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Symlin Raahn Gallente Killer Koalas Kingdom of Butan	Posted - 2008.08.24 16:38:00 - [1] Edited by: Symlin Raahn on 24/08/2008 16:44:45 Edited by: Symlin Raahn on 24/08/2008 16:38:21 CCP is billing me every 30 days. Why are they deceptively calling it a "monthly" charge? That seems very dishonest to me. 365 days in a year, divided by 30 days = 12.1667 billings a year. 12.1667 billings a year times $14.95 per month = $181.89 $181.89 divided by 12 months = $15.15 $15.15 is our true cost per month if paying by month. Why can't they just be up front about this? Is there something that is so hard about billing on the same day every month?? Maybe they need a computer or programmers, or something like that, which could handle it for them. I think they should adopt Google's official, informal corporate motto, "Don't be evil." Wiki for Google Moto òòò òòò òòò òòò òòò òòò òòò òòò òòò òòò òòò òòò ò Growing old is mandatory. ò Growing up is optional.
Riho Gallente Mercenary Forces	Posted - 2008.08.24 16:41:00 - [2] if you are counting cents while paying for eve.... you should be playing eve at all. and you pay in dollars... try euros and then complain :P ---------------------------------- Fighting for Minmatar o7 Yes... this is my main. Extreme Troll Slayer...
Jana Clant New Dawn Corp New Eden Research	Posted - 2008.08.24 16:50:00 - [3] Originally by: Riho and you pay in dollars... try euros and then complain :P Indeed. New Eden Research, where science is serious business!
An Anarchyyt Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.08.24 16:52:00 - [4] Don't forget those international transaction charges that pop up. That's like another quarter or so throughout the whole year! And that is entirely CCPs fault as we all know they are part of the Shadow Gov't that operates the World Bank. I say let the Bears pay the bear tax, I pay the Homer tax. Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
Piper Halliwell Minmatar Phantom Squad G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.08.24 16:53:00 - [5] Yet another jackass posting about how much they hate CCP but continues to play despite it. Here is a clue Sherlock....SHUT THE F*CK UP! -------------------- You've got a gun, I've got a gun, Let's write a tragic ending.
Unity Love Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2008.08.24 16:55:00 - [6] Edited by: Unity Love on 24/08/2008 16:56:22 Your troll doesn't make sense and is no where near funny. Pretty similar to your sig to be honest. Edit: (To above poster, I agree with the OP)
Symlin Raahn Gallente Killer Koalas Kingdom of Butan	Posted - 2008.08.24 16:57:00 - [7] Originally by: Riho if you are counting cents while paying for eve.... you should be playing eve at all. and you pay in dollars... try euros and then complain :P Why can't people read any more?????? It seems like so many need a good course in reading comprehension. I was NOT complaining about the price. I was complaining about CCP being deceptive. And, it is entirely beside the point I was making, but I wouldn't mind having a few extra cents from 100,000+ people each month. If you wouldn't want it, I guess that says a lot about you. Also, being in the U.S.A., Master Card charges me a $0.45 per 30 day, $14.95 subscription fee. The line item charge reads "International Transaction Fee." How much is it in euros? But again, I am NOT complaining about the price. Please read more closely next time, Riho. òòò òòò òòò òòò òòò òòò òòò òòò òòò òòò òòò òòò ò Growing old is mandatory. ò Growing up is optional.
An Anarchyyt Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.08.24 17:00:00 - [8] You should probably sue. Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
Brigsby5987 Caldari 32nd Amarrian Imperial Navy Regiment.	Posted - 2008.08.24 17:01:00 - [9] Originally by: Symlin Raahn Edited by: Symlin Raahn on 24/08/2008 16:44:45 Edited by: Symlin Raahn on 24/08/2008 16:38:21 CCP is billing me every 30 days. Why are they deceptively calling it a "monthly" charge? That seems very dishonest to me. 365 days in a year, divided by 30 days = 12.1667 billings a year. 12.1667 billings a year times $14.95 per month = $181.89 $181.89 divided by 12 months = $15.15 $15.15 is our true cost per month if paying by month. Why can't they just be up front about this? Is there something that is so hard about billing on the same day every month?? Maybe they need a computer or programmers, or something like that, which could handle it for them. I think they should adopt Google's official, informal corporate motto, "Don't be evil." Wiki for Google Moto so your *****ing about not paying enough? CCP, charge this man more. the .1 billing would always fall over onto another month.......... lol. __________________________________________ When Will I be able to post again ? 13 days, 23 hours, 55 minutes, 36 seconds
Trathen Minmatar SniggWaffe	Posted - 2008.08.24 17:06:00 - [10] Companies can be misleading?! Someone call the press, this man's keen eye is worth millions! _
Symlin Raahn Gallente Killer Koalas Kingdom of Butan	Posted - 2008.08.24 17:06:00 - [11] Originally by: Piper Halliwell Yet another jackass posting about how much they hate CCP but continues to play despite it. Here is a clue Sherlock....SHUT THE FCK UP! I thought EVE was more of an adults game. hmmm... Piper Halliwell, like the other guy, please LEARN HOW TO READ! I never said I hated EVE, and I do NOT* hate EVE. I was only pointing out one deceptive practice they have. A good company will take note of something like that and change what it says on their billing page to "14.95 per 30 days," and remove the "per month" -- that is, IF they want to be completely honest with folks. If they are doing it intentionally, which I suspect they must be for it to have gone on for years with it being like that, then is is an evil thing to do. òòò òòò òòò òòò òòò òòò òòò òòò òòò òòò òòò òòò ò Growing old is mandatory. ò Growing up is optional.
Jacob Mei	Posted - 2008.08.24 17:09:00 - [12] Dont they say somewhere when you sign up the billing cycle is every 30 days. Anyway, sence no one else has said it: Can I have your stuff? -------------------------------- To borrow a phrase: Players who post are like stars, there are bright ones and those who are dim.
Lothros Andastar Gallente	Posted - 2008.08.24 17:10:00 - [13] Edited by: Lothros Andastar on 24/08/2008 17:10:31 Um... No I'm not even gonna bother. If you are so stupid to not realise that month = 30 days then you deserve to be shot Also, if you are so anal about 15 cents, you seriously need to be beaten to death
An Anarchyyt Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.08.24 17:10:00 - [14] Originally by: Lothros Andastar Um... No I'm not even gonna bother. If you are so stupid to not realise that month = 30 days then you deserve to be shot BUT WHAT ABOUT FEBRUARY?????????????????????????? Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
Trathen Minmatar SniggWaffe	Posted - 2008.08.24 17:13:00 - [15] To be fair, at least its not about L4 missions _
Symlin Raahn Gallente Killer Koalas Kingdom of Butan	Posted - 2008.08.24 17:35:00 - [16] Originally by: Unity Love Edited by: Unity Love on 24/08/2008 16:56:22 Your troll doesn't make sense and is no where near funny. Pretty similar to your sig to be honest. Boy, you EVE sycophants around here sure are sensitive. It's not a troll, it is a thread subject. I tried to make it something like: "Why do they call it a 'Monthly Charge' when it isn't," but the clunky EVE forum software shortened it to "Why do they call." That made little sense and wasn't on subject. So, I merely quickly changed the subject to something that I thought was on point and much shorter. In case someone wants to complain about the link I inserted in my first message not working right (as you guys seem to want to complain about everything else about my post, even if I didn't say what you say I said), try pasting http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don't_be_evil That is what I inserted, but the faulty EVE forum software converted it to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_t_be_evil ò And, Unity Love, who said I was trying to be funny with my sig? ò You people make so many wrong assumptions. Try this, Unity Love, I don't think your name is funny, or cute either. Does that make you feel really, really bad? ================== Remember, Unity Love, a closed mouth gathers no foot. (now that's funny) òòò òòò òòò òòò òòò òòò òòò òòò òòò òòò òòò òòò ò Growing old is mandatory. ò Growing up is optional.
Xonkra Gallente	Posted - 2008.08.24 17:48:00 - [17] OUTRAGE!!! --------- Founder of the Hug-a-troll initiative Hug a forum troll because they can probably use it !
Robacz Essence Trade Essence Enterprises	Posted - 2008.08.24 17:49:00 - [18] OP is acutally right. If CCP advertises price of their service at 14.95 per month and then bill in 30 day cycles, it is a scam. Very small one, but still scam. I don't know what law they have in Iceland, but where I live it would bring them fine from business regulation agency (or whatever is english name for govt paid guys who fine companies for such things ). Calendary month != 30 days. When you bill monthly, you bill same day every month, not 30 days after last billing. This (and other pages where it says "month" instead of "30 days" should be fixed.
Zeba Minmatar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2008.08.24 17:53:00 - [19] Originally by: Xonkra NERDRAGE!!! Fixed. inappropriate signature. ~WeatherMan
Gabrialle Amarr Sunspot Requisitions Worlds End Consortium	Posted - 2008.08.24 17:56:00 - [20] it says per month if it said per calender month itd be a scam as it is its technically accurate
Tortun Nahme Minmatar Umbra Synergy Final Retribution Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.24 18:00:00 - [21] I wonder if the OP is really this dense? I wonder if the OP realises that "his" calendar is only one of the 9 different ways of keeping track of the passage of time used? probably not, because most OP's usually think the world revolves around them and that and extra .20 cents is something we should make a topic on and care about Applebabe ate my signature :( but the fish hat forgives! Nemotology is the EvE religion of choice!
Cosmo Raata Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.24 18:01:00 - [22] ... Don't Ban me for my Love of Amarr!
Robacz Essence Trade Essence Enterprises	Posted - 2008.08.24 18:03:00 - [23] Edited by: Robacz on 24/08/2008 18:04:03 Originally by: Gabrialle it says per month if it said per calender month itd be a scam as it is its technically accurate What kind of "month" has set length of 30 days? There is no such thing.
Xevan Templar 7th Batavian Squadron	Posted - 2008.08.24 18:07:00 - [24] Originally by: Symlin Raahn I was NOT complaining about the price. I was complaining about CCP being deceptive. Talking about deception, if I were you I would be more worried about Bush making your country bankrupt (while the Bush family gets more money offcourse themselves) then the few cents 'CCP is stealing you off by'. Besides that I live by the Mayan calander so for me it's all profit.
Tortun Nahme Minmatar Umbra Synergy Final Retribution Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.24 18:07:00 - [25] April, June, September, November? 2 Lunar months adds up to 59 days, tbh CCP should alternate charging us once ever 30 and then 29 days Applebabe ate my signature :( but the fish hat forgives! Nemotology is the EvE religion of choice!
Mankirks Wife	Posted - 2008.08.24 18:08:00 - [26] Originally by: An Anarchyyt Don't forget those international transaction charges that pop up. That's like another quarter or so throughout the whole year! That's it? My bank charges me a dollar + 1%. Which is why I pay annually... I'm a cheap bastard. By the time my sub rolls around again hopefully I'll be making enough to fund both my accounts via GTCs ---
Symlin Raahn Gallente Killer Koalas Kingdom of Butan	Posted - 2008.08.24 18:10:00 - [27] Originally by: Lothros Andastar Edited by: Lothros Andastar on 24/08/2008 17:10:31 Um... No I'm not even gonna bother. First you say you aren't going to bother, then you do. ROF,L Quote: If you are so stupid to not *realise* that month = 30 days then you deserve to be shot Yeah, just like there are four weeks in a month, Lothros Andastar. LMFAO. It is not a matter of "realizing," (and since you called me "stupid," I must point out that I do know how to spell "realize" correctly), Lothros Andastar, it is a fact that many months are NOT 30 days. Months are either 30, 31, 28, or every 4 years, 29 days. In monetary accounting software, like Quicken, there isn't even an option to schedule a bill payment every 30 days. (Though payments can be scheduled every month, weekly, every 2 weeks, twice a month, every four weeks, quarterly, twice a year, and yearly.) That's how screwy and wrong billing every 30 days is. If you Google "how long is a month," the first thing you get is: "30 days in September, April, June and November - all the rest have 31, except for February, which has 28 (except in a Leap Year, when it has 29)" I have paid many recurring bills in my life, and most of them have been monthly -- car payments, gas, electric, water, home mortgages, etc., etc., etc. No bill I have ever paid was charged on a 30 day cycle. NEVER!!. Now, CCP/EVE can charge however they want to. If they want to charge every 20 days and have a different price for that, fine by me. Just as long as they don't say that it is a 3 week payment schedule. At that point it would become deceptive. If they want to charge every 30 days, that is what they should say, not "monthly." And also, it is not the point, Lothros Andastar, but, Quote: Also, if you are so anal about 15 cents, you seriously need to be beaten to death As I said, it is not the money, it's the principle. And when you go calling people "stupid," Lothros Andastar and saying you know how long a month is, don't make a blatant math mistake like... + $15.15 - $14.95 and get 15ó for your answer. (this is too funny!!) I forgive you for your several mistakes in your message, and for now knowing better. ================================ The trouble isn't that there are too many fools, but that lightning isn't distributed properly. òòò òòò òòò òòò òòò òòò òòò òòò òòò òòò òòò òòò ò Growing old is mandatory. ò Growing up is optional.
Jana Clant New Dawn Corp New Eden Research	Posted - 2008.08.24 18:19:00 - [28] Thread needs more fish hats. New Eden Research, where science is serious business!
Tortun Nahme Minmatar Umbra Synergy Final Retribution Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.24 18:21:00 - [29] Originally by: Jana Clant Thread needs more fish hats. agreed Applebabe ate my signature :( but the fish hat forgives! Nemotology is the EvE religion of choice!
Jana Clant New Dawn Corp New Eden Research	Posted - 2008.08.24 18:27:00 - [30] Teehee! New Eden Research, where science is serious business!

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