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Verx Interis Amarr Aurora Security Cosmic Anomalies	Posted - 2008.08.29 21:48:00 - [1] Edited by: Verx Interis on 29/08/2008 21:49:15 Mostly out of curiosity, but also to show a few people the scale of Eve, I wanted to try to work a list of all the professions in Eve. I'm not concerned with how much you can get from it, as long as it's a legit method. I'll update this post as more get mentioned that I didn't think of Also, please try to keep whines/flames/rants out of here. I don't really give a damn about your opinion on X or Y so just forget about it. The list (so far): -------------------- Mission Running Ratting Mining and selling minerals Mining and manufacturing Researching and selling BPCs Suicide Ganking Looting from PvP Ransoming Ninja Salvaging Selling invented BPCs Inventing and manufacturing Moon mining Moon mineral reactions Trading (buying and selling in the same station) Freighting (buying one place, selling another) Contract scamming Offering various services: -------------------- Mercenary contracts Hisec labs Anything not mentioned (preferably under services, that list is a bit pathetic right now) is appreciated. Originally by: Rawr Cristina (dreadnoughts are also possibly the most boring ship you could fly. It's like mining, without the part where you make money)
masternerdguy	Posted - 2008.08.29 21:49:00 - [2] you forgot contract scamming like i do
Verx Interis Amarr Aurora Security Cosmic Anomalies	Posted - 2008.08.29 21:49:00 - [3] Originally by: masternerdguy you forgot contract scamming like i do God damn that was fast. Added. Originally by: Rawr Cristina (dreadnoughts are also possibly the most boring ship you could fly. It's like mining, without the part where you make money)
Roy Batty68 Caldari Immortal Dead	Posted - 2008.08.29 21:57:00 - [4] When I first started playing I remember reading a post where some guy was offering his services as a Moon Surveyor. Basically he would go on contract to go survey all the moons in a sytem, constellation, whatever for a price per moon deal. I thought it sounded incredibly boring. But! It did impress me that Eve appeared to be open enough to allow people to make up their own fee for service sort of deals. Sig removed, inappropriate content. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Piru Industrial	Posted - 2008.08.29 21:57:00 - [5] i think you should add general scamming into it. ive been scammed big but it wasnt a contract scam. it was a social engineering scam. but yeah i would put scamming in general in there. metal legs
Benco97 Gallente The Star League	Posted - 2008.08.29 21:58:00 - [6] Edited by: Benco97 on 29/08/2008 22:03:07 Dilettante No-good bum Mobile Scenery Archaeologist These are genuine professions that I have performed during my time in EVE. Edit- No, I really mean it, at least Archaeology is real. Originally by: P'uck You're a DUMBASS - bold italic underline at the VERY LEAST.
Opertone Caldari SIEGE. The Border Patrol	Posted - 2008.08.29 21:58:00 - [7] Exploration is a big profession can flipping, griefing and exploiting faction standing grinds for new corps Bounty hunting (would be a profession) macro and farming (isk in abundance) character breeding (for future resell)
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar Genos Occidere	Posted - 2008.08.29 21:59:00 - [8] For job security in highsec, become a trashman... clean the mission space of the wrecks! Originally by: Lorz0r garmon is 90% Surfin's PlunderBunny, 10% er...Surfin's PlunderBunny
Verx Interis Amarr Aurora Security Cosmic Anomalies	Posted - 2008.08.29 22:02:00 - [9] Edited by: Verx Interis on 29/08/2008 22:02:08 Added under jobs: Can flipping Bounty hunting Character sales General scamming Begging Added under services: Moon Surveyor Originally by: Rawr Cristina (dreadnoughts are also possibly the most boring ship you could fly. It's like mining, without the part where you make money)
Pithecanthropus	Posted - 2008.08.29 22:03:00 - [10] Edited by: Pithecanthropus on 29/08/2008 22:05:02 drug labs alloy refine and drone space tax collector (outpost income) component manufacturer research (datacore seller) faction war militias FCs CEOs recruiters accountants directors corp theives haulers contract hauler --------------------------------- Pithecanthropus erectus, a name derived from Greek and Latin roots meaning upright ape-man.
masternerdguy	Posted - 2008.08.29 22:04:00 - [11] corpse salvaging and sale
Sheriff Jones Amarr Clinical Experiment	Posted - 2008.08.29 22:05:00 - [12] Comedian What? I've made 40mil of it this week! My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
masternerdguy	Posted - 2008.08.29 22:06:00 - [13] i run a gameshow in the militia chat sometimes kind of like highly science oriented jeopardy but i lose money on that.
5pinDizzy Amarr Umpteenth Podding	Posted - 2008.08.29 22:06:00 - [14] Originally by: Verx Interis Edited by: Verx Interis on 29/08/2008 21:49:15 The list (so far): -------------------- L4 Mission Running 0.0 Carebear Industrialist Mission Running level 4's. Theif/Scammer 0.0 carebear Running level 4's Level 4 runner Margin Trading Offering various services: -------------------- Hire repo. Scam offers. Fixed for the ones that overlap. I think that paints a more accurate picture.
Norma Stitz	Posted - 2008.08.29 22:06:00 - [15] You missed one 'forum list maker'
Armoured C Gallente The Aztecs Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.08.29 22:08:00 - [16] drug cartel or booster cartel
masternerdguy	Posted - 2008.08.29 22:09:00 - [17] you missed lp farmer 0.0 pirate lp farmer corpse salvaging (its real you go to a battle area when the battle is over, scoop the corpses, and sell em 2 bounty hunters or put em on contract)
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2008.08.29 22:09:00 - [18] You get to see a lot of nice scenery scanning moons, and it's quite relaxing. - DesuSigs
imouttahere	Posted - 2008.08.29 22:14:00 - [19] Corp/Alliance Creation. Intelligence gathering services/Spy. POS anchoring services. Jump clone services.
Verx Interis Amarr Aurora Security Cosmic Anomalies	Posted - 2008.08.29 22:14:00 - [20] Edited by: Verx Interis on 29/08/2008 22:15:02 This is hard to keep up with. Added under jobs: Drug sales Researching and selling datacores Faction warfare Corp theft Corpse salvaging and sale Added under services: Courier contract filling Hauling Providing entertainment in chat channels At some point I'm going to modify the list to have related professions together, preferably after the storm of posts ends Originally by: Norma Stitz You missed one 'forum list maker' Once I start getting money for this post then I'll put it up there Originally by: Rawr Cristina (dreadnoughts are also possibly the most boring ship you could fly. It's like mining, without the part where you make money)
Armoured C Gallente The Aztecs Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.08.29 22:21:00 - [21] protester ... as in for the minmatar gay right movement corperation and yes it actually exists with the CEO being backdoor bandit hilarious picture avatar
masternerdguy	Posted - 2008.08.29 22:22:00 - [22] ur forgetting....... ganking macro miners ganking isk farmers
Nexus Kinnon A Few Good Men.	Posted - 2008.08.29 22:23:00 - [23] Bitter veteran that doesn't undock and just posts on forums
Verx Interis Amarr Aurora Security Cosmic Anomalies	Posted - 2008.08.29 22:26:00 - [24] Added to jobs: Ganking ISK farmers Originally by: masternerdguy ur forgetting....... ganking macro miners ganking isk farmers That partially goes with suicide ganking but if its in lowsec it's different. They're close enough though, someone using a macro is farming isk. Originally by: Armoured C protester ... as in for the minmatar gay right movement corperation and yes it actually exists with the CEO being backdoor bandit hilarious picture avatar You're shitting me? Does he get money for it? Originally by: Rawr Cristina (dreadnoughts are also possibly the most boring ship you could fly. It's like mining, without the part where you make money)
Norma Stitz	Posted - 2008.08.29 22:28:00 - [25] Originally by: Verx Interis Edited by: Verx Interis on 29/08/2008 22:15:02 This is hard to keep up with. Added under jobs: Drug sales Researching and selling datacores Faction warfare Corp theft Corpse salvaging and sale Added under services: Courier contract filling Hauling Providing entertainment in chat channels At some point I'm going to modify the list to have related professions together, preferably after the storm of posts ends Originally by: Norma Stitz You missed one 'forum list maker' Once I start getting money for this post then I'll put it up there 10mill sent :) its a job now
Opertone Caldari SIEGE. The Border Patrol	Posted - 2008.08.29 22:29:00 - [26] hey, pinning down Exploration sites in covops is a big deal... i sell the can with bookmarks regardless of what can be gained there or ask for 20% if it looks good
Zaknussem Caldari The Ironbreakers	Posted - 2008.08.29 22:30:00 - [27] Said anyone said "griefer" yet? This list won't ever be complete if you leave that one out.
Verx Interis Amarr Aurora Security Cosmic Anomalies	Posted - 2008.08.29 22:34:00 - [28] Edited by: Verx Interis on 29/08/2008 22:35:29 Edited by: Verx Interis on 29/08/2008 22:34:40 Added: Extortionist wardecing Exploration Making posts on forums (Tarm comes to mind) Originally by: Opertone hey, pinning down Exploration sites in covops is a big deal... i sell the can with bookmarks regardless of what can be gained there or ask for 20% if it looks good I thought I added that.. Well it's there now Originally by: Zaknussem Said anyone said "griefer" yet? This list won't ever be complete if you leave that one out. Griefer is going to be a category on the refined list, which will include Suicide ganking, Can flipping, and Extortionist war declarations Originally by: Norma Stitz 10mill sent :) its a job now I also remembered Tarm's services. That counts. Originally by: Rawr Cristina (dreadnoughts are also possibly the most boring ship you could fly. It's like mining, without the part where you make money)
masternerdguy	Posted - 2008.08.29 22:36:00 - [29] protection racketerring
masternerdguy	Posted - 2008.08.29 22:40:00 - [30] Originally by: Verx Interis Originally by: masternerdguy protection racketerring Say what? Is that basically saying "Give us money or we kill you?" If so, better name than what I came up with no its when you charge for a resource or kill em
Verx Interis Amarr Aurora Security Cosmic Anomalies	Posted - 2008.08.29 22:42:00 - [31] Originally by: masternerdguy Originally by: Verx Interis Originally by: masternerdguy protection racketerring Say what? Is that basically saying "Give us money or we kill you?" If so, better name than what I came up with no its when you charge for a resource or kill em ISK is a resource. Originally by: Rawr Cristina (dreadnoughts are also possibly the most boring ship you could fly. It's like mining, without the part where you make money)
Treelox Amarr Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party	Posted - 2008.08.29 22:42:00 - [32] You forgot "Forum Warrior". There are a fair few who are logged into the eve-o forums way more than they are ever logged into the game. --
Verx Interis Amarr Aurora Security Cosmic Anomalies	Posted - 2008.08.29 22:43:00 - [33] Originally by: Treelox You forgot "Forum Warrior". There are a fair few who are logged into the eve-o forums way more than they are ever logged into the game. I have "Making forum posts" up there. It's the same thing really. Originally by: Rawr Cristina (dreadnoughts are also possibly the most boring ship you could fly. It's like mining, without the part where you make money)
Treelox Amarr Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party	Posted - 2008.08.29 22:44:00 - [34] Originally by: Verx Interis Originally by: Treelox You forgot "Forum Warrior". There are a fair few who are logged into the eve-o forums way more than they are ever logged into the game. I have "Making forum posts" up there. It's the same thing really. is it ;) --
Verx Interis Amarr Aurora Security Cosmic Anomalies	Posted - 2008.08.29 22:54:00 - [35] The new list that's less "Wall of text-y" has arrived. Originally by: Rawr Cristina (dreadnoughts are also possibly the most boring ship you could fly. It's like mining, without the part where you make money)
Norma Stitz	Posted - 2008.08.29 22:58:00 - [36] i'm not sure about the classification of forum posting its a lot nearer griefing than 'other' as this post proves
Verx Interis Amarr Aurora Security Cosmic Anomalies	Posted - 2008.08.29 23:02:00 - [37] Originally by: Norma Stitz i'm not sure about the classification of forum posting its a lot nearer griefing than 'other' as this post proves I don't quite see how this post is griefing.. Whines are close to griefing, and most people don't get money from them. Originally by: Rawr Cristina (dreadnoughts are also possibly the most boring ship you could fly. It's like mining, without the part where you make money)
riggerz	Posted - 2008.08.29 23:33:00 - [38] You missed "Pimp" Yes once upon a time a player or two (definatley one) made money by getting some his female pilot freinds (RL) to cyber for his clients at a cost. Worked well too.
Nose Snot	Posted - 2008.08.29 23:37:00 - [39] Cosmos
Nose Snot	Posted - 2008.08.29 23:39:00 - [40] POS refueler carrier jumping services fleet scout
Verx Interis Amarr Aurora Security Cosmic Anomalies	Posted - 2008.08.29 23:51:00 - [41] Added under jobs: COSMOS (other since I don't know anything about how COSMOS works) Added under services: POS refueler Carrier jumping Scouting/Escort Originally by: Rawr Cristina (dreadnoughts are also possibly the most boring ship you could fly. It's like mining, without the part where you make money)
Whosyour Daddy Trinity Church of Holy Righteousness	Posted - 2008.08.30 00:15:00 - [42] Not going to read every post, but has anyone mentioned PIRATE? much to be made from looting/ransoming. ------------------------------- Originally by: thisiswrong I tried to petitin to get my sec back up but the gm turned me down ok CCP thats it im cancelling my account.
Neth'Rae Gallente Decorum Inc Tygris Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.30 00:22:00 - [43] Edited by: Neth''Rae on 30/08/2008 00:22:39 What about: Out of Game - Making Websites, Graphics and signatures - Renting web/ventrilo/ts-servers - Trolling for Isk Dey see me trollin, dey hatin, moddin they tryin to catch me postin dirty..
5pinDizzy Amarr Umpteenth Podding	Posted - 2008.08.30 01:07:00 - [44] Move ganking isk farmers from under the griefing subheading to underneath services tbh.
Verx Interis Amarr Aurora Security Cosmic Anomalies	Posted - 2008.08.30 01:36:00 - [45] Originally by: 5pinDizzy Move ganking isk farmers from under the griefing subheading to underneath services tbh. You make a point.. but services is the thing where you get paid to do boring things for other people. Basically, it needs a client to be a service. So while it is a service to the general eve community, it can't go there. I also added the OOG ISK making methods, except for trolling for ISK, which is basically forum posting. Originally by: Rawr Cristina (dreadnoughts are also possibly the most boring ship you could fly. It's like mining, without the part where you make money)
Arvald Caldari Ninjas N Pirates Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.08.30 03:14:00 - [46] List of eve profesions, find what you love to do and find someone who will pay you for it
Athre Minmatar The Higher Standard	Posted - 2008.08.30 03:17:00 - [47] Auditor (both pre Venture Capitalist plan (IPO) or regularly made corp audits) Consultant (advice on how to do things better) Retailer (buys from MFC at a discount and then sells on the market) Faction Standing Ho (for POS placement)
Verx Interis Amarr Aurora Security Cosmic Anomalies	Posted - 2008.08.30 05:25:00 - [48] Originally by: Arvald List of eve profesions, find what you love to do and find someone who will pay you for it Yes, I know But this can help people get started. Chances are there's something in here they like. I'd probably like anything if I didn't have to spend so much time getting skills for whatever it is. Except for missions.. Originally by: Rawr Cristina (dreadnoughts are also possibly the most boring ship you could fly. It's like mining, without the part where you make money)
Trathen Minmatar SniggWaffe	Posted - 2008.08.30 05:38:00 - [49] These are just professions that may make ISK, right? I don't see mine on the list. _
Verx Interis Amarr Aurora Security Cosmic Anomalies	Posted - 2008.08.30 06:03:00 - [50] Originally by: Trathen These are just professions that may make ISK, right? I don't see mine on the list. Well.. tell me what yours is. Originally by: Rawr Cristina (dreadnoughts are also possibly the most boring ship you could fly. It's like mining, without the part where you make money)
Krxon Blade Apogee Group	Posted - 2008.08.30 07:24:00 - [51] Out of game Making EVE related flash mini games I've earned some donation ISK with those This for example. Rest is in my sig. -- Eve battle simulator EVE character creator Eve offline game
Tharukan Desm'ar Gallente The Ninth Circle Accord Corporate Enterprise Syndicate	Posted - 2008.08.30 09:47:00 - [52] Salvager. I know a few friends who just salvage for lazy people in their missions and they get to keep a part of the haul whilst saving the missioner time.
Wild Rho Amarr Silent Core	Posted - 2008.08.30 10:20:00 - [53] Necrophilia.
Bluddwolf Brutor tribe	Posted - 2008.08.30 11:10:00 - [54] under Industry: Salvaging Scrap Metal refining
Kazuo Ishiguro House of Marbles Zzz	Posted - 2008.08.30 13:17:00 - [55] How about POS landlord? I rent mine out to a few other people for their R&D. Zzz research towers Direrie NEW: Liekuri 20:1 low-end compression
EBANK Ricdic Eve-Tech Savings n Loans	Posted - 2008.08.30 13:43:00 - [56] Banking
Rufus MacMaranth Gallente Shadow Front Tread Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.30 13:56:00 - [57] Haven't seen: margin trading Item reprocessing anywhere.
Sicil Fioet Minmatar	Posted - 2008.08.30 14:03:00 - [58] providing consultation type services i've also see somebody offering to raise custom built characters for others for profit
Roy Batty68 Caldari Immortal Dead	Posted - 2008.08.30 14:18:00 - [59] There used to be a guy who ran a **** site paid for with isk for membership. No joke. Was called the Pleasure Zone (or whatever that gallente station deal is/was... gone with premium graphics ). Anyway, this thing was accessible via the igb and actually made him some iskies while it ran for it's relatively short lifespan. I don't know what profession that would be labeled, but you gotta admit it was pretty unique. Sig removed, inappropriate content. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Glengrant TOHA Heavy Industries	Posted - 2008.08.30 15:42:00 - [60] Edited by: Glengrant on 30/08/2008 15:44:15 -Trading (buying and selling in the same station) -Freighting (buying one place, selling another) IMHO these are the wrong distinctions. Instead: - Trader: buys stuff to sell for profit (doesn't matter where) - Hauler: Moves stuff for others for a fee (the fee is usually based on volume and distance but value can play a role) And it's effectively double listed under "other" and "services" --- Save the forum: Think before you post. ISK BUYER = LOOSER EVE TV- Bring it back!
Ami Nia	Posted - 2008.08.30 16:47:00 - [61] Financial services: Banking, for example (there are a few). IPO Investor can probably be considered a profession too, as well as Shares Trader. Volunteering in ISD programs, can that be considered a profession? I think so even if it does not pay isks. And what would have been the profession of Innominate Nightmare? Blogging? It sure as hell was enjoyable for both him and the others, and it did earn him money (and love and respect, he's surely missed by many). Running ingame games (poker, lottery etc) As you listed "Making websites" you'd probably also have to list "Making OOG tools", there're many of those that do not involve websites (EveMon, EFT, EHQ, ESM etc.)
Xevan Templar 7th Batavian Squadron	Posted - 2008.08.30 17:02:00 - [62] -Making forum posts - should be under -out game- I guess Maybe to add one, I did read that somebody is actually having a cemetery within a POS, technicaly speaking it makes that person an Undertaker.
Jenny Superfood	Posted - 2008.08.30 18:02:00 - [63] What about plain theft? By that I don't mean corp thefts, but just taking stuff that's floating out in space. It's a close relative of ninja salvaging, so if it needs to be added, I would suggest replacing "ninja salvaging" with "ninja salvaging/looting".
Joe Starbreaker Starbreaker Frigateers	Posted - 2008.08.31 03:02:00 - [64] STICKY!!! Originally by: VicturusTeSaluto All piracy is built upon honoring one's word.
Saju Somtaaw Gallente Department of Defence	Posted - 2008.08.31 03:19:00 - [65] I'm not sure the ISK farmer one should be under "Griefing" ---- --- --- My views don't represent those of my corporation or alliance.
soldieroffortune 258 Gallente Federal Defence Union	Posted - 2008.08.31 03:31:00 - [66] Edited by: soldieroffortune 258 on 31/08/2008 03:32:10 Originally by: Verx Interis Edited by: Verx Interis on 30/08/2008 03:47:39 The refined list is here! Mostly out of curiosity, but also to show a few people the scale of Eve, I wanted to try to work a list of all the professions in Eve. I'm not concerned with how much you can get from it, as long as it's a legit method. Please try to keep whines/flames/rants out of here. I don't really give a damn about your opinion on X or Y so just forget about it. The list: --------------------- NPC killing -Mission Running -Ratting -Collecting drone alloys Industry -Mining and selling minerals -Mining and manufacturing -Moon mining -Moon mineral reactions -Drug/Booster production Research -Researching and selling BPCs -Researching and selling Datacores -Selling invented BPCs -Inventing and manufacturing Tricking people -Scamming -Corp theft Griefing -Ninja Salvaging -Can flipping -Protection racketeering -Suicide Ganking -Ganking ISK farmers General PvP -Faction warfare -Looting your kills -Ransoming -Bounty Hunting Other -Corpse sales -Character sales -Begging -Exploration -Making forum posts -Trading (buying and selling in the same station) -Freighting (buying one place, selling another) Out of game -Making websites/graphics/signatures -Hosting TS/vent/website servers Services -Mercenary contracts -Hisec labs -Moon Surveyor -Courier contract filling -Hauling -Providing entertainment in chat channels -Acting as CEO -Corp/Alliance creation -POS anchoring -Corp standing grinder -Spying -Jump clone creation -Carrier jumping -POS refueling -Scouting/Escort Anything not mentioned is appreciated. LOL, its hilarious how you threw it in there as a "profession" Originally by: soldieroffortune 258 "*Eve is about making yourself richer while making the other guy poorer*"
WishBlade Caldari League of Disgruntled Fast Food Employees	Posted - 2008.08.31 07:31:00 - [67] I don't see "AFK Cloaking" on the list. It's a serious profession locking down systems Aweseomenessness
Verx Interis Amarr Aurora Security Cosmic Anomalies	Posted - 2008.08.31 07:41:00 - [68] Edited by: Verx Interis on 31/08/2008 07:45:44 Edited by: Verx Interis on 31/08/2008 07:44:05 Okay I have quite a good amount of additions to make.. Added under jobs: -Making Eve minigames (Out of game) -Item reprocessing (Industry) -Investing in an IPO (Other) -Making OOG tools (Out of game) Added under services: -Consultation -Renting Hisec POS abilities (removed "Renting hisec labs") -Running an IPO -Mission salvager (Closer to a service as it is cliented) Changed "Ninja Salvaging" to "Ninja looting/salvaging" Originally by: Saju Somtaaw I'm not sure the ISK farmer one should be under "Griefing" I already explained this one. Originally by: Glengrant Edited by: Glengrant on 30/08/2008 15:44:15 -Trading (buying and selling in the same station) -Freighting (buying one place, selling another) IMHO these are the wrong distinctions. Instead: - Trader: buys stuff to sell for profit (doesn't matter where) - Hauler: Moves stuff for others for a fee (the fee is usually based on volume and distance but value can play a role) And it's effectively double listed under "other" and "services" There are freighters who don't offer a service or clients, just have a few characters watch the market, and buy some stuff, move it, and sell it in a new place. For those who charge a fee, they are now under Courier, which encompasses those who accept courier contracts as well. Originally by: WishBlade I don't see "AFK Cloaking" on the list. It's a serious profession locking down systems Are people actually cliented out to do it and, thus, the recipient of money for this activity? Originally by: Rawr Cristina (dreadnoughts are also possibly the most boring ship you could fly. It's like mining, without the part where you make money)
Lusulpher Raddick Explorations BlackWater.	Posted - 2008.10.03 08:59:00 - [69] Originally by: Verx Interis Edited by: Verx Interis on 31/08/2008 07:54:47 Okay I have quite a good amount of additions to make.. Added under jobs: Originally by: Glengrant Edited by: Glengrant on 30/08/2008 15:44:15 -Trading (buying and selling in the same station) -Freighting (buying one place, selling another) IMHO these are the wrong distinctions. Instead: - Trader: buys stuff to sell for profit (doesn't matter where) - Hauler: Moves stuff for others for a fee (the fee is usually based on volume and distance but value can play a role) And it's effectively double listed under "other" and "services" There are freighters who don't offer a service or clients, just have a few characters watch the market, and buy some stuff, move it, and sell it in a new place. Doesn't matter where you "trade" to. Buying to sell elsewhere at (often ludicrous)profit is called Profiteering. Now if you excuse me I have to get back to my carpetbaggery... Trader might be for the people who simple sell their items unreprocessed to any order on the market that pleases them. Much too tame a genre for my activities. Live and Let Die...All of it...null

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