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Darken Two
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Posted - 2004.06.07 23:19:00 -
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Edited by: Darken Two on 07/06/2004 23:21:38
Jade, thats my point. I'm sick of people calling us pirates one day and next day they are on the forums asking pointed questions about whether we are working with pirates. Its not the PA that has a problem. I suggest the NCA decide whether they are fighting us because we are pirates or for other reasons. Clarify your position first before asking us questions.
As for the forum thing, it was our public forum. The End has as much right to post there as anyone else. After all you will agree we hate you more than himand we let you post. And please dont take that as a personal insult.
As for the whole UNICOR thing, the shades of grey are everywhere and I dont really care whether its closed or open to be honest. And I stand by my last statement. I'm more than happy if the pirates kill every last one of you. But it doent mean I wont try my damned best to kill them pirates if I see them. Both are mutually exclusive. Just because they shoot UNICOR doesnt mean the PA are going to be any more forgiving of their activities.
Ps. Its blatantly obvious that slothe started this thread to get everyone to say PA are collaborating with pirates, so you can cut the "we don't flame" chant.
Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
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Double G
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Posted - 2004.06.07 23:21:00 -
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 Originally by: Aerick Dawn
omg who gives a crap honestly.
Revol's standings look like a freaking pirate love fest. Do we care what other people think? No.
...And in case you do care? We dont care.
That is very respectable. Just get rid of the FU tag and you might not be half bad.
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ISD Posted - 2004.10.02 17:43:00
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Well moderatly old thread got bumped, let it sit a while to see if it was going anywhere... it isn't so im gonna put this old dog down
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KIAInkZ
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Posted - 2004.06.07 23:21:00 -
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Edited by: KIAInkZ on 07/06/2004 23:23:49
Image removed. Don't psot images. - Orestes
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Sun Ra
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Posted - 2004.06.07 23:23:00 -
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Originally by: Darken Two
Originally by: Sun Ra
Originally by: ElCoCo
Like RKK teamed up with evolution-prolly PA's most "hated" enemy- to attack us...I know evol are not pirates.... but your old friends to team up with your worst enemy is too much -for me- to swallow... that's my personal opinion, no flames plz[/i]
Difference is evol have been long time friends of ours, we've ha dpa corps ask why we have them +10, few weeks ago you guys would have shot at the 'pirates' now you dont and they dont shoot at you hmm sounds like a NAP to me, so are PA anti-rat or not?
Didnt RKK already declare us pirates? Why the question now? or are you having second thoughts?
No because your so hard lined about being anti-pirates
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2004.06.07 23:24:00 -
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Double G, you have a scary portrait dude.
Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
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Double G
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Posted - 2004.06.07 23:24:00 -
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Originally by: Darken Two
Double G, you have a scary portrait dude.
I am EBIL, that must be why. 
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ISD Posted - 2004.10.02 17:43:00
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Well moderatly old thread got bumped, let it sit a while to see if it was going anywhere... it isn't so im gonna put this old dog down
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KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2004.06.07 23:25:00 -
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Edited by: KIAEddZ on 07/06/2004 23:27:34
lmfao InkZ
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=176347
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2004.06.07 23:26:00 -
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Originally by: Sun Ra
Originally by: Darken Two
Originally by: Sun Ra
Originally by: ElCoCo
Like RKK teamed up with evolution-prolly PA's most "hated" enemy- to attack us...I know evol are not pirates.... but your old friends to team up with your worst enemy is too much -for me- to swallow... that's my personal opinion, no flames plz[/i]
Difference is evol have been long time friends of ours, we've ha dpa corps ask why we have them +10, few weeks ago you guys would have shot at the 'pirates' now you dont and they dont shoot at you hmm sounds like a NAP to me, so are PA anti-rat or not?
Didnt RKK already declare us pirates? Why the question now? or are you having second thoughts?
No because your so hard lined about being anti-pirates
We believe we are anti-pirate. Whats that got to do with you? We also believe RKK are bad people, doesnt make you so does it?
And you believe we are dishonorable scum, does that mean we take your word for it?
Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
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limpy bint
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Posted - 2004.06.07 23:26:00 -
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Edited by: limpy bint on 07/06/2004 23:31:35
Its useless to deny it any more, look at all the evidence they have. Its true CDI is paying Silent Guard/BioMass 1,000,000,000,000,000 for every battleship we can kill. Havocide has also rejoined the darkside to better coordinate things between us and the PA. You will all die the ebil pirates are gonna attack you all. MUAHAHAHAHAHA
Limpy Bint
Edit to better comply with my PA masters wishes.
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2004.06.07 23:29:00 -
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Originally by: limpy bint
Its useless to deny it any more, look at all the evidence they have. Its true CDI is paying Silent Guard/BioMass 1,000,000,000,000,000 for every battleship we can kill. Havocide has also rejoined the darkside to better coordinate things between us and the PA. You will all die the ebil pirates are gonna attack you all. 
Limpy Bint
You forgot the MUAHAHAHAHAHA
Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
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Blockoindi
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Posted - 2004.06.07 23:31:00 -
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Edited by: Blockoindi on 07/06/2004 23:33:18
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Blockoindi
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Posted - 2004.06.07 23:32:00 -
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Originally by: Blockoindi
Originally by: limpy bint
Edited by: limpy bint on 07/06/2004 23:31:35
Its useless to deny it any more, look at all the evidence they have. Its true CDI is paying Silent Guard/BioMass 1,000,000,000,000,000 for every battleship we can kill. Havocide has also rejoined the darkside to better coordinate things between us and the PA. You will all die the ebil pirates are gonna attack you all. MUAHAHAHAHAHA
Limpy Bint
Edit to better comply with my PA masters wishes.
We are gonna be foooooooking rich then!!!
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Psyanide
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Posted - 2004.06.07 23:33:00 -
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Edited by: Psyanide on 07/06/2004 23:38:41
Edited by: Psyanide on 07/06/2004 23:36:18
Edited by: Psyanide on 07/06/2004 23:35:06
Edited by: Psyanide on 07/06/2004 23:34:54
'A lot of things to correct you on here. First we are +2 to mOo because we have some of the same enemies. Second, we haven't pledged support to mOo (why would they need it?). Third I don't think we have chummy little chinwag chatls on our forums between Jericho and the Pirate Syndicate (unlike the PA).'
You have a positive standing to one of the most notorius Pirate groups in Eve..... And you then DARE to critise another party for having another pirate group as neutral..... ummm.... Snake tongue
'Unicore is not a closed space alliance. Nor have they been "given" Tribute and Vale. If you are going to make points Darken, do keep them within the realms of reality please.'
I'll give you this.... slightly out of the bounds of reality.
'Unicore is not a closed space alliance. Nor have they been "given" Tribute and Vale. If you are going to make points Darken, do keep them within the realms of reality please.'
Unicore have claimed the space they occupy..... and you are critising your enemies for not invading one of your allies to kill their enemies, I believe the PA has enough enemies at home without having to go pirate hunting in someone else's territory....
'Once suspects you don't speak for the majority there.'
As you would appear to be attacking the PA it really doesnt matter what you suspect as your opinion is suspect to say the least....
'Bare in mind that I personally believe this "pirate" issue is so much hogwash. The "you're a pirate" "no you are" "no no no you are" argument is trite and pathetic. '
Once again I agree...... BOTH sides have skeletons in their closets, both sides should stop the claims and counter claims.... and should get on with shooting each other and destroying each others ships....
******* Please note for the smaller corps As a hauler/manufacturer I would be more than willing to accept contracts from either side to shift ore around in Empire if your peopel are otherwise engaged.... My rates are excellent, I can also manufacture (5/5) and would be more than willing to make any ship for any side (ok... shameless plug over).... obviously there would be a charge to cover the cost of the BP's, if you supply the minerals the price becomes exceptionally competative)*****
'I do however think its hypocrital to claim to be anti pirate while making informal deals with pirate syndicates. I would respect you much more if you came out and admitted it.'
As no doubt the other side would love for you to come out and acknowledge that not only do you have friendly contacts and attitudes to pirate corps, but no doubt you wont do that either.....
******Now... if anyone does want ships built, minerals hauled please contact me in game... I would be more than willing to provide price lists on requests. Please note.... I operate in empire only, no contract will be accepted that involves moving outside 0.5 and below empire space*****
Now please... get back to killing each other.... the efforts of both sides are doign much to keep the industrial cogs of Eve turning... I wish you all the best of luck in the destruction of your enemies.....
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Gafton
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Posted - 2004.06.07 23:35:00 -
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Edited by: Gafton on 07/06/2004 23:37:28
Fine jade you've lowered your rating to +2 yay for you. At the time we declared on your corp you were at +10 with them. I got screenies to prove it.
I should also mention that we in no way support ca. You're just spouting baseless accusations.
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I do however think its hypocrital to claim to be anti pirate while making informal deals with pirate syndicates.
Like the informal deal where you dont shoot at moo in curse space, and they dont shoot at you? That kind of informal deal? Or was it a formal deal? Hypocracy works both ways jade. Theres no reason why we cant sit back and watch as pirates fight our enemies. I highly doubt you would do anything different. Wasnt your original intent on posting the halseth log where he's talking about ca to make them attack the pa? Would you be using them to the same purpose we are?
As for the JPA, it suits jericho. You did your private convos and manipulations to get people onto your "side". The fact that we told them you were manipulating them didnt seem to matter. And so the jade puppet alliance was born. A puppet is a tool. It cant do anything for itself, it relies on someone else usually behind the scenes to pull the strings. When you get enough puppets together you get a show. You should take it as a compliment jade on your manipulation skills.
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PerrinAybarra
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Posted - 2004.06.07 23:36:00 -
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well if it's not a closed system why do i find these markings on cans
UNICOR CLAIMED SPACE - NO MINING ALLOWED - FOR TRAVEL OR NPC FARMING PLS CONTACT THE UNICOR CHANNEL
in 3USX-F system and other areas
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2004.06.07 23:40:00 -
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Originally by: PerrinAybarra
well if it's not a closed system why do i find these markings on cans
UNICOR CLAIMED SPACE - NO MINING ALLOWED - FOR TRAVEL OR NPC FARMING PLS CONTACT THE UNICOR CHANNEL
in 3USX-F system and other areas
Because its open space free to all neutrals to mine and npc hunt. The cans are just a clever decption to fool PA members like me.
Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
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Aerick Dawn
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Posted - 2004.06.07 23:42:00 -
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double g, I see cao is working on ya. :)
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The End
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Posted - 2004.06.07 23:42:00 -
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Edited by: The End on 07/06/2004 23:43:30
Claiming Space Pic
They Put those cans up. but since we have been taking out there cans as a token of our generousity :)
Jade Looked the other way when i showed her this pic.
afterall she just wants to take out PA no matter what :)
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Left
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Posted - 2004.06.07 23:43:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine
Unicore is not a closed space alliance. Nor have they been "given" Tribute and Vale. If you are going to make points Darken, do keep them within the realms of reality please.
I think Perrin was reffering to this?
Linkagehttp://users.htcomp.net/goat/unicor1.jpg
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2004.06.07 23:46:00 -
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Edited by: Darken Two on 07/06/2004 23:57:32
Originally by: The End
Edited by: The End on 07/06/2004 23:43:30
Claiming Space Pic
They Put those cans up. but since we have been taking out there cans as a token of our generousity :)
Jade Looked the other way when i showed her this pic.
afterall she just wants to take out PA no matter what :)
Thank you The End. After Jades lengthy post refuting my statements, you have just proved that I was right after all.
Jade, care to comment?
Ps. Thank you Left as well.
Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
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Col Maxxe
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Posted - 2004.06.07 23:58:00 -
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LoL, this discussion is ju too sad. Think I'll login and take the C4C-station again...
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KIAHicks
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Posted - 2004.06.08 00:09:00 -
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Edited by: KIAHicks on 08/06/2004 00:13:36
It's a pretty simple concept from where I'm sitting. I can't beleive how many of you fail to "get it".
If you jump into a system during your travels and see one of your enemy's getting the %$ú% kicked out of them by pirates, you let the pirates feast and don't stick around to be their next meal.
Of course if you outnumber the pirates, you might help the pirates kill your main enemy and then kill the pirates.
The above is assuming you hate your "enemy" more than the "pirates" if not swap terms around.
Remove pirates from the equation and instead have yourself jumping into a system where two of your enemys are fighting.
In this case you either bug out and leave em to it, either way one of your enemys should get a kicking :)
Or you decide which one you hate the most and attack them first then the 2nd enemy. OR you attack the one you hate the most and run before the 2nd can train their sights on you.
The in-game politics and player dynamics are so complicated that it is feasible for you to be fighting an arch enemy whilst that enemy is also fighting your enemy. In no way does that mean your teaming up to fight your common enemy.
Although the enemy of my enemy is my friend, this does not always apply when the enemy of my enemy is also my enemy.
PS Feel free to nit pick the above hypothetical arguements, I'm sure with enough work the ideas I'm trying to convey can be turned around and twisted into a different meaning. That said, I hope anyone with an ounce of brainpower can see where I'm coming from.
Keenon: "After sitting in the system for FIVE hours without even a (go away)"...
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Robotek Hybrid
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Posted - 2004.06.08 02:30:00 -
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oohhh... it got quiet reeeaall fast huh?
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limpy bint
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Posted - 2004.06.08 02:41:00 -
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Originally by: Robotek Hybrid
oohhh... it got quiet reeeaall fast huh?
I think hicks confused everybody!
Limpy Bint
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.06.08 02:43:00 -
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Edited by: Jade Constantine on 08/06/2004 02:44:49
Been playing the game all evening not watching forum crap.
Still since you bring it up.
Ends and Darken two you are wrong. Ask Robeyone, as having spied on our forums he will be able to tell you about the dialogue with EV and Unicor that led to them withdrawing those cans and relinguishing the closed space claim. EV and Unicore proved fine and honourable friends and were prepared to meet their allies halfway to keep everyone happy.
Gafton ... well, whatever. Just come and fight, I was very disappointed not to see you with the OCC gate camp tonight. Less rubbish on the forums more fighting Gafton. It might do you good.
On the basic issue its this:
PA have made a big (and I mean BIG) point about being anti pirate in everything, and many of their corporations CTEK (Mitchello) for example are absolutely rabid anti pirates to the extent that he believes all pirates should be hung and crucified.
Hence it is hypocrital for PA to make a deal of convenience with the pirate syndicate.
Thats just the way it is.
No spin or personal insults are going to change that much.
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Presidio
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Posted - 2004.06.08 02:46:00 -
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Patience, we have plenty of cannon fodder where we are now. Next week we may move. You never know.
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Mao Tse-tung
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limpy bint
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Posted - 2004.06.08 03:01:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine
Edited by: Jade Constantine on 08/06/2004 02:44:49
Been playing the game all evening not watching forum crap.
Still since you bring it up.
Ends and Darken two you are wrong. Ask Robeyone, as having spied on our forums he will be able to tell you about the dialogue with EV and Unicor that led to them withdrawing those cans and relinguishing the closed space claim. EV and Unicore proved fine and honourable friends and were prepared to meet their allies halfway to keep everyone happy.
Gafton ... well, whatever. Just come and fight, I was very disappointed not to see you with the OCC gate camp tonight. Less rubbish on the forums more fighting Gafton. It might do you good.
On the basic issue its this:
PA have made a big (and I mean BIG) point about being anti pirate in everything, and many of their corporations CTEK (Mitchello) for example are absolutely rabid anti pirates to the extent that he believes all pirates should be hung and crucified.
Hence it is hypocrital for PA to make a deal of convenience with the pirate syndicate.
Thats just the way it is.
No spin or personal insults are going to change that much.
There is no deal. They just prefer to kill you more than me. :P
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juduzz
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Posted - 2004.06.08 03:06:00 -
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Quote:
There is no deal. They just prefer to kill you more than me. :P
Isnt that a universal constant? 
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2004.06.08 03:07:00 -
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What Limpy said.
Mind tellin me what this "deal" is cos I'm sure a lot of the PA are curious about how everyone else seems to know about a deal we didnt make.
Ps. Limpy I'll give you 1 gazillion jillion isk to kill everyone I hate.
Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
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Bobby Wilson
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Posted - 2004.06.08 03:20:00 -
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Originally by: Darken Two
What Limpy said.
Mind tellin me what this "deal" is cos I'm sure a lot of the PA are curious about how everyone else seems to know about a deal we didnt make.
Ps. Limpy I'll give you 1 gazillion jillion isk to kill everyone I hate.
OMG, we have to pay THEM? They told me they pay me in Isk, drugs AND dates with hot pirate babes!
BW
Originally by: Selim
Cool, congrats.
Oh, stupid idea by the way.
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