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amarri victari
SS-20
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Posted - 2011.09.22 14:19:00 -
[31] - Quote
some require further explanation of my answer so as not to mis-represent me.
3 choices are insufficient in some subjective instances.
1 YES
2 COSMETIC ONLY
3 AURUM, NEX STORE (MAKE THEM ISK / MARKET DRIVEN FFS)
4 NO (PLEX COST IS HIGHER THAN WHAT MOST DEEM A MICROTRANSACTION. CCP HAS NOT IMPLEMENTED MICRO TRANSACTIONS WITH NEX STORE)
5 YES
6 NO (WHY SHOULD IT UNLESS YOU SELL 'GOLD AMMO')
7 NO (GTC YES - YOU NEED TO DISTINGUISH - TERMINOLOGY IS CRITICAL)
8 NO
9 YES (TO WASTE FREE AURUM)
10 NO
11 NO
12 MAYBE (TOUGH TO TELL WITH NDA AND DOCTORED MINUTES - I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH 'MICRO' TRANSACTIONS AND I DO NOT BELEIVE WE NEED A NEX/ AUR MIX - HAS THE CSM PRESENTED THE CASE AGAINST NEX /AUR FOR A MARKET/ISK POSITION? I HAVE NOT SEEN IT WRITTEN DEFINITAVELY)
13 NO
14 NOT SURE (ILLOGICAL PHRASING OF QUESTION - SURELY WE TRAIN ALL THE TIME - DO YOU MEAN TO INJECT A SKILL?)
15 YES |
Usurpine
GDC Holding
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
4
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Posted - 2011.09.22 15:15:00 -
[32] - Quote
1) No
2) None
4) No
5) Yes
6) No
7) Yes
8) No
9) No
10) No
11) No
12) not sure
13) No
14) Yes
15) Yes |
Herping yourDerp
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
74
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Posted - 2011.09.22 16:01:00 -
[33] - Quote
1 not sure
2 cosmetic
3 aurum, NEX store
4 no
5 no
6 no
7 yes
8 hell no
9 no
10 no
11 no
12 no
13 no
14 no
15 yes |
Sapphire Fangborn
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.09.24 01:54:00 -
[34] - Quote
1) YES
2) Those that give an Ingame Advantage (slight) + Cosmetic too
3) None of the above
4) YES
5) YES
6) NOT SURE
7) NO
8) NO
9) NO
10) NO
11) YES
12) NOT SURE
13) YES
14) YES
15) NO - tried but this acct was too new |
Che Biko
Humanitarian Communists
4
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Posted - 2011.09.24 16:05:00 -
[35] - Quote
1) Not Sure
2) Cosmetic Only
3) Aurum
4) Not Sure
5) Yes
6) No
7) No
8) No
9) No
10) No
11) No
12) No
13) Yes
14) Yes
15) Yes |
Endovior
Shockwave Innovations
RED Citizens
0
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Posted - 2011.09.25 06:18:00 -
[36] - Quote
1) Yes
2) Cosmetic Only
3) None
4) No
5) Not Sure
6) No
7) Yes
8) No
9) No
10) No
11) Not Sure
12) Yes
13) Yes
14) Not Sure
15) Yes |
JamesCLK
Red Mist Ltd
4
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Posted - 2011.09.26 16:34:00 -
[37] - Quote
1. Not sure.
2. Cosmetic only.
3. Aurum; The NeX Store. *1
4. No. *2
5. No. *3
6. No. *4
7. Yes. *5
8. No.
9. No - saving my free AUR for a new synthetic right eye 
10. No - but I might once their ISK value is actually remotely acceptable.
11. Yes - but with good reason. CCP didn't exactly help the situation at the time.
12. Yes - I wouldn't trust Mittens or any of the CSM with my wallet, but I do trust them with my opinion.
13. Not sure. *6
14. Yes - We already pay CCP with our immortal souls to get turned into backstabbing dirty stinky pirates! 
15. Yes - On multiple occasions, more people should vote IMHO.
* 1: Replacing the NEX and AUR with player producable clothing would have been a better option; if CCP NEEDED microtransactions in the mix, make the materials to produce these clothes exchangable for PLEX, and give more of them to people that bought the materials directly with $ ???
Don't hang/burn me for this; it was a spur of the moment thought. 
*2: You are paying for someone else's subscription and they give you ISK in exchange - no extra ISK is injected into the economy because of PLEX. Just ask Akita'T - she knows all this stuff better than I do 
*3: While PLEX can be seen as fast cash, they are a two sided deal. You need someone to buy the PLEX from you to get the ISK. Additionally, 350 million ISK in today's EVE Online is not a great deal apparently. 
*4: EVE cannot live off microtransactions; however I believe the EVE trial could be extended to 21 days with a full 30 days on a buddy invite; 14 days is not enough to really experience any part of EVE that might make you stay. 
*5: I once bought two PLEX when I began playing - years ago. At least 1/2 of the 750 million ISK from the PLEX I sold on the market is still in my wallet to this day (every ISK wasted hurts like a knifestab to the heart  ).
*6. It's a wierd question, because you can only buy characters legitimately with ISK. If you got that ISK through PLEX, should the same argument not apply to the character? Someone took the time to train this character before you bought it; it wasn't just created out of thin air afterall... I'm leaning towards a 'no', but it's almost more of an ethical debate since one person can have more than one account...
They still need to pay for that account though, either with $ or PLEX.
Finally: Bump for great justice  |
Vixxen Sparkledust
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2011.09.26 17:49:00 -
[38] - Quote
1) YES
2) Those that give Ingame Advantage AND Cosmetic (non-military advantages like faster highsec travel and faster mining cycles)
3) None of the above
4) YES
5) YES
6) NOT SURE
7) NO
8) NO - not yet
9) NO
10) NO
11) YES
12) NOT SURE
13) YES
14) YES
15) NO
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Alejan Gerakh
Clan Hyena
4
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Posted - 2011.09.26 18:27:00 -
[39] - Quote
Cyprus Black wrote:My main beef with these "microtransactions" is that there's nothing micro about them. Many of the items for sale in the NEX cost more than the EvE game itself. Many of the clothing items for sale cost more than RL clothing.
This is rather funny, considering what I saw this past Saturday at a department store- decent pieces of clothing (nothing actually 'designer', I'll point out) technically costing $45, affordable only because they're labeled as 'marked down' ...
It certainly doesn't mean I think CCP was right to use their pricing scheme, just noting real clothes can and will cost about as much if you want good, sturdy attire that actually will last you, instead of cheap threads that cost $5 apiece and may well fall apart within a year or so. |
Alejan Gerakh
Clan Hyena
4
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Posted - 2011.09.26 19:06:00 -
[40] - Quote
1) Should there be Microtransactions in Eve?
Yes
No
Not Sure
[x] Don't Mind
2) What kind of Microtransactions would you like to see in Eve?
None
[X] Cosmetic Only
Those that give an Ingame Advantage
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I do like the suggestion of others to allow WiS-based gameplay items, once WiS has gotten some polish. But I also would have liked seeing, as also mentioned by others, the Microtransaction system merely add things to allow players to make all of the items through the existing industrial system, and then sell them on the market. However, I still don't mind the system as it is all that much.
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3) List any of the following choices that you would like to see removed from the game
Plex
Aurum
The Nex Store
[X] None of the above
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I will say that I would not be opposed to seeing AURUM removed - it does seem rather unnecessary.
__
4) PLEX = Microtransaction?
Yes
No
Not Sure
[X] Somewhat?
__
Certainly not the same as the NeX store, but it still counts in some form.
__
5) Do Plex give players an ingame advantage?
Yes
No
Not Sure
[X] Somewhat?
__
It benefits more than just the one who first paid cash, though, so it's certainly more acceptable as a method of gaining 'in-game advantage' ... somebody had to earn that ISK you get from PLEX, someone had to manufacture those ships and modules and such that you then buy with that ISK, and you doing business with them benefits them in ways already covered by other contributors. Ultimately, there's multiple parties involved and they all get what they want out of the deal. If you were just gifted something in-game for PLEX or $$$, then just you gain full advantage and no benefit is imparted to the in-game market, which is a Bad Thing (TM).
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6) Should the subscription model of eve have changed after the introduction of Aurum and the Nex Store?
Yes
[X] No
Not Sure
7) Have you ever purchased PLEX?
[X] Yes
No
__
To clarify, I bought PLEX to help my Corp out. I've never bought PLEX for private use - it either went to the Corp, or went to hardware whose only purpose is Corporate operations (like a capital ship), or went to comrades who needed more game time and either could not afford it or otherwise the existing methods of payment were not available to them, and I just happen to be the more financially-sound member of my gaming group while being loyal.
__
8) Have you ever purchased Aurum?
Yes
[X] No
9) Have you ever purchased anything from the Nex Store?
Yes
No
[X] Not yet
10) Have you ever purchased anything that was originally purchased from the Nex Store?
Yes
[X] No
I'm not sure
11) Do you think the Playerbase has overreacted about the whole Microtransaction Topic?
[X] Yes
No
Not Sure
12) Do you feel like the CSM or any individual CSM member has fairly represented your views on Microtransactions, Aurum and the Nex Store?
Yes
No
Not Sure
[X] Well enough
13) Do you think that buying a pre-trained character is like being able to purchase skillpoints?
Yes
No
Not Sure
[X] Somewhat?
__
This really does depend, like PLEX use, on things. As it stands, someone put work into a character and set a price for it, which could then be bargained over, and that price was in ISK, which again had to be earned by someone in-game at some point, even if the 'purchaser' just cashed in on a bunch of PLEX. This and the PLEX questions require quite a bit in the way of splitting hairs and such since they are rather murky subjects.
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14) Would you play eve if you only had to pay a subscription fee when you wanted to train skills?
Yes
No
Not Sure
[X] Not if it means most veterans (myself included) would essentially stop paying to play since they already have virtually maxed-out combat skills and consider the rest of the skills not worth training. We'd have most of the playerbase not paying within a year of them starting because they really can have all the skills they really need to do well in that short a time.
15) Have you ever voted in a CSM election?
Yes
[X] No
Not Sure
__
Sadly, I have never voted, despite being in the game for 3 years, now. I would like to be involved in the system. My excuse is as lame as most people's excuses in the real world: Who has time to follow politics and enjoy life/EVE, as well? |
T'amber Anomandari Demaleon
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
15
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Posted - 2011.10.09 06:32:00 -
[41] - Quote
slow year
CSM 4 Alt2, CSM5 Alt1 / Rage Quit, CSM6 Fail Candidate
Hasbeen Ragequitting Creator of New Edens Largest Non-Profit Events
derp. |
Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
5
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Posted - 2011.10.09 07:14:00 -
[42] - Quote
1 Depends
2 Cosmetic Only
3 None of the above
4 No
5 Yes
6 No
7 No
8 No
9 No
10 No
11 No
12 Depends
13 Yes
14 Yes
15 No
7 - Have purchased them in game to pay sub before, have not purchased them out of game for sale in-game
14 - Curious question ;) |
Solo Player
12
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Posted - 2011.10.24 20:24:00 -
[43] - Quote
Answering and letting this thread live to see another day. Cause it matters.
1) No
2) None
3) Aurum; The Nex Store
4) No
5) Yes
6) Yes
7) Yes
8) No
9) No
10) No
11) No
12) Not Sure
13) Yes
14) Yes
15) Yes
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Berendas
Clandestine Vector
THE SPACE P0LICE
4
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Posted - 2011.10.24 20:58:00 -
[44] - Quote
1) No
2) None
3) Aurum, NEX Store
4) Undecided
5) Depends
6) No
7) No
8) No
9) No
10) No
11) No
12) Yes
13) No
14) Yes
15) Yes |
Smiling Menace
Star Nebulae Holdings Inc.
10
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Posted - 2011.10.24 21:48:00 -
[45] - Quote
1) Should there be Microtransactions in Eve?
No
2) What kind of Microtransactions would you like to see in Eve?
None
3) List any of the following choices that you would like to see removed from the game
None of the above
4) PLEX = Microtransaction?
No
5) Do Plex give players an ingame advantage?
No
6) Should the subscription model of eve have changed after the introduction of Aurum and the Nex Store?
Not Sure/ Depends/ Undecided
7) Have you ever purchased PLEX?
No
8) Have you ever purchased Aurum?
Yes
No
9) Have you ever purchased anything from the Nex Store?
No
10) Have you ever purchased anything that was originally purchased from the Nex Store?
No
11) Do you think the Playerbase has overreacted about the whole Microtransaction Topic?
No
12) Do you feel like the CSM or any individual CSM member has fairly represented your views on Microtransactions, Aurum and the Nex Store?
Yes
13) Do you think that buying a pre-trained character is like being able to purchase skillpoints?
Yes
14) Would you play eve if you only had to pay a subscription fee when you wanted to train skills?
Yes
15) Have you ever voted in a CSM election?
Yes
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Gheng Kondur
Serva Fidem
16
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Posted - 2011.10.24 22:20:00 -
[46] - Quote
1) Yes
2) Cosmetic Only
3) None of the above
4) No
5) Depends
6) No
7) No
8) No
9) No
10) No
11) No
12) Yes
13) Yes
14) Yes
15) No
Although on 15, was too new to make a valid choice last time as still trying to work out all the politics, still trying now |
T'amber Anomandari Demaleon
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
26
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Posted - 2011.10.25 08:49:00 -
[47] - Quote
Gheng Kondur wrote:
15) No
Although on 15, was too new to make a valid choice last time as still trying to work out all the politics, still trying now
:P It looks like there will be some changes coming to the CSM process so It will be new for most of us next time round. Taking part in the Assembly Hall and having an active interest in the future of the game is a pretty good start though :P
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Qin Shi Huang
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2011.10.25 11:41:00 -
[48] - Quote
1) NO
2) None
3) Plex, Aurum, The Nex Store
4) Yes
5) Yes
6) Yes
7) Yes
8) No
9) No
10) No
11) No
12) Undecided
13) Yes
14) Yes
15) Yes |
Berendas
Clandestine Vector
THE SPACE P0LICE
5
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Posted - 2011.10.25 15:50:00 -
[49] - Quote
|| Friendly bump for an important topic || |
True Sight
Deep Freeze Industries
2
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Posted - 2011.11.05 14:45:00 -
[50] - Quote
1) Not sure
2) Cosmetic Only
3) The Nex Store
4) Not Sure
5) No
6) No
7) No
8) No
9) No
10) No
11) No (I still have 2 cancelled accounts)
12) Not sure
13) No
14) No (There would be too many people running around with 20 accounts)
15) Yes |
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