CSM6 was an alright CSM, but CCP has known about this in detail for ages.

-Liang

I guess that just illustrates how bad CSM 1-5 were.

Naw, what it illustrates is just how far CCP management had their head up their ass until the players started literally rioting and unsubbing.

-Liang

Naw, what it illustrates is just how far CCP management had their head up their ass until the players started literally rioting and unsubbing.

-Liang

I guess that just illustrates how bad CSM 1-5 were.

I have no problem with goons doing this for economic gain.
And I agree, driving your enemies before you, hearing the lamentations of their women, while making a healthy profit off of their misery is what Eve is all about.

But goon lie about their reasons for doing this.
They may actually gain some respect if they said, "Yeah, we do it for the money", instead of "We are the champions of righteousness in Eve, and will destroy the evil-doer botters since CCP can't".

I can't stand hypocrisy, and that hypocrisy is the raison d'etre of goons.

I never said that ships do not die.

All risk from NPC can be mitigated by knowledge + being at the keyboard.
If there is a way to mitigate all risk from NPC then risk can only come about via players.

It illustrates what the players who participated in the Summer of Rage are capable of.

Sorry, was this in the first ten minutes of the economy presentation (which I missed) or was this the keynote?

Thanks.

Sorry, was this in the first ten minutes of the economy presentation (which I missed) or was this the keynote?

Thanks.

Remember during the summer of rage when CCP brought the CSM to Iceland for an emergency meeting? If players unsubbing was the only thing responsible for all these great changes that meeting wouldn't have been necessary.

I understand it's hard for some people to give a goon-led CSM credit but in this case it's deserved.

So long as CCP makes all the goo dropping roids limited in number and easily found I think it is generally a good thing.

Limited numbers of areas and well marked locations of said roids is necessary to put groups in competition/conflict. CCP would be smart to create a crap ton more ways to compete with eachother inside the PVE content of the game.

Now if players do not want to compete or provide the risk, like in Highsec Incursions, then so be it. They should suffer the negative consequences of such play, whatever those may be.

[Moronic Pubbie Mode ON]

Buh Buh Buh That would mean he am do thing that against him make self make iskies and that am make no sense!!11!! no sense!!!1!!

GOONS BAD MITTANI BAD MAN!!!1

[/Moronic Pubbie Mode OFF]

TBH I don't think anything should be done AGAINST MOON GOO it is necessary for T2 stuff!!! instead of a monopoly I think smaller amounts should be available in other areas just like I believe many hi sec minerals should be available in greater quantities in NULL or WH space. Goo's priciple faucet SHOULD be in NULL just like priciple place of nano ribbons (T3 building block) should be in WH space but some crossover to NULL & hig sec would be good for non total monopolies.

On an aside, is there a nice synopsis of the presentation, or a recording, or somesuch? I unfortunately had to miss it for class.

Remember during the summer of rage when CCP brought the CSM to Iceland for an emergency meeting? If players unsubbing was the only thing responsible for all these great changes that meeting wouldn't have been necessary.

I understand it's hard for some people to give a goon-led CSM credit but in this case it's deserved.

The design must be made from the get go to screw over botting attempts. That right there removes most chance of it being easy to find or easy to run. Which is fine with me because the last thing we need is alliances replacing their moons with tech bots.

Best way to fight bots would be to remove hisec because that where the bots are. Bots are like incursion runners - they want CONCORD protection just like ATMs IRL.

lol there are no bots in NULL lolol trololo what a big pile of BS lol
peeps that beach most about incursions are mostly BOTs because incursions can't be botted

You have no class, you're a Goon.

There are more bots in caldari hisec alone than the rest of New Eden. Yeah, and remove local too ... there are no bots in unknown space.

Just going to say that I highly doubt most of the bots are in EDIT: Highsec *I fail at posting*. Now with most large scale alliances having rules against blue bot reporting and the massive amount of RMT from nullsec.

ok prove it so I can eat my tin foil hat... were do you get the numbers which say there are more bots there then in null? you have many points which say you may be right but the rumours about NULL alliances shielding bots are endemic. CCP ever say bots are anywhere in paticular? NULL is in some ways eaier to bot IMHO becuase if there is any1 in local boom they can disappear to POS... in hi sec they are easier to spot in many ways, no?

Best way to fight bots would be to remove hisec because that where the bots are. Bots are like incursion runners - they want CONCORD protection just like ATMs IRL.