manufacturers to produce in Canada because they have a better healthcare system than the US but don't let that worry you. I believe he meant "losers of lawsuits should pay for both parties' legal fees- isn't that how it works in Britain?". And he is basically right- in the vast majority of private litigation, the loser pays all legal fees. That really makes a company think twice before attempting to sue someone who's done nothing wrong... ------ Originally by:** Micheal Dietrich You can even get a midget with a camera to sit on the floorboard.
Taelech Caldari Caldari Design and Cryogenics	Posted - 2008.08.15 17:41:00 - [13] Could just give the pharmcos protection from lawsuits in exchange for price controls... that would bring down prices. And the AIDS drugs that cost $.50 to manufacture costs millions to develop. Gotta look at the total product lifecycle. I'm the first to admit that America has a screwed up healthcare system, but I'm also the first to admit that there is no easy fixing it. Sigh... where is George's magic wand? Taelech - Professor emeritus - Caldari Business Tribunal School of Law
Joseph 9 Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2008.08.15 17:45:00 - [14] Originally by: Taelech Could just give the pharmcos protection from lawsuits in exchange for price controls... that would bring down prices. And the AIDS drugs that cost $.50 to manufacture costs millions to develop. Gotta look at the total product lifecycle Agreed, the majority cost for medical treatments comes largely from development, trials and setting up a production line, cost per pil from raw material to sitting in a tub in a chemist is a small part of the equation. And down with the RIAA and their ilk. They make a mockery of the concept that legal systems are for providing justice with their heavy handed bullying lawsuites.
Eternal Error Exitus Acta Probant	Posted - 2008.08.15 18:12:00 - [15] Originally by: Liranan Edited by: Liranan on 15/08/2008 17:02:57 Originally by: Eternal Error There's an election coming up for starters. Anyway, glad she got her legal fees paid. It would've been ****ing ridiculous if she didn't. Frivolous lawsuits are killing america (hey, you know that socialized medicine everyone wants? You know that we wouldn't need it if drug prices weren't 2985729587298572895 dollars a pill because of all the lawsuits over them), and legal fees should be paid by the loser. Isn't that how it works in Britain? I don't live in Britain so your reference to Britain is somewhat daft. Other than that prices of medicine is high due to price fixing and monopoly. AIDS medication cost 50 Cents (USD Cents) to manufacture but are sold for a lot higher because there aren't many manufacturers and they can charge for it. Patenting doesn't work in Europe the way it does in the US so prices are a LOT, and I repeat a LOT, lower due to generic drugs. Also It's interesting that you mentioned that greatest fear the US have, that great evil socialised medicine. It's cheaper for manufacturers to produce in Canada because they have a better healthcare system than the US but don't let that worry you. I was referencing Britain in general, not about you. And you're wrong on the drugs. They're sold a lot higher because the research and development costs MILLIONS and they have to recoup that cost. They also take a lot of costs in the form of FDA testing that takes a ridiculous amount of time, and they need to be able to ward off the inevitable lawsuits because everyone sues over everything and gets awarded a ridiculous amount of money.
libertarian cole	Posted - 2008.08.16 00:18:00 - [16] Originally by: Eternal Error Originally by: Liranan Edited by: Liranan on 15/08/2008 17:02:57 Originally by: Eternal Error There's an election coming up for starters. Anyway, glad she got her legal fees paid. It would've been ****ing ridiculous if she didn't. Frivolous lawsuits are killing america (hey, you know that socialized medicine everyone wants? You know that we wouldn't need it if drug prices weren't 2985729587298572895 dollars a pill because of all the lawsuits over them), and legal fees should be paid by the loser. Isn't that how it works in Britain? I don't live in Britain so your reference to Britain is somewhat daft. Other than that prices of medicine is high due to price fixing and monopoly. AIDS medication cost 50 Cents (USD Cents) to manufacture but are sold for a lot higher because there aren't many manufacturers and they can charge for it. Patenting doesn't work in Europe the way it does in the US so prices are a LOT, and I repeat a LOT, lower due to generic drugs. Also It's interesting that you mentioned that greatest fear the US have, that great evil socialised medicine. It's cheaper for manufacturers to produce in Canada because they have a better healthcare system than the US but don't let that worry you. I was referencing Britain in general, not about you. And you're wrong on the drugs. They're sold a lot higher because the research and development costs MILLIONS and they have to recoup that cost. They also take a lot of costs in the form of FDA testing that takes a ridiculous amount of time, and they need to be able to ward off the inevitable lawsuits because everyone sues over everything and gets awarded a ridiculous amount of money. Not to mention the FDA testing requirements often add TIME to the development process meaning the drug companies may only have 5 years instead of 10 to recoup their costs (not to mention the MILLIONS of lives that have been lost because drugs were kept to long in development to meet overly strict FDA requirements).
Liranan M'8'S Frontal Impact	Posted - 2008.08.16 01:45:00 - [17] I keep forgetting that the FDA and US = world, stupid me . AIDS drugs were an example, even aspirine costs more in the US than Europe but yes aspirine needs developement (lobby, patent) so I can imagine that it costs more. Farjung is my God
goodby4u Valor Inc.	Posted - 2008.08.16 02:02:00 - [18] Edited by: goodby4u on 16/08/2008 02:02:12 RIAA got owned.
Dr Slaughter Minmatar Rabies Inc.	Posted - 2008.08.16 22:58:00 - [19] Edited by: Dr Slaughter on 16/08/2008 22:59:41 Originally by: Eternal Error Isn't that how it works in Britain? To be honest the word 'works' and 'Britain' in the same sentence is a little strong. My cynicism aside (really), we are also screwed by the health companies but, we are more screwed, and on a very regular basis by our unelected ex-politicians and their mates who seem to hold all the key management jobs across the fabric of the UK's public sector infrastructure. Good on that woman and I hope she can go all the way and extract a pound of flash from them (edit: the RIAA that is)
mamolian Madhatters Inc. Pure.	Posted - 2008.08.17 01:50:00 - [20] You go girl! -----------
Victor Vision Amarr Central Intelligence Service	Posted - 2008.08.17 03:43:00 - [21] Everyone despises of the RIAA. I am not sure if they are doing the large labels a good service by dragging their names through the mud. EVE War I-The Beginning - EVE History Wiki
Slade Trillgon Siorai Iontach	Posted - 2008.08.17 05:07:00 - [22] Originally by: Liranan LOL Slade, please give me an example of something that the US as a whole is doing that is according to the constitution. You joke on my statment Originally by: Liranan She is going for their throats and it is well within her rights to do so. Then you say this. I am the one laughing now Slade DesuSigs
pwnedgato	Posted - 2008.08.17 05:12:00 - [23] Edited by: pwnedgato on 17/08/2008 05:12:57 By within her rights he means it is not disallowed. Nowhere in the constitution does it say people have the right to retaliation against other people and groups. Protection from? Yes.
Dantes Revenge Caldari	Posted - 2008.08.17 10:35:00 - [24] Originally by: pwnedgato Edited by: pwnedgato on 17/08/2008 05:12:57 By within her rights he means it is not disallowed. Nowhere in the constitution does it say people have the right to retaliation against other people and groups. Protection from? Yes. The constitution says that you have a right to "due process". That means, if a company is taking you to court for any reason, they are obliged by law to declare their intentions in order for you to appear in your defence if you so wish. Taking court action against you without notifying you is against the constitution as they are denying you the right to 'due process'. Under the circumstances, she does have the right to retaliate legally since she was the victim of an illegal action. I just wish it was that cut and dry in the UK, it would save a lot of problems we have with companies taking covert legal action against people. Here, it's just letters threatening court action then a court appointed bailiff arrives demanding money or they take your stuff. No notification of where and when the court case will be before the baliffs arrive so you can never defend yourself in court against them. I make a point of writing back to anyone who demands money from me if I think their demands are unjustified. I insist that the court hearing take place within a reasonable distance from my home town and demand notification of the time and date. Failure to do the above will result in me approaching the court and getting the debt quashed on grounds that they have deliberately prevented me from appearing in my own defence. On most occasions, it's the last I ever hear from them because they know they are going to lose in court if I am there to give evidence. I've even backed off BT using that tactic when they tried to sue me for ú200 for a cancelled contract that I never even had with them, I was with Post Office Telephones and not BT. BT owns the telephone lines and you have to get BT to activate the lines to have another company take them over which is what I did. BT assumed that I was taking out a contract but I expressly stated that Post Office Telephones would be taking over the line as soon as it was activated, threfore I didn't want a contract with BT. -- There's a simple difference between kinky and perverted. Kinky is using a feather to get her in the mood. Perverted is using the whole chicken.
Slade Trillgon Siorai Iontach	Posted - 2008.08.17 13:12:00 - [25] Originally by: Dantes Revenge Originally by: pwnedgato Edited by: pwnedgato on 17/08/2008 05:12:57 By within her rights he means it is not disallowed. Nowhere in the constitution does it say people have the right to retaliation against other people and groups. Protection from? Yes. The constitution says that you have a right to "due process". That means, if a company is taking you to court for any reason, they are obliged by law to declare their intentions in order for you to appear in your defence if you so wish. Taking court action against you without notifying you is against the constitution as they are denying you the right to 'due process'. Under the circumstances, she does have the right to retaliate legally since she was the victim of an illegal action. Thank you Dantes. I was to drunk and tired to reply to another post last night. You made my point perfectly. Slade DesuSigs
Great Artista Caldari Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2008.08.17 18:50:00 - [26] Originally by: F'nog Originally by: Great Artista This still means nothing for an ordinary pirate like [.u]someone[./u] and [.i]someone[./i]. Ninja-edit: Aguess I messed up the formats there. And yet you didn't correct them... Meh, I even added clues for the joke... _______ ◕◡◕

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