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Miss Mcnasty
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Posted - 2008.08.28 03:00:00 -
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Edited by: Miss Mcnasty on 28/08/2008 03:04:58
 Originally by: Lynal
Originally by: Miss Mcnasty
Originally by: cpt Mark
Well, i was excited when I saw my ship blow up =p.
THAT! Sir is a good attitude to have in eve.. congratulations on getting ganked.. now take some of that 42 mill and buy some needed skills... a focus train... with that attitude you'll have a blast in the eve universe...
... I love meeting guys like this one.. gives me a warm and fuzzy.
yea, its always good to meet people who like seeing their own ships blow up.
its the people who like to see other people's ships blow up even more that give me pause though.
You missed the point..
op came in " I did this this and this and this was the outcome"
final thought "i got excited when my ship blew up"
Ergo he is not a whiney lil ****y pants when it comes to loosing ships (and in my book those types give care bears a bad name those that think that high sec means that they can't get ganked anyway)... therefore he has the right frame of mind and attitude for this game and could very well become a really good player and an asset to someone..... anyone that complains about loosing ships in this game needs to find another hobby... lord knows I'm batting 1000 in the winning battles game but I play by the rules those rules being... don't fly what you can't afford to loose blah blah blah.... once you have that mentality that "you are already dead" then this games becomes a hell of allot more fun.
my 2 cents.. I pay 15.00 a month for it... I am entitled.
Peace and applegrease.
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Temp Boi
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.08.28 08:48:00 -
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hay u guis ir a pirat huntr
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Dykemaster
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Posted - 2008.08.28 08:48:00 -
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Originally by: Temp Boi
hay u guis ir a pirat huntr
o hi thur
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Lieutenant Banzai
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Posted - 2008.08.28 08:49:00 -
[34]
hi
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marakor
Gallente
Anti Lag Forum Smackers
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Posted - 2008.08.28 08:52:00 -
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Pirate hunting is boring cos you need to find pirates to fight, pirating is more fun and you have more targets.
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ECHAeries
The Subtle Knife
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.08.28 09:48:00 -
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Edited by: ECHAeries on 28/08/2008 09:48:59
Quote:
I like the -10 life not because I can shoot anything and everything, but because anything and everything can and will shoot me. For us lazy PVPers its nice to have the fights come to us instead of having to go hunt some poor unsuspecting soul down and kill him.
Yeah its nice being shot at first for a change - although a nightmare to get supllies from empire 
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cpt Mark
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Posted - 2008.08.28 11:32:00 -
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Edited by: cpt Mark on 28/08/2008 11:34:16
Originally by: ECHAeries
Edited by: ECHAeries on 28/08/2008 09:48:59
Quote:
I like the -10 life not because I can shoot anything and everything, but because anything and everything can and will shoot me. For us lazy PVPers its nice to have the fights come to us instead of having to go hunt some poor unsuspecting soul down and kill him.
Yeah its nice being shot at first for a change - although a nightmare to get supllies from empire
I smell a profit here...
Oh and if anyone wants to avenge my death... mail me in game tnx
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sxndy
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.08.28 12:37:00 -
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Noone is safer but the better pilots or gangs with experienced Fleet Commanders tend to live longer.
Pirating is much more fun though, and anti-pirates are players with little peepees that try to make them bigger by putting "Anti-Pie" in their Bio.
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:p
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sliver 0xD
exiles.
The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2008.08.28 13:33:00 -
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Edited by: sliver 0xD on 28/08/2008 13:33:33
there are only 2 kinds of players in eve.
those that want to fight, and those that dont.
if you wane fight your a pirate 
and if you dont your a carebear 
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War Kitten
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Posted - 2008.08.28 14:48:00 -
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I'm pretty sure you have to say Yarrr if you're a pirate too. If you dont' say Yarrr, you're not a proper pirate.
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Avan Sercedos
The Magnificents
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Posted - 2008.08.28 23:08:00 -
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Edited by: Avan Sercedos on 28/08/2008 23:09:42
Originally by: Nexus Kinnon
Edited by: Nexus Kinnon on 27/08/2008 12:23:11
Originally by: cpt Mark
I found myself doing missions
Originally by: cpt Mark
not a carebear hehe
LOGICAL INCONSISTENCY DETECTED
Can I have your man-babies?
.... I'm still an exclamation mark 
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OMG, EXCLAMATION MARK! |
Nexus Kinnon
A Few Good Men.
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Posted - 2008.08.28 23:44:00 -
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sure why not
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doctorstupid2
The Accursed
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Posted - 2008.08.28 23:48:00 -
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Originally by: techzer0
I'm anti-anti-pierat. I shoot anything flashy or that shoots at me and some that aren't flashy, but when they shoot they become flashy so i feel warm and fuzzy inside and i get to shoot a flashy and then there are the non-flashys that dont shoot back but they go FLASH when they explode in the muzzle flare of my autocannons so i still see a flash and sometimes a squishy squish....
ARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
I just shoot things.
I like the way you think.
Abusive | Deadspace | Deadspace2 |
Avan Sercedos
The Magnificents
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Posted - 2008.08.29 02:23:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Nexus Kinnon
sure why not
kay
I use apple pie for lube btw
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DeathEngine
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Posted - 2008.08.29 05:30:00 -
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Nothing is safe.
More safe revolves around either gangs, greater skills/ships or high-sec - note I said "more safe," not safe. But safe is boring.
Further the responses (which i think are more in-tune) that said the progression goes:
Carebear
Anti-Pirate
Pirate
missed only one thing - that is adding "Pure PvPer" to the list.
PvPer's and Pirates are similar, as suggested but can (each) be divided into a further sub-set depending on their drivers - those that have another aim beyond killing (a limiting factor) for example: profit (demanding ransoms etc.); sovereignty (specific war targets, space gain, etc.); maintaining sec-status, etc.
These drivers differentiate them from the purist "thrill-killers" within each branch (Pvp or Pirate) who as the name suggests, just like to waste things and are not interested in mercy and such things.
But as in all things in life the answer is probably not the black and white, but the grey which holds the majority. 
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Lynal
Gallente
A Few Good Men.
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Posted - 2008.08.29 11:52:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Miss Mcnasty
Edited by: Miss Mcnasty on 28/08/2008 03:04:58
Originally by: Lynal
Originally by: Miss Mcnasty
Originally by: cpt Mark
Well, i was excited when I saw my ship blow up =p.
THAT! Sir is a good attitude to have in eve.. congratulations on getting ganked.. now take some of that 42 mill and buy some needed skills... a focus train... with that attitude you'll have a blast in the eve universe...
... I love meeting guys like this one.. gives me a warm and fuzzy.
yea, its always good to meet people who like seeing their own ships blow up.
its the people who like to see other people's ships blow up even more that give me pause though.
You missed the point..
op came in " I did this this and this and this was the outcome"
final thought "i got excited when my ship blew up"
Ergo he is not a whiney lil ****y pants when it comes to loosing ships (and in my book those types give care bears a bad name those that think that high sec means that they can't get ganked anyway)... therefore he has the right frame of mind and attitude for this game and could very well become a really good player and an asset to someone..... anyone that complains about loosing ships in this game needs to find another hobby... lord knows I'm batting 1000 in the winning battles game but I play by the rules those rules being... don't fly what you can't afford to loose blah blah blah.... once you have that mentality that "you are already dead" then this games becomes a hell of allot more fun.
my 2 cents.. I pay 15.00 a month for it... I am entitled.
Peace and applegrease.
lol, i didnt miss the point...
point i was making... i love pilots who just throw themselves under my guns and die nice and easily.
the ones who arent so easy to make go pop though... every once in awhile when i find myself warping (or attempting to do so) off in my pod, i find myself regretting meeting those kinds of people.
i NEVER regret meeting the ones who enjoy seeing their own ships explode though.
Originally by: Daeva Vios
It's fair when the larger force is on my side.
It's lame when the larger force is on their side.
How have people not figured this out yet?
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Cold Sauna
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Posted - 2008.08.29 13:14:00 -
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Carebear = Mining Roids, no interest in PvP.
Pirate = Killing Miners, Industrialists for profit and no fun.
Anti-Pirate = Killing Pirates what is fun.
Pirate Hunter = Missionrunners? lol
Sometimes when i read forumthreads here, the real carebears must be the pirates after what ive seen so far... Its like SOOO much whining all the time about its not easy enough to kill those who are new and unexperienced. And when i was new i was a carebear too, i was mad about how someone just could steal from my can when mining and everything, but these things just solve after a while anyways... Like, what are you gonna do with 10 BS's 15 BC's and s***loads of Cruisers and Frigs anyways? - But anyways as a new player in game having a BC is like sitting in a fortune, so i guess most of those "carebears" these whining pirates are whining about here, must be mostly from that group. Its hard to be a noob allready in this game, but if they not get r***d at once they get into the game im sure they might wanna join up for some pewpew later on.
Have fun! Fly fast and dangerous!
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Syringe
Morphine Inc
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Posted - 2008.08.29 17:31:00 -
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Edited by: Syringe on 29/08/2008 17:34:14
If you want 'safe' WoW is that-a-way 
As for pirates and pirate-hunters there's no difference. I have noticed that pirates tend to be more honest and pirate hunters tend to be self-righteous elitist snobs  (not always the case, but that seems to be the trend), but they're all 'pirates'.
I dropped the 'pirate/anti-pirate' concept a long time ago - now, I'm just a PvPer. I shoot at stuff and sometimes it shoots back. Sometimes it explodes. Sometimes I explode. Either way, fun had by all (well...usually).
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druid 99
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Posted - 2008.08.31 13:09:00 -
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the difrence is if a pirate says something he means it where as the hunter will most likely kill you after u paid a ransom so a priate is to say more honest if he says u die then u die
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Major PewPew
The Dark Horses
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Posted - 2008.09.01 02:50:00 -
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Originally by: cpt Mark
Right, im still new to this game and yesterday I found myself doing missions in 0.4 sector (already not a carebear hehe). Anyhow, on one jump i found myself surrounded by wreckages and some pirates (who were in massive ships and i was in my cruiser Caracal).
So, I thought I'd message them and asked them if i could scavenge the bits they don't need (they take the meat and i take what's left). They said, "Sure go ahead". Not too comforting words, but I decided to take the gamble, and it paid off.
I quickly raised my funds from 400,000 ISK to 42 million ISK (neat eh)? I'm sure this doesn't make me a pirate... I'd prefer the term "Businessman".
Anyhow, a fair bit later these pirates split up, one is left on his own and he gets into a close fight with a passer by. Two more large ships warp in, and start blowing the hell out of him and all the small ships (ME!! and other newbies).
I thought... this is ironic, I was safer with the pirates guarding the gate...
If you're looking for "safe" pvp...Eve isnt the game you want. WoW can be found through Blizzard though. |
Lorzion
Minmatar
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.09.01 02:52:00 -
[51]
A pirate hunter is usually a noob in a Drake with 4 other friends in drakes that get killed as soon as they enter into low sec. |
DutchGunner
Minmatar
Ray of Matar Assembly
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Posted - 2008.09.01 21:47:00 -
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I've been reading this post and i agree to a lot of the posts that has been made.
In my opinion you got all kind of ppl pvping in eve by trying to blow eachother out of their ship and pod if possible. But overall you indeed have 2 "classes" of pvp'ers. The "dark side" and the "bright side", however they are not absolute. You'll find dark ppl in the bright side and the other way around.
Let's start with the "dark side":
Most easy to spot because they tend to have a negative sec. standing. Basicly means they want to pvp and kill ships.
You got the scumbacks that kill only to feel good. They tend to fight the weaker, carebears or gank/blob those when things could get interesting instead of certain victory. They love to boast afterwards on how superior they are and how their victim sucks.
Then there are the nice guys. They try to kill, have fun and/or make a profit. However they don't bother giving tips/hints to help their victims on their way. They will even let ppl go from time to time because they tried to fight back or do something to resist.
The "bright side"
There are the nights in shiny armor who are there to rid the galaxy of evil and save the damsels in need.
Those who like to pvp and don't want to wait/hunt/seek for possible fights. If those ppl see a outlaw they usually think: cool, there's one player who probably likes to pvp.
Now ofcourse you get all sorts of cross breeds. Evil ppl with pos. standings etc.
But to get back on topic.
Overall the "anti-pirate" is safer as you can run into high sec. system if a campbust goes wrong. The help from sentry guns is very handy as it can give you that little edge over your enemies. Especially if they lack numbers or bigger ships (cruisers and smaller tend to die fast with some exceptions ofc. )
Being a pirate means you are restricted in your movement as you can probably not enter (all) high sec. systems. Another downside is that you are fair game for everyone and if you get attacked, sentry guns won't help you out.
So pirate lifestyle is the most challenging when it comes to pvp (everyone could attack you and pirates aren't afraid to be canibals and prey on eachother)
But it is hard to make the difference between pirate and anti-pirate. Easiest difference is:
- those that attack whoever they can and don't bother with their sec. standing
- those that attack whoever they can, but worry about their sec. standing and try to avoid reaching outlaw status
- those that restrict themselves to just fighting the previously stated.
It's not a black or white scenario and you'll find a lot of differentiations all over eve.
Bit of a sidestrawl before answering your question, but i hope it helped 
DutchGunner |
Haitchi Allamut
The Movement
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Posted - 2008.09.01 21:58:00 -
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So Dutch, remind me, which side are you on again? 
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Eternal Error
Exitus Acta Probant
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Posted - 2008.09.02 00:12:00 -
[54]
IMO, NBSI is piracy. However, I have never met a dedicated, self-styled, or whatever term you would use "anti-pirate" that didn't suck at the game. |
Nexus Kinnon
A Few Good Men.
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Posted - 2008.09.02 00:49:00 -
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Originally by: Major PewPew
If you're looking for "safe" pvp...Eve isnt the game you want. WoW can be found through Blizzard though.
Found through blizzard? That doesn't really make that much sense. I assume you meant "through the blizzard website" or something, but really, WE ALL KNOW THAT WOW IS THAT GAME WOT IZ MAKED BUY BLIZZARD so why bother?
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Avan Sercedos
The Magnificents
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Posted - 2008.09.02 02:04:00 -
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OK, OK, tbh, we should just use some simple logic.
Everybody knows that pirates get all the women.
Therefore, ANTI-pirates get no women.
Thusly, pirates get more action.
Vis-a-vis, pirates get more STDs.
Henceforth, anti-pirates die less to STDs.
Ergo, being an anti-pirate is safer. |
Yendaj
Minmatar
Heretic Militia
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Posted - 2008.09.02 07:36:00 -
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Originally by: Cold Sauna
Carebear = Mining Roids, no interest in PvP.
Pirate = Killing Miners, Industrialists for profit and no fun.
Anti-Pirate = Killing Pirates what is fun.
Pirate Hunter = Missionrunners? lol
Sometimes when i read forumthreads here, the real carebears must be the pirates after what ive seen so far... Its like SOOO much whining all the time about its not easy enough to kill those who are new and unexperienced. And when i was new i was a carebear too, i was mad about how someone just could steal from my can when mining and everything, but these things just solve after a while anyways... Like, what are you gonna do with 10 BS's 15 BC's and s***loads of Cruisers and Frigs anyways? - But anyways as a new player in game having a BC is like sitting in a fortune, so i guess most of those "carebears" these whining pirates are whining about here, must be mostly from that group. Its hard to be a noob allready in this game, but if they not get r***d at once they get into the game im sure they might wanna join up for some pewpew later on.
Have fun! Fly fast and dangerous!
What the hell????
This is what is wrong with you high sec whiners..
High sec griefing is NOT pirating!!
Its s****tactics from chicken sh*ts who are too scared to go into low sec and do it right. They give pirates a bad bloody name imo. If half the self proclaimed anti pirates got off their arses and actually went into high sec and war dec'd the well known s****griefers, you would prolly get more enjoyment out of it in your kind of pvp.
Real Pirates dont just shoot things for profit, they shoot things for kill mails, adrenalin (when something shoots back) that "Oooo look shiney" moment when something explodes, the batman song in your head on some occasions..
Jaws theme on others....
SUPPLIES........ as chinese macros come through the gate and you get to waste ammo pew pewing them because everyone in empire screamed out gate camp 40 mins ago..
AUNENEN!!! OH GOD HOW I MISS THEE!!!
I went -10 in a day ... thank the stars above that remote sensor boosting a broadsword catches pods reasonably well.
SQUISH! I have the sounds on to hear the squish. One day we will pave a road to Jita with the corpses.
True pirates dont need a reason or a label, we just bloody well aim and shoot because NBSI is the only way to play eve.
NRDS is honor based and full of stupid people that call themselves anti pirates, they try and justify getting free kills because the hard part of taking sentries and shooting other people is more than they can contend with.... Run back to 0.0 scumbags, you may as well be high sec griefers.. same pair of shoes.
Yarrrrrr!!!
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DutchGunner
Minmatar
Ray of Matar Assembly
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Posted - 2008.09.03 12:51:00 -
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Originally by: Haitchi Allamut
So Dutch, remind me, which side are you on again?
I'm on the bright side Haitchi. Fighting flashy ppl when and where i can
DG
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Syringe
Morphine Inc
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Posted - 2008.09.03 16:31:00 -
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Originally by: Yendaj
Its s****tactics from chicken sh*ts who are too scared to go into low sec and do it right. They give pirates a bad bloody name imo. If half the self proclaimed anti pirates got off their arses and actually went into high sec and war dec'd the well known s****griefers, you would prolly get more enjoyment out of it in your kind of pvp.
I love people like you. The kind that think that low-sec is so much more hardcore. I've done my stretch out there and I've come to discover a couple things. I have no interest in dealing with security status, sentries, zero sec politics, blobs, etc. So I stay in high-sec because that's the game I wanna play.
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Seth McKenzee
Surge.
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Posted - 2008.09.03 17:03:00 -
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Pirates are the ones who make the big red blob on your maps when you look up most dangerous systems. I know for one that my corp/sister corp have turned our home system into one of the top podkilling systems in Eve. NBSI ftw.
Seth McKenzee
CEO of Surge.
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