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jam6549
Shadow Incursion Un-Natural Selection
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Posted - 2008.08.22 11:03:00 -
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Remember kids: Isk Farming is Bad
Quote: Gold-farming was proving so lucrative that criminal gangs were cashing in on it, said Mr Davis. These pay for their accounts with stolen credit cards, take money from players and do not hand over gold or goods in return and fill chat channels with adverts for websites hawking game gold.
Said before by CCP, crazy what criminals are up to these days. Who would ever thought that they would be into gaming
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Chochos
The Golden Goat
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Posted - 2008.08.22 11:07:00 -
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No no no !! The best quote is the bit below the EVE-Online picture on that article
Originally by: BBC News Economic depth in games such as Eve Online mean they avoid gold farming
EVE has no ISK farmers AMIRITE?
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2008.08.22 11:08:00 -
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Truly it is a sign of our glorious modern age, when basement dwellers have sweatshop workers in their employ. -
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Micia
Minmatar Thrace Inc Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.08.22 11:17:00 -
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Article is a year old, but still relevant: Linkage _______
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jam6549
Shadow Incursion Un-Natural Selection
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Posted - 2008.08.22 11:20:00 -
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Originally by: Chochos
Originally by: BBC News Economic depth in games such as Eve Online mean they avoid gold farming
EVE has no ISK farmers AMIRITE?
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plazzar
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Posted - 2008.08.22 11:43:00 -
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was listening to the news today about the amount of people in China earning ú80 per month grinding gold to sell in WoW. When I played the game I had to laugh at the amount of players that denied buying gold knowing full well they had to buy epic mounts. Blizzard always says its against the EULA to buy knowing that majority of the players did.
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Rashmika Clavain
Gallente Revelation Space
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Posted - 2008.08.22 12:10:00 -
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hehehe
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The industry, about 80% based in China, employs about 400,000 people who earn ú77 per month on average.
Does that mean we can assume they're Chinese 80% of the time when we talk about ISK sellers nationalities?
/runs Removed. Please keep your EVE signature related to your EVE persona and not that of a real life politician. Navigator |

Niccolado Starwalker
Shadow Templars
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Posted - 2008.08.22 12:19:00 -
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Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 22/08/2008 12:18:56
Originally by: Rashmika Clavain hehehe
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The industry, about 80% based in China, employs about 400,000 people who earn ú77 per month on average.
Does that mean we can assume they're Chinese 80% of the time when we talk about ISK sellers nationalities?
/runs
well, we can cut the crap atleast about calling it racism when we speak about "chinese gold farmers". This proves it is mostly the chinese who does it. And thats all we need.
Solution to ISK farming: Ban all chinese access to the Tranquility. They got their own server, so I dont see why we can turn it all around saying hey, europeans cant play on the chinese server - the chinese cant play on the western server!
Voila! ISK Trade solved!
Originally by: Dianabolic Your tears are absolutely divine, like a fine fine wine, rolling down your cheeks until they flow down the river of LOL
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Loyal Servant
Caldari PURE Legion Pure.
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Posted - 2008.08.22 12:33:00 -
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Article is wrong. The image of eve on the right side that has this caption: "Economic depth in games such as Eve Online mean they avoid gold farming"
So, if that is the case I should not have these 500 isk farmers in my address books with about 450 of them online. Mind you I add some on an almost daily basis.
To think that because eve has an in-depth market means that farmers cannot deal with it and do not farm here is complete bunk.
This sounds like some crap CCP would say.
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Chochos
The Golden Goat
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Posted - 2008.08.22 12:40:00 -
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Originally by: Loyal Servant Article is wrong. The image of eve on the right side that has this caption: "Economic depth in games such as Eve Online mean they avoid gold farming"
So, if that is the case I should not have these 500 isk farmers in my address books with about 450 of them online. Mind you I add some on an almost daily basis.
To think that because eve has an in-depth market means that farmers cannot deal with it and do not farm here is complete bunk.
This sounds like some crap CCP would say.
Already pointed out about several replies up :P
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Letrange
Minmatar Chaosstorm Corporation Apoapsis Multiversal Consortium
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Posted - 2008.08.22 16:58:00 -
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Ah but thanks to the Chinese goverment, our isk farmers aren't Chinese isk farmers :D
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Xap Starfire
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Posted - 2008.08.22 17:19:00 -
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Edited by: Xap Starfire on 22/08/2008 17:20:16 Instead of "Chinese Isk Farmers" could we call them what they really are? "Professional Video Gamers"...
As for people cheating at video games...well, that's been around for a while. Now that some games (MMO's mostly) can theoretically and illegally be played for money, the hacking/cheating is of course a bit more serious.
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Slade Trillgon
Siorai Iontach
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Posted - 2008.08.22 18:07:00 -
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Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker
Solution to ISK farming: Ban all chinese access to the Tranquility. They got their own server, so I dont see why we can turn it all around saying hey, europeans cant play on the chinese server - the chinese cant play on the western server!
Voila! ISK Trade solved!
I have not heard of a solution that would fix the problem. But if the numbers are correct, we all know how stats and numbers work , this is the best solution I have heard to this point. I think this needs to be brought up in the Assembly Hall.
Slade
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kyoukoku
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Posted - 2008.08.22 18:31:00 -
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Edited by: kyoukoku on 22/08/2008 18:31:27 Simple solution to the problem:
Block all traffic from IP assignments allocated to China, India, Vietnam, Thailand, Africa, Russia and Israel. These are where the farmers are. If the little sh!ts can't access the servers they can't farm. End of ISK farmers, macroers, RMT, etc.
This is not hard to do, I know because I work for a major ISP in the UK and have setup this very type of thing to prevent anyone in those countries from being able to signup to our hosting services. Why? Because there were too many fraudulent online signups which were then used for phishing. End result? 99% decrease in fraudulent signups.
If it means that a couple of dozen legitimate people in those countries are no longer able to play then tough *****. It's the lesser of two evils.
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Jacob Mei
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Posted - 2008.08.22 19:49:00 -
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Originally by: kyoukoku Edited by: kyoukoku on 22/08/2008 18:31:27 Simple solution to the problem:
Block all traffic from IP assignments allocated to China, India, Vietnam, Thailand, Africa, Russia and Israel. These are where the farmers are. If the little sh!ts can't access the servers they can't farm. End of ISK farmers, macroers, RMT, etc.
This is not hard to do, I know because I work for a major ISP in the UK and have setup this very type of thing to prevent anyone in those countries from being able to signup to our hosting services. Why? Because there were too many fraudulent online signups which were then used for phishing. End result? 99% decrease in fraudulent signups.
If it means that a couple of dozen legitimate people in those countries are no longer able to play then tough *****. It's the lesser of two evils.
Riiight...
Anyway, this is actually a good thing that its getting worse. At a certain point the gold buying community will eventually have to adapt or die, IE figure out ways to outsmart the gold sellers or "die" and go straight. Of course it doesnt hurt to have the MMO companies instill their own brand of punishment for buying digital currency. -------------------------------- To borrow a phrase:
Players who post are like stars, there are bright ones and those who are dim.
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Lithalnas
Amarr Headcrabs
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Posted - 2008.08.23 01:13:00 -
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there is no 'gold' farming in eve....
isk farming however is another story. Now if i was ccp, there would be a whole lot of people banned for isk selling. And i would publicize the amount of isk removed from eve. -------------
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2008.08.23 01:14:00 -
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how I mine for fish?!
Originally by: Lorz0r garmon is 90% Surfin's PlunderBunny, 10% er...Surfin's PlunderBunny
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.08.23 01:54:00 -
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Originally by: Lithalnas there is no 'gold' farming in eve.... isk farming however is another story. Now if i was ccp, there would be a whole lot of people banned for isk selling. And i would publicize the amount of isk removed from eve.
You mean the RMT devblogs ? One of them stating "our teams remove dozens of bil ISK on a daily basis" ?
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SHOPS || Mission rewards revamp || better nanofix
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Suze'Rain
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.08.23 02:01:00 -
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Originally by: jam6549
Said before by CCP, crazy what criminals are up to these days. Who would ever thought that they would be into gaming
games industry is worth over 50 billion dollars every year.
everyone wants a bit of that pie, and dont mind if they get their fingers dirty doing it.
welcome to the 21st century 
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Daniel Jackson
Caldari State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.08.23 03:30:00 -
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ITS ILLEAGLE DONT DO IT ___________________
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pwnedgato
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Posted - 2008.08.23 03:49:00 -
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I bought all the isk from all the farmers and now they are out. Did I help?
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Lithalnas
Amarr Headcrabs
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Posted - 2008.08.23 03:53:00 -
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Originally by: Lithalnas there is no 'gold' farming in eve....
isk farming however is another story. Now if i was ccp, there would be a whole lot of people banned for isk selling. And i would publicize the amount of isk removed from eve.
exactly, the one or two of them in the past 2 years here... -------------
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Aiden Bismuth
Gallente Die Boeremag
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Posted - 2008.08.26 07:00:00 -
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Originally by: kyoukoku Edited by: kyoukoku on 22/08/2008 18:31:27 Simple solution to the problem:
Block all traffic from IP assignments allocated to China, India, Vietnam, Thailand, Africa, Russia and Israel. These are where the farmers are. If the little sh!ts can't access the servers they can't farm. End of ISK farmers, macroers, RMT, etc.
stuff he said
Hey, that's where my corp accesses EVE from, last time I checked, we don't farm ISK. Or any other EULA violation. As matter of fact, I am trying to get a local site shutdown that is selling ISK, I didn't think we had a market for it, but anyway.
But, there is one problem with this solution, if I am blocked from directly accessing EVE's servers, couldn't I just get in through a proxy that isn't blocked?. Couldn't the isk farmers and macroers do the same?.
AB
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Naomi Halloran
Industry Breakthrough
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Posted - 2008.08.26 11:06:00 -
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Proxies, or they'd just have people in the US set up bot accounts for them. ---
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Azran Zala
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Posted - 2008.09.26 13:04:00 -
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Originally by: kyoukoku Edited by: kyoukoku on 22/08/2008 18:31:27
Block all traffic from IP assignments allocated to China, India, Vietnam, Thailand, AFRICA, Russia and Israel. These are where the farmers are. If the little sh!ts can't access the servers they can't farm. End of ISK farmers, macroers, RMT, etc.
If it means that a couple of dozen legitimate people in those countries are no longer able to play then tough *****. It's the lesser of two evils.
Thanx... you just suggested the end of the only happiness i have in life. I have a suggestion... ban the north american continent. You'll have an 80% drop in the amount of scamers ingame.
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Slade Trillgon
Siorai Iontach
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Posted - 2008.09.26 14:23:00 -
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Edited by: Slade Trillgon on 26/09/2008 14:23:22
Originally by: Azran Zala you just suggested the end of the only happiness i have in life. I have a suggestion... ban the north american continent. You'll have an 80% drop in the amount of scamers ingame.
Sorry, but scamming is allowed in EVE, RMT is not 
Oh yes...never mind; I will not remark on the thought in my head
Slade
Originally by: Crumplecorn NerfBat is now known as the WaveMachine.
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Bish Ounen
Gallente Omni-Core Freedom Fighters Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2008.09.26 15:15:00 -
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Edited by: Bish Ounen on 26/09/2008 15:15:14 For those suggesting banning all Chinese etc. IP's, You are forgetting about a few things:
1) Proxies. All they have to do is get a good proxy up and running somewhere in the EU, the UK, or the US and BAM they are right back on.
2) Even if the Chinese farmers can't get back on, all this does is open up the market for Western Farmers. There would be a slight pause as the Western farmers tool up, and then we will be right back where we started.
3) Supply and Demand: There will ALWAYS be a demand for cheap in-game currency. As long as the really good stuff costs large amnounts of currency, there will be players who are well-off in RL, and because they have real jobs, don't have time to grind for money. It's cheaper and easier to simply BUY the in-game money for a small amount of real money. As long as the demand is there (and it will ALWAYS be there) there will be clever people who find a way to cash in on it.
I wish there was a simple solution to farmers, but sadly, there isn't. Tactical Logistics using the last T1 Frigate hull!
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P'uck
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Posted - 2008.09.26 15:16:00 -
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Originally by: Chochos No no no !! The best quote is the bit below the EVE-Online picture on that article
Originally by: BBC News Economic depth in games such as Eve Online mean they avoid gold farming
EVE has no ISK farmers AMIRITE?
Well, it's true. They DO AVOID gold farming.
They farm isk. 
(un-tissss)
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Raymond Sterns
Utopian Research I.E.L. The ENTITY.
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Posted - 2008.09.26 15:46:00 -
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Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker
Ban all chinese access to the Tranquility.
I would kiss CCP if this happened. _
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Malcanis
RuffRyders Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.09.26 15:55:00 -
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Originally by: Slade Trillgon Edited by: Slade Trillgon on 26/09/2008 14:23:22
Originally by: Azran Zala you just suggested the end of the only happiness i have in life. I have a suggestion... ban the north american continent. You'll have an 80% drop in the amount of scamers ingame.
Sorry, but scamming is allowed in EVE, RMT is not 
Oh yes...never mind; I will not remark on the thought in my head
Slade
Ban American IPs and remove most of the ISK buyers....?
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