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Holy Lowlander
Aurora Acclivitous
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Posted - 2008.08.25 13:03:00 -
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Warning big wall of tekst... ^^
The abbadon is one of the few amarr ships that does not get the cap usage bonus on lasers. This makes it use a large amount of cap to just deal damage alone. In fact it uses so much cap on weaponry alone you need cap mods to keep your guns running.
with maxed out skills these guns use the following cap when using multifrequentie L:
mega pulse lasers | -5.3 cap every second
dual heavy pulse lasers | -4.3 cap every second
dual heavy beam lasers | -5.1 cap every second
mega beam lasers | -7.5 cap every second
tachyone beam lasers | -7.9 cap every second
If you use 8 Mega Pulse laser II's with multifrequentie L you'd have 4 minute 57 seconds of cap. and without skills 3m 22.
you'd need at least 4 cap recharger II's or 3x power relay II's to make you perma run your guns.
But that would waste all your medslots or 3 valuable lowslots wich you could use for damage mods or amor tank.
So your best bet would be using a cap booster. a heavy cap booster with charge 400's lets you perma run your guns.
Now the problem is that cap boosters take up cargospace. Knowing that the developers would have tought about this issue they'd give it a good cargobay to put all those charges in.
But they didn't instead they gave the abbadon 525 m3 cargohold and thus the smallest cargohold of all Battleships.
This seems far from logical to me....
Possible solution :
Give the abbadon a 675 m3 carghold as that would match with the cargohold of another cap booster user , the Hyperion.
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Herschel Yamamoto
Bloodmoney Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.08.25 16:54:00 -
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So your complaint is having to use cap modules on an Amarrian ship? Pardon me if I'm not exactly shocked by this. The Abaddon is a very good ship, with a heavy weakness in cap, and this is intentional. I see no need to try to fix it - the ship is not broken.
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Holy Lowlander
Aurora Acclivitous
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Posted - 2008.08.25 18:26:00 -
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my complaint is that it needs lots of cargospace for boosters and that the cargohold sucks wich is a bad combination....
I might have put a litle to much effort it trying to explain why ......
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Another Forum'Alt
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Posted - 2008.08.25 18:38:00 -
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The abaddon's entire point is that it has good dps and tank... for a short time.
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Herschel Yamamoto
Bloodmoney Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.08.25 19:51:00 -
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Originally by: Holy Lowlander
my complaint is that it needs lots of cargospace for boosters and that the cargohold sucks wich is a bad combination....
I might have put a litle to much effort it trying to explain why ......
I understood your point. I just happened to disagree with it.
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El Yatta
Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2008.08.25 20:29:00 -
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No, this is stupid. The ship is supposed to have a downside in high cap usage in return for amazing EHP and damage. This suggestion is about mitigating that downside for no stated balance reason - the abaddon is great, why boost it?
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Piru Industrial
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Posted - 2008.08.25 21:09:00 -
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i thinketh the cargo capacity is lower because amarrian ships do not require as much m3 for ammo?
plz though i if i stand corrected...
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Red Raider
Caldari
Airbourne Demons
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Posted - 2008.08.25 21:27:00 -
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Originally by: Holy Lowlander
But that would waste all your medslots or 3 valuable lowslots wich you could use for damage mods or amor tank.
Every Caldari pilot and almost every Minmatar pilot assumed you were joking because of this statement.
Unfortunately you are not. 
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Takashi X2
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Posted - 2008.08.26 04:06:00 -
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Also you havent taken into account that you dont need to hold ammo? hypes megas hell even ravens all need significant space for ammo amarr ships dont need such things since ammo is small compartivly for teh ammoutn of shots you get (for t2 and faction) t1 is infinite
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Amarr Holymight
Bat Country
Vanguard.
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Posted - 2008.08.26 14:46:00 -
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Originally by: Another Forum'Alt
The abaddon's entire point is that it has good dps and tank... for a short time.
You are a ******.
Also faction and T2 laser ammo does need spare in your cargo as it does run out. I support this idea as the abaddon eats through cap boosters like no other ship.
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Noa Fuyu
Amarr
Black Eclipse Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.08.26 15:00:00 -
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lol. In other amarr BS people use the rig slots for resist bonus's or trimarks, maybe even damage mods. In the Abaddon I suggest semi cells, CCCs (which are a fav on the other two as well.) or the Discharge one which really does wonders for cutting down the cap usage on guns.
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Herschel Yamamoto
Bloodmoney Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.08.26 15:18:00 -
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Originally by: Amarr Holymight
You are a ******.
Also faction and T2 laser ammo does need spare in your cargo as it does run out. I support this idea as the abaddon eats through cap boosters like no other ship.
Your Abaddon needs 8 m3 for a full reload, my Hyperion needs 80m3 for a reload. Assuming each of us keeps two kinds of ammo on hand(I don't know about you, but I do), the Abaddon has 4m3 more for cap boosters than the Hyperion does. You cannot complain about that.
Also, the Abaddon eats cap boosters just like every other battleship - you stick on a heavy injector, and eat them as fast as you can when you want to have everything running, and maybe ease off a little when you get in close and turn off the MWD. It wants them more than most, but it doesn't use them any faster.
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Bossebootes
Minmatar
Space-Bar
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.08.26 19:03:00 -
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well there are moduals called cargo expanders and cargo optimisation rigs which all exist already if your cargo hold isn,t big enougth for you. ship fitting is optional and abbadon is already one of the best battle ships in game so stop whinging
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Euriti
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.08.26 20:05:00 -
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Originally by: Bossebootes
well there are moduals called cargo expanders and cargo optimisation rigs which all exist already if your cargo hold isn,t big enougth for you. ship fitting is optional and abbadon is already one of the best battle ships in game so stop whinging
You have to be shitting me.
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Red Raider
Caldari
Airbourne Demons
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Posted - 2008.08.26 21:28:00 -
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Originally by: Euriti
Originally by: Bossebootes
well there are moduals called cargo expanders and cargo optimisation rigs which all exist already if your cargo hold isn,t big enougth for you. ship fitting is optional and abbadon is already one of the best battle ships in game so stop whinging
You have to be shitting me.
No one said you had to fit your ship in an intelligent manner.
Specialized fits have little to no purpose but I suppose you could blow 90 million on Cargo expander rigs so you could hold more cap charges. In the meantime I will enjoy looting your cap charges and start making more cargo expander rigs.
The OP is still asking for one of the best BS's in the game to be made even better and eliminate its only weakness which is pretty bold to say the least.
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