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Internet Knight The Knighthawks	Posted - 2008.08.25 18:53:00 - [61] Originally by: chopper1k ur corp always sucked Not really. Don't blame the whole corp for what Big Russ did. Originally by: chopper1k and big russ was a thief. He stole isk from confederation. He was terrible pvper and lost carriers like noobs lose frigates. While I don't have any proof for it, I will confirm that Big Russ is a thief not just from The Confederation, but also from your very own old corp, PLAYBOY Enterprises. He has bragged about the theft he and SCuDeR pulled off, to the tune of 1.5B ISK shortly before TOTG was formed. And yes, it was the inside joke that BR completely sucked at PVP. ---
Porgy Foundation Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2008.08.25 18:56:00 - [62] one of those VERY few times you can say "this thread needs more Oofig" _______________________
Odine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.25 19:03:00 - [63] Sad to hear that TOTG is closing doors, had many good fight versus your corp and yourself. Maybe we'll stumble into one another again in the future :P
Cali Serrano Baptism oF Fire Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.08.25 19:45:00 - [64] Nice read. Interesting story. Now one question. Since when has BoF been the IAC holding corp??? We joined IAC a little over 5 months ago after the epic failure that was VENOM. We brought with us most of what little Pvp backbone VENOM had and have fought our way up to being consistently one of the top Pvp corps in the alliance. Eaiaden went directly from Knighthawks to BoF (not sure of the negotiations that took place but I know he was the one who got us in IAC originally) and, as far as I can tell, he and those he brought with him have been excellent additions to BoF. Don't really care about the rest .. though it seems you did the best to keep things together and going smoothly if what you say is true ... I consider Eaiaden to be a good player and a good ally, so I figured I'd add a bit of error correction here.
Popperr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.08.25 20:11:00 - [65] who in the name of god could even begin to care
Internet Knight The Knighthawks	Posted - 2008.08.25 21:20:00 - [66] Originally by: Cali Serrano Eaiaden went directly from Knighthawks to BoF My bad. When I last spoke to Eaiaden before he left, he said he specifically said was going to go to IAC Frontiers in order to get away from the drama (don't blame him for wanting to get away from drama, just his choice of where to go to was rather interesting). This was on TeamSpeak, so there were no chatlogs. Additionally, I did believe that Eaiaden probably had an alt in IAC Frontiers at the very least in order to set standings for the alliance, him being a director and all. When that occurred, I convoed up Hachou (the IAC leader at the time) and told him this. I also told him that Eaiaden still has the 2B ISK and that he shouldn't be trusted. I left the matter at that, as it was out of my hands beyond that. I never checked to verify that he actually went there or not. My bad. ---
Tomeus Bears Inc Violent-Tendencies	Posted - 2008.08.25 21:51:00 - [67] Sorry to hear TOTG is closing Big Russ was an idiot, and anyone who was in FREGE command could back that up, but the rest of your corp had some decent members. Bears Inc are recruiting!
Skraeling Shortbus Caldari Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2008.08.25 22:17:00 - [68] Edited by: Skraeling Shortbus on 25/08/2008 22:19:09 Originally by: Internet Knight He has bragged about the theft he and SCuDeR pulled off, to the tune of 1.5B ISK shortly before TOTG was formed. And yes, it was the inside joke that BR completely sucked at PVP. Scuder is a good guy, so I wouldnt believe anything he told you about him. He never stole anything from me or GFB and I have played with him probably as long as you have and maybe longer at this point. So I reccomend you edit your post to be honest. Seriously you would believe anything a thief and idiot tells you?
Goatann Minmatar Goats Army	Posted - 2008.08.26 00:16:00 - [69] Originally by: Skraeling Shortbus Edited by: Skraeling Shortbus on 25/08/2008 22:19:09 Originally by: Internet Knight He has bragged about the theft he and SCuDeR pulled off, to the tune of 1.5B ISK shortly before TOTG was formed. And yes, it was the inside joke that BR completely sucked at PVP. Scuder is a good guy, so I wouldnt believe anything he told you about him. He never stole anything from me or GFB and I have played with him probably as long as you have and maybe longer at this point. So I reccomend you edit your post to be honest. Seriously you would believe anything a thief and idiot tells you? i agree with skrae on this one. scuder is one of the few i trust in game and i have spent quite a bit of time flying with him. dont believe everything you hear, especially when it comes in the form of 3rd party posts.
Internet Knight The Knighthawks	Posted - 2008.08.26 01:25:00 - [70] Edited by: Internet Knight on 26/08/2008 01:25:39 Originally by: Skraeling Shortbus Scuder is a good guy, so I wouldnt believe anything he told you about him. He never stole anything from me or GFB and I have played with him probably as long as you have and maybe longer at this point. So I reccomend you edit your post to be honest. Seriously you would believe anything a thief and idiot tells you? Originally by: Goatann i agree with skrae on this one. scuder is one of the few i trust in game and i have spent quite a bit of time flying with him. dont believe everything you hear, especially when it comes in the form of 3rd party posts. While I'll admit that I am in fact a third party to the events surrounding SCuDeR, it would surprise me if he's innocent. When TOTG joined FREGE, Lords of Maelstrom threw a hissyfit because SCuDeR was in TOTG. They didn't want a known thief in FREGE. Of course BR denied the events in FREGE's internal politics. It was that or get kicked out of FREGE. In corp chat and on corp voice comms though, BR bragged about SCuDeR's theft, even while SCuDeR was online and talking with us. I never heard SCuDeR object to anything BR was saying, not even privately in corp. Interesting considering BR was claiming SCuDeR to be a thief? And I do specifically remember SCuDeR needing an escort from B6-52M to Eurgrana a day before joining TOTG. I haven't deleted a single chatlog since starting to play EVE back in 2006. If you'd like, I could run through all my logs (ugh, there's a royal ***** and a half, he was in the corp for months) and back up my words with logs. Ultimately though, have you asked SCuDeR? ---
Goatann Minmatar Goats Army	Posted - 2008.08.26 01:42:00 - [71] Originally by: Internet Knight Edited by: Internet Knight on 26/08/2008 01:25:39 Originally by: Skraeling Shortbus Scuder is a good guy, so I wouldnt believe anything he told you about him. He never stole anything from me or GFB and I have played with him probably as long as you have and maybe longer at this point. So I reccomend you edit your post to be honest. Seriously you would believe anything a thief and idiot tells you? Originally by: Goatann i agree with skrae on this one. scuder is one of the few i trust in game and i have spent quite a bit of time flying with him. dont believe everything you hear, especially when it comes in the form of 3rd party posts. While I'll admit that I am in fact a third party to the events surrounding SCuDeR, it would surprise me if he's innocent. When TOTG joined FREGE, Lords of Maelstrom threw a hissyfit because SCuDeR was in TOTG. They didn't want a known thief in FREGE. Of course BR denied the events in FREGE's internal politics. It was that or get kicked out of FREGE. In corp chat and on corp voice comms though, BR bragged about SCuDeR's theft, even while SCuDeR was online and talking with us. I never heard SCuDeR object to anything BR was saying, not even privately in corp. Interesting considering BR was claiming SCuDeR to be a thief? And I do specifically remember SCuDeR needing an escort from B6-52M to Eurgrana a day before joining TOTG. I haven't deleted a single chatlog since starting to play EVE back in 2006. If you'd like, I could run through all my logs (ugh, there's a royal ***** and a half, he was in the corp for months) and back up my words with logs. Ultimately though, have you asked SCuDeR? actually yes, ive been in corp with scuder since around the time Ratel closed. he told me the story about LoM and the FREGE thing, and i believe his side after reading all the smack about him from the logs and eve mails. he has always been there backing me so i will do the same and back him on this one. besides everyone loves me so if i say he is ok they should too
Skraeling Shortbus Caldari Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2008.08.26 01:49:00 - [72] I mean no one would ever try and subvert someone else in this game with absolutely no proof right.... right? Give me a break. I would take Scuders word before any of those tools. And yes he's told us about all that drama as well, I was there when LOM threw a hissy fit over his being in Frege, such a joke. You should see the evemail I have seen from the LOM ceo.
Treks Dot The Kobayashi Maru	Posted - 2008.08.26 02:12:00 - [73] Edited by: Treks Dot on 26/08/2008 02:13:04 Originally by: Skraeling Shortbus You should see the evemail I have seen from the LOM ceo. You mean his highness Crybaby2000? To point, click and boldly go...
Skraeling Shortbus Caldari Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2008.08.26 02:17:00 - [74] The one and only. Treks have my babies.
MadMerlin International House of PWNCakes Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.08.26 03:20:00 - [75] I didn't realize this kind of drama occured! Wonderful reading material. grabs popcorn Tell me more stories!
128th ABC123 Eve Liberation Force Liberty.	Posted - 2008.08.26 09:59:00 - [76] I find that I can work together with Eaiaden quite well...
Alty McAltypants Eretz Israel	Posted - 2008.08.26 10:33:00 - [77] Edited by: Alty McAltypants on 26/08/2008 10:33:01 Originally by: Ackaroth Originally by: Internet Knight Our choices based solely on the economic value of the space which they were holding was: RAZOR Triumvirate IAC United Legion Knights of the Southern Cross You lumped us in with all of them? Perhaps it goes to show how much tri.mk1 lived in its own bubble and thought it was awesome? Ps. great read
padraig animal Minmatar Gemstone Industry's	Posted - 2008.08.26 10:55:00 - [78] Interesting thread ,great reading tho
RedRage88 Ctrl-Q Inc. Intruders.	Posted - 2008.08.27 12:21:00 - [79] Its like a short novel :P I remember killing big russ caps in lx5 when i was in aftermath too, was quite funny, the way he went about it all... randomly warping to poses with caps told me how s*** he was at pvp... after that we were allowed sov for a while , that was fun. -------------------------------------------------- Monkey see, monkey do
Kai Jyokoroi The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2008.08.27 13:51:00 - [80] Originally by: Popperr who in the name of god could even begin to care God damn it I am such a goon fanboy it's not even funny ---------------------- GIEF MISSL
SomeHardLovin The Nietzian Way Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.28 21:31:00 - [81] Lol. --- * The opinions expressed are mine and do not necessarily represent those of my corporation or alliance.
chopper1k Caldari Black Plague. RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.29 08:58:00 - [82] Originally by: Goatann Originally by: Skraeling Shortbus Edited by: Skraeling Shortbus on 25/08/2008 22:19:09 Originally by: Internet Knight He has bragged about the theft he and SCuDeR pulled off, to the tune of 1.5B ISK shortly before TOTG was formed. And yes, it was the inside joke that BR completely sucked at PVP. scuders a thief , plain and simple.He stole from lords of maelstrom and ran to TOTG and if u want confirmation plz contact cymru2000 (my ex ceo) as it was his isk that got pinched. Furthermore , when TOTG joined FREGE , scuders was hounded by my corp until he emp posted in FREGE alliance mail and left .Just cause the guys good at making friends does not mean he didnt steal.Scuder is a good guy, so I wouldnt believe anything he told you about him. He never stole anything from me or GFB and I have played with him probably as long as you have and maybe longer at this point. So I reccomend you edit your post to be honest. Seriously you would believe anything a thief and idiot tells you? i agree with skrae on this one. scuder is one of the few i trust in game and i have spent quite a bit of time flying with him. dont believe everything you hear, especially when it comes in the form of 3rd party posts.
chopper1k Caldari Black Plague. RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.29 09:01:00 - [83] Originally by: Skraeling Shortbus The one and only. Treks have my babies.
chopper1k Caldari Black Plague. RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.29 09:02:00 - [84] Originally by: Skraeling Shortbus The one and only. Treks have my babies. u must be scuder (thief) alt
Ervol Libra Amarr Invenio Inceptum	Posted - 2008.08.29 09:10:00 - [85] Originally by: Goatann Originally by: Skraeling Shortbus Edited by: Skraeling Shortbus on 25/08/2008 22:19:09 Originally by: Internet Knight He has bragged about the theft he and SCuDeR pulled off, to the tune of 1.5B ISK shortly before TOTG was formed. And yes, it was the inside joke that BR completely sucked at PVP. scuders a thief , plain and simple.He stole from lords of maelstrom and ran to TOTG and if u want confirmation plz contact cymru2000 (my ex ceo) as it was his isk that got pinched. Furthermore , when TOTG joined FREGE , scuders was hounded by my corp until he emp posted in FREGE alliance mail and left .Just cause the guys good at making friends does not mean he didnt steal.Scuder is a good guy, so I wouldnt believe anything he told you about him. He never stole anything from me or GFB and I have played with him probably as long as you have and maybe longer at this point. So I reccomend you edit your post to be honest. Seriously you would believe anything a thief and idiot tells you? i agree with skrae on this one. scuder is one of the few i trust in game and i have spent quite a bit of time flying with him. dont believe everything you hear, especially when it comes in the form of 3rd party posts. Step 1 into theft, make sure the ppl you want to steal from trust you with their lives and wallet access.

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