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Lynal Gallente A Few Good Men.	Posted - 2008.08.25 21:55:00 - [1] ok, thinking about picking up either an enyo or an ishkur for some roaming small gang pvp. i wont be primary tackler, so im not too concerned about that... however i do always seem to be targeted first, so that is a concern (hence one of the reasons im thinking about the enyo instead of just the ishkur) i can fit all t2, including drones, on both ships... only have awu to lvl 3 atm though but anyways... anyone have any fitting advice for either? or hell, just advice on which one to go with at the least (again, small roaming gang, with some durability... not much solo). thanks and appreciated. Originally by: Daeva Vios It's fair when the larger force is on my side. It's lame when the larger force is on their side. How have people not figured this out yet?
Alexander Nexus	Posted - 2008.08.25 22:07:00 - [2] Personally I love AFs but currently they don't have a distinct role in EVE. Anything an AF can do, a T1 cruiser can do for cheaper. However after the nano patch rumor has it that AFs are getting a boost. That being said, I prefer the Ishkur. I started off in an Enyo, but it's lacking in pvp because it's only got 2 mid slots. I would strongly suggest using an Afterburner on either ship. AFs can't rely on speed like inties and some T1 frigs so relying on their tiny sig radius is their best bet. Either ship has great resists and combined that with the fact that it's a frig and most damage will be manageable. Although it's still speculation, sniper enyos could be an option.
Lynal Gallente A Few Good Men.	Posted - 2008.08.25 22:15:00 - [3] Originally by: Alexander Nexus Personally I love AFs but currently they don't have a distinct role in EVE. Anything an AF can do, a T1 cruiser can do for cheaper. However after the nano patch rumor has it that AFs are getting a boost. That being said, I prefer the Ishkur. I started off in an Enyo, but it's lacking in pvp because it's only got 2 mid slots. I would strongly suggest using an Afterburner on either ship. AFs can't rely on speed like inties and some T1 frigs so relying on their tiny sig radius is their best bet. Either ship has great resists and combined that with the fact that it's a frig and most damage will be manageable. Although it's still speculation, sniper enyos could be an option. thats kinda why im thinking about picking one up... figuring with the upcoming nerfs AF's will be better than they ever used to be, especially for the roaming small gang stuff im doing lately. and yea, was thinking about a pseudo sniper setup... x4 125mm rail II small knave I energy drain 1mn ab II web/scram sar II eanm II DCU II MFS II Originally by: Daeva Vios It's fair when the larger force is on my side. It's lame when the larger force is on their side. How have people not figured this out yet?
Cpt Branko Surge.	Posted - 2008.08.25 22:16:00 - [4] Edited by: Cpt Branko on 25/08/2008 22:17:00 Edited by: Cpt Branko on 25/08/2008 22:16:14 Originally by: Lynal and yea, was thinking about a pseudo sniper setup... x4 125mm rail II small knave I energy drain 1mn ab II web/scram sar II eanm II DCU II MFS II I was considering suggesting you something of the sort, but used on a Ishkur (without the MFS naturally. The Ishkur is, in general, a better ship (within, say, 20-ish km range). Also, just finished training Assault Ships V. Always wanted a excuse to train that, the SISI changes gave me one (I'll be happy with it even if they don't materialize, I fly them on TQ a fair deal). Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
William Escobar Gallente Blaze Tech	Posted - 2008.08.25 23:07:00 - [5] Edited by: William Escobar on 25/08/2008 23:12:41 Edited by: William Escobar on 25/08/2008 23:11:42 Edited by: William Escobar on 25/08/2008 23:07:42 Edited by: William Escobar on 25/08/2008 23:07:32 I've had some success with this..its pretty standard but it can tank pretty darn well, and the damage isn't too bad, especially with t2 drones. High 3xIon II Mid 1x1MN AB II 1xNamed cap injector 1xScrambler II Low 1x DCU II 1x Adaptive Nano II 1x Small armor rep II And trust me.. it's a lot more fun to fly around than any ol' t1 cruiser. Also I should probably read my post before I submit them so I don't have to edit it a thousand times.
Spectre3353 Gallente The Python Cartel	Posted - 2008.08.25 23:13:00 - [6] Originally by: William Escobar Edited by: William Escobar on 25/08/2008 23:07:42 Edited by: William Escobar on 25/08/2008 23:07:32 I've had some success with this..its pretty standard but it can tank pretty darn well, and the damage isn't too bad, especially with t2 drones. Ishkur High 3xIon II Mid 1xMN AB II 1xX-5 proto... and so on 1xScrambler II Low 1x DCU II 1x Adaptive Nano II 1x Small armor rep II And trust me.. it's a lot more fun to fly around than any ol' t1 cruiser. I use that same fit but I usually bring an Explosive Hardener instead of the EANM. Bring a flight of Hob II's and a flight of War II's or bring a flight of small ECM drones instead if you're into that thing. It is a nasty ship that can do a lot of things. I end almost every fight halfway through structure and completely out of cap yet somehow still alive. ----- My Pirate Blog: http://evenewb.blogspot.com/ My Ransom Board: http://www.pcransomboard.com/
Lynal Gallente A Few Good Men.	Posted - 2008.08.25 23:15:00 - [7] well, ive traditionally flown drone boats, flew the myrm, vexor and domi for a long time... so ive got the drone skills i need to fly an ishkur. but lately ive been getting into the blaster boats like the rax, mega, brutix and hype... developed some decent skills for them as well. so i could go either route, just been thinking that for gang work the gunboat might serve better... even though i know the ishkur would be better solo... but then again, im not traditionally a frig pilot so dunno for sure. Originally by: Daeva Vios It's fair when the larger force is on my side. It's lame when the larger force is on their side. How have people not figured this out yet?
Cpt Branko Surge.	Posted - 2008.08.25 23:48:00 - [8] Originally by: Lynal well, ive traditionally flown drone boats, flew the myrm, vexor and domi for a long time... so ive got the drone skills i need to fly an ishkur. but lately ive been getting into the blaster boats like the rax, mega, brutix and hype... developed some decent skills for them as well. so i could go either route, just been thinking that for gang work the gunboat might serve better... even though i know the ishkur would be better solo... but then again, im not traditionally a frig pilot so dunno for sure. Frankly, the thing is that it's generally better in gang, too. It puts more hurt on targets, has a extra mid which can be somewhat useful in a gang (by say, fitting a TD or something) - and it does comparable or better DPS then the Enyo (while having less range, but - less damage loss at ranges you'll be operating at thanks to drones). Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Joss Sparq Caldari ANZAC ALLIANCE Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.26 00:32:00 - [9] After (and before) the patch, the only time I wouldn't want to fly the Ishkur (or any drone boat) is when I'm likely to end up in a large fight where it is likely the node will crash or I'm otherwise likely to be disconnected and lose control of my precious, precious drones. Currently, things look a little bit more positive for Assault Frigates after the proposed changes come into play. For a small gang I'd say flip a coin, personally I enjoy flying the Ishkur more - though I miss being able to launch 4 medium drones like in the pre-bandwidth days.

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