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Codebleu
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Posted - 2008.08.17 11:26:00 -
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I am wondering what the most common caldari solo pvp boat is. I know this will probably start a huge debate, but oh well. I am making a new toon and would love to get some input. Please just state the name of the ship and why you consider it the most formidable caldari foe. Thanks :)
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Cpt Branko
Surge. NIght's Dawn
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Posted - 2008.08.17 12:13:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Branko on 17/08/2008 12:13:36 Frigate-sized, it'd be the Kestrel (or the Crow/Harpy* if you want T2). Cruiser sized, I wouldn't solo PvP in Caldari cruisers (you could try using the Moa or the blaster Eagle), but most of them are preety much the best for gang support (the ECM cruiser line).
HAM-gank Drakes are awesome as far as solo BCs go, though (well, the blaster Ferox is decent as far as Tier 1 BCs go, too, but Tier 1 BCs aren't very hot overall).
Buffer-tanked Ravens are preety solid as far as battleships go, too.
*You want 1337 fitting skills for the really murderous Harpy fits, naturally.
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Jim Raynor
Caldari Shinra
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Posted - 2008.08.17 12:46:00 -
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Drake, buffer tank, tackle, gank fit, 7x heavy assaults/faction terror.
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Torak Dakos
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.08.17 12:56:00 -
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Buffer tanked torp raven 
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Felix Dzerzhinsky
Caldari Wreckless Abandon Un-Natural Selection
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Posted - 2008.08.17 13:23:00 -
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Caldari really can't solo. . .maby the drake, but thats only if your allowed to field one. I know I give people a hard time for flying them - pve boats should remain so. ----
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Von Kroll
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Posted - 2008.08.17 13:45:00 -
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I'm personally focussing on the HAM Drake.
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BiggestT
Caldari Space Oddysey Pupule 'Ohana
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Posted - 2008.08.17 14:23:00 -
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My mate used to solo in a blackbird and he popped an astarte once! it was a noob sure but damn it was funny.
If ur hardcore use a blaster ferox, ull be less succesful, but have way more fun in that over a drake.
If ur hardcore and rich then use a nighthawk hehe, it wld actually outperform the drake but thats like saying a CNR will outperform a raven in pvp hehe. poudly annoying fc's since 2007
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Rexthor Hammerfists
The Movement
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Posted - 2008.08.17 14:36:00 -
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[Drake, Heavy Assault Launchers] Power Diagnostic System II Shield Power Relay II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II
Large Shield Extender II Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Warp Disruptor II Stasis Webifier II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile [empty high slot]
Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I
Hornet II x5
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[Eagle, Solo] Reactor Control Unit II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
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Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M 'Arbalest' Heavy Assault Missile Launcher I, Caldari Navy Hellfire Assault Missile
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Inverted Signal Field Projector I Inverted Signal Field Projector I [empty rig slot]
Vespa II x5 Hornet II x5
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[Raven, Solo] Reactor Control Unit II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Co-Processor II
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Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Core Defence Capacitor safeguard I Core Defence Capacitor safeguard I
Vespa EC-600 x5
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Rexthor Hammerfists
The Movement
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Posted - 2008.08.17 14:37:00 -
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There will be many ppl telling you other races ships will do the job better, and they are right - truth is tho that in most fights not 15% dps or better tanks decide the battles but your real life skill. -
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FlameGlow
Caldari State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.08.17 15:10:00 -
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Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists [Drake, Heavy Assault Launchers] Power Diagnostic System II Shield Power Relay II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II
Large Shield Extender II Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Warp Disruptor II Stasis Webifier II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile [empty high slot]
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Paddington
Minmatar Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.08.17 15:14:00 -
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Fleshdiver 
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Naomi Knight
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.08.17 15:22:00 -
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Caldari is the worst race for pvp it need a HUGE boost like +100% dmg for missiles/rails and more pg and slots.
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Rexthor Hammerfists
The Movement
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Posted - 2008.08.17 15:22:00 -
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i use a shield power relay to be able to tank sentryguns longer, in gangs a dcII would be better, youre right. -
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Shad0w Hawk
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.08.17 16:11:00 -
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Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists
[Raven, Solo] Reactor Control Unit II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Co-Processor II
Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 25 X-Large C5-L Emergency Shield Overload I Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Warp Disruptor II
Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo [empty high slot] [empty high slot]
Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Core Defence Capacitor safeguard I Core Defence Capacitor safeguard I
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Hate to be a **** here, but 2 fitting mods and nothing even resembling defense against fast stuff?
I like at least 1 hvy neut with this, but that requires sacrifices.
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Cpt Branko
Surge. NIght's Dawn
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Posted - 2008.08.17 16:44:00 -
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Originally by: Felix Dzerzhinsky Caldari really can't solo. . .maby the drake, but thats only if your allowed to field one. I know I give people a hard time for flying them - pve boats should remain so.
PvE boats?
So, wait, ships which will wipe the floor with most ships of the same class are PvE boats? Why? Because mission runners use them for PvE?
So, if a ship is good for PvE, it must be bad at PvP? Sorry, but EvE doesn't operate that way.
Originally by: Shad0w Hawk
Hate to be a **** here, but 2 fitting mods and nothing even resembling defense against fast stuff?
I like at least 1 hvy neut with this, but that requires sacrifices.
You're actually quite correct. The best course of action would be to buffer-tank said Raven anyway, enables you to fit that heavy neut without any sacrifices (well, you have to use a RCU II, while a setup without a neut could use a PDU II and get extra EHP), and you get the EHP slightly lower then a gank Mega (but you can overheat it for about 2 mins to get significantly more EHP), with comparable gank (less at point-blank ranges, but more at ranges over 6-7km).
So generally, if slaves are out of the equation, it could go either way - but without slaves, the Raven is actually more likely to win thanks to the more attractive damage types and ability to overheat invulns for the extra effective HP, unless the engagement maybe starts at 1km where the Mega does have some extra damage.
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Rexthor Hammerfists
The Movement
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Posted - 2008.08.17 16:52:00 -
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Edited by: Rexthor Hammerfists on 17/08/2008 16:52:02
Originally by: Shad0w Hawk
Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists
[Raven, Solo] Reactor Control Unit II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Co-Processor II
Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 25 X-Large C5-L Emergency Shield Overload I Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Warp Disruptor II
Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo [empty high slot] [empty high slot]
Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Core Defence Capacitor safeguard I Core Defence Capacitor safeguard I
Vespa EC-600 x5
Hate to be a **** here, but 2 fitting mods and nothing even resembling defense against fast stuff?
I like at least 1 hvy neut with this, but that requires sacrifices.
Wait til the speednerf, change mwd to an ab and fit 1 hvy neut i guess. Alternatively you can fit a sort of passive tank, problem with that is that the rigs cost 30m for it, and thr acvtive one is muhc better for sustaining gateguns, most of all tho - the raven just doesnt cut it as even haulers get into warp before you lock em.
Change the point to a target painter and you got one deadly gangship tho -
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AstroPhobic
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.08.17 16:59:00 -
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Edited by: AstroPhobic on 17/08/2008 16:59:58 More raven love tbh. Buffer tank or go home.
[Raven, Torps] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Damage Control II
100MN MicroWarpdrive II Target Painter II Warp Disruptor II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Large Shield Extender II
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Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I
Ogre II x2 Hammerhead II x2 Hobgoblin II x1
1215 DPS/94k EHP.
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Naomi Knight
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.08.17 18:03:00 -
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Originally by: AstroPhobic Edited by: AstroPhobic on 17/08/2008 16:59:58 More raven love tbh. Buffer tank or go home.
[Raven, Torps] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Damage Control II
100MN MicroWarpdrive II Target Painter II Warp Disruptor II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Large Shield Extender II
Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bane Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bane Torpedo Large EMP Smartbomb I /OFFLINE Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bane Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bane Torpedo Large EMP Smartbomb I /OFFLINE Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bane Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Bane Torpedo
Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I
Ogre II x2 Hammerhead II x2 Hobgoblin II x1
1215 DPS/94k EHP.
your fit sux , as it cant solo no web --> everything will leave what cant kill the raven ,most bs-s will easily kill this raven anytime
Ravens are underpowered and needs a huge boost like +2 meds it is caldari it is all about med slots. And range on torps are so low+ slowest race it needs a velocity boost to be able to shot out to 40-50km.
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Gimpb
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Posted - 2008.08.17 18:08:00 -
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Edited by: Gimpb on 17/08/2008 18:08:42 Crow.
Crow soloers are very common but rarely will you see other caldari ships alone. Is it really a contest?
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Naomi Knight
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.08.17 18:12:00 -
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Originally by: Gimpb Edited by: Gimpb on 17/08/2008 18:08:42 Crow.
Crow soloers are very common but rarely will you see other caldari ships alone. Is it really a contest?
I wouldnt realy call a ceptor a solo ship , all can point and run mwd and do near 0 dmg. Ships bigger than a cruiser will tank it out with only shield regen.
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Cpt Branko
Surge. NIght's Dawn
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Posted - 2008.08.17 18:20:00 -
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Originally by: Naomi Knight
your fit sux , as it cant solo no web --> everything will leave what cant kill the raven ,most bs-s will easily kill this raven anytime
Ravens are underpowered and needs a huge boost like +2 meds it is caldari it is all about med slots. And range on torps are so low+ slowest race it needs a velocity boost to be able to shot out to 40-50km.
Trolling. It's supposed to be subtle.
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Deserak
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2008.08.17 18:47:00 -
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Originally by: Paddington Fleshdiver 
I second this statement.
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Naomi Knight
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.08.17 19:02:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Branko
Originally by: Naomi Knight
your fit sux , as it cant solo no web --> everything will leave what cant kill the raven ,most bs-s will easily kill this raven anytime
Ravens are underpowered and needs a huge boost like +2 meds it is caldari it is all about med slots. And range on torps are so low+ slowest race it needs a velocity boost to be able to shot out to 40-50km.
Trolling. It's supposed to be subtle.
It is hardly to use torps for missions , realy hard . And cruise missiles do less dmg than a tachyion or mega beam. And caldari needs to be the best in pve as it isnt good in pvp.
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Cpt Branko
Surge. NIght's Dawn
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Posted - 2008.08.17 19:25:00 -
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Originally by: Naomi Knight
It is hardly to use torps for missions , realy hard . And cruise missiles do less dmg than a tachyion or mega beam. And caldari needs to be the best in pve as it isnt good in pvp.
Trolling, you don't do it properly.
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kelvinnunn
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Posted - 2008.08.18 09:52:00 -
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Originally by: Deserak
Originally by: Paddington Fleshdiver 
I second this statement.
i would agree  but he's very shy about his setups 
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Jim Raynor
Caldari Shinra
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Posted - 2008.08.18 10:48:00 -
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With the speed nerf on SiSi web drones were catching HAC pretty nicely btw. Might consider using them on Ravens, worked pretty well for me. ------ I'll make a sig later. |

Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2008.08.18 10:54:00 -
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Best solo ship = Falcon. Falcons are unbeatable god-ships. You don't even have to bother jamming or shooting anyone, as soon as you decloak your target will instantly self-destruct in terror.
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Derek Sigres
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Posted - 2008.08.18 12:11:00 -
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Originally by: Naomi Knight your fit sux , as it cant solo no web --> everything will leave what cant kill the raven ,most bs-s will easily kill this raven anytime
Ravens are underpowered and needs a huge boost like +2 meds it is caldari it is all about med slots. And range on torps are so low+ slowest race it needs a velocity boost to be able to shot out to 40-50km.
I STRONGLY disagree with your sentiment. Torp Ravens deal *STUPID HIGH* DPS. The only ships that BEST their damage output do it at 1/6th the top range of a Raven. In all reality a Torp Raven is probably one of the nastiest battleships to EVER try to engage in another battleship because in anything approaching an Even fight it's going to be hard to actaually deliver more damage than the raven generates.
However, I do not consider the raven to be a viable Solo ship - Why? Lack of mid slots. In my experience a torp raven absolutely NEEDS a TP to work effectively (you don't generate full DPS against even battleships without one), and the MWD is certainly needed because of your short (relative to caldari philosophy at any rate) range. This gives you 4 mid slots to tank with. Adding the web + disruptor to make it a solo ship reduces my mid slots to 2 - and 2 mids + rigs just isn't enough tank to actually survive the brutal slugging matches the torp Raven is designed for.
The scorpion on the other hand I feel has potential as a solo ship so long as you have good target selection skills and/or have a fair idea of what race of ships you want to prey on.
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BiggestT
Caldari Space Oddysey Pupule 'Ohana
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Posted - 2008.08.18 12:45:00 -
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Originally by: Derek Sigres
Originally by: Naomi Knight your fit sux , as it cant solo no web --> everything will leave what cant kill the raven ,most bs-s will easily kill this raven anytime
Ravens are underpowered and needs a huge boost like +2 meds it is caldari it is all about med slots. And range on torps are so low+ slowest race it needs a velocity boost to be able to shot out to 40-50km.
I STRONGLY disagree with your sentiment. Torp Ravens deal *STUPID HIGH* DPS. The only ships that BEST their damage output do it at 1/6th the top range of a Raven. In all reality a Torp Raven is probably one of the nastiest battleships to EVER try to engage in another battleship because in anything approaching an Even fight it's going to be hard to actaually deliver more damage than the raven generates.
However, I do not consider the raven to be a viable Solo ship - Why? Lack of mid slots. In my experience a torp raven absolutely NEEDS a TP to work effectively (you don't generate full DPS against even battleships without one), and the MWD is certainly needed because of your short (relative to caldari philosophy at any rate) range. This gives you 4 mid slots to tank with. Adding the web + disruptor to make it a solo ship reduces my mid slots to 2 - and 2 mids + rigs just isn't enough tank to actually survive the brutal slugging matches the torp Raven is designed for.
The scorpion on the other hand I feel has potential as a solo ship so long as you have good target selection skills and/or have a fair idea of what race of ships you want to prey on.
Just ignore naomi there derek, their either a noob, troll, or both. Look at above, they said caldari need 100% bonus to grid n misiles to be useful LOL..
hey naomi ever tried flying one? no? then plz stfu poudly annoying fc's since 2007
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Felix Dzerzhinsky
Caldari Wreckless Abandon Un-Natural Selection
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Posted - 2008.08.18 13:06:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Branko
Originally by: Felix Dzerzhinsky Caldari really can't solo. . .maby the drake, but thats only if your allowed to field one. I know I give people a hard time for flying them - pve boats should remain so.
PvE boats?
So, wait, ships which will wipe the floor with most ships of the same class are PvE boats? Why? Because mission runners use them for PvE?
So, if a ship is good for PvE, it must be bad at PvP? Sorry, but EvE doesn't operate that way.
Quite frankly, I really could not care if one ship 'wipes the floor in its shipclass' the Drake is a BC - as such it is relativly big and quite slow. Even with a damage fit, a Zelot is still doing more damage, with no missle lag, and goes a lot faster. Same goes with a lot of ships. For the time being, slow BCs have very little place against a gang that is moving fast. And if you are fielding a lot of drakes, you just avoid them. If its camping thats gonna go down, then there are superior alternatives in the Cerb and so on. . .My point wsa: yes the drake is great, but in pvp, esepcially solo pvp, a drake is really not performing its intended duity - which is to produce dps. The drake has high figures for a caldari ship. . .but thats not saying much.
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