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Miss Uylear
Caldari Uylears Dream
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Posted - 2008.09.03 22:10:00 -
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I need a slave. How do I go about purchasing one? The rules and regulations I need also, wher can I finf them? Are there tax benefits to having a slave compared to standard corporate employment in Caldari Space? I will take reasonable care of such a thing, and will make them very busy. Perhaps if someone has a a slave that is apt in the fields of Spacial Observation that is no longer needed?
I await responses to this advertisement.
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Sky Grunthor
Minmatar The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
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Posted - 2008.09.03 22:40:00 -
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I find it difficult to reconcile your apparent belief that slavery is ok, with your bleeding heart attitudes displayed in the "War is primitive" communiques.
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Myxx
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.09.03 22:44:00 -
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Originally by: Sky Grunthor I find it difficult to reconcile your apparent belief that slavery is ok, with your bleeding heart attitudes displayed in the "War is primitive" communiques.
Her ideals and mine have absolutely nothing to do with each other. I have absolutely no idea why anyone would need (or want) a slave/servant/whatever. I absolutely detest such an act. ----
Originally by: Tishlin Veredici CONCORD is like the UN. Their entire job is to do nothing until its too late.
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Serizawa Kaho
Minmatar I.M.M Elitist Cowards
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Posted - 2008.09.03 22:50:00 -
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Originally by: Myxx
Originally by: Sky Grunthor I find it difficult to reconcile your apparent belief that slavery is ok, with your bleeding heart attitudes displayed in the "War is primitive" communiques.
Her ideals and mine have absolutely nothing to do with each other. I have absolutely no idea why anyone would need (or want) a slave/servant/whatever. I absolutely detest such an act.
i have no idea why a caldari would need one at that, the Amarr are mostly sick monsters were the caldari were civilized until the recent uprising of tibus heth.
*lets out a long sigh as she takes another sip of her drink*
Looks like another caldari who has no clue to what or even how the elders got the cure for the vitoc serum and why there has been allot of sightings of mimintar industrial transports in caldari space
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Miss Uylear
Caldari Uylears Dream
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Posted - 2008.09.03 22:50:00 -
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Ah, well. Ooh, I am most flustered here. It was my husbands decision, Sky. He said that I should perhaps look to this avenue of responsibilty in order for my world view to shift back into reality and focus. He compromised, like all fantastic pragmatists do. Said something about how my work is more important to him than my opinions on human life at the moment. He also said I owe you an informal apology, yet I have not been in the mood lately. It will come, I promise.
I will admit, should a willing slave be made available to me, then I will perhaps just stare at him or her for awhile, wondering what it is I am meant to do.
(I have to say sorry, Uylear keeps tabs on what I say to folk these days, after all that bickering. If I slip up again, he makes life uncomfortable for me)
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Serizawa Kaho
Minmatar I.M.M Elitist Cowards
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Posted - 2008.09.03 22:54:00 -
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Edited by: Serizawa Kaho on 03/09/2008 22:54:51
Originally by: Miss Uylear Ah, (I have to say sorry, Uylear keeps tabs on what I say to folk these days, after all that bickering. If I slip up again, he makes life uncomfortable for me)
If that is the case then my dear lady is in need of some help, if he makes you uncomfortable then he is not the right man for you and thus you should leave him or talk to him about it and tell him how you fell.
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Miss Uylear
Caldari Uylears Dream
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Posted - 2008.09.03 23:00:00 -
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Oh no, I love him. When all the stars are extinguished I will still love him. So much has he done for me of late.
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Sky Grunthor
Minmatar The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
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Posted - 2008.09.03 23:45:00 -
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Originally by: Myxx
Originally by: Sky Grunthor I find it difficult to reconcile your apparent belief that slavery is ok, with your bleeding heart attitudes displayed in the "War is primitive" communiques.
Her ideals and mine have absolutely nothing to do with each other. I have absolutely no idea why anyone would need (or want) a slave/servant/whatever. I absolutely detest such an act.
I apologize if it came across that I was confusing her with you Myxx. I was not at all making that mistake.
And to Mrs Uylear, please I desire no apology, nor is one required by myself for your statements or beliefs. Firmly held beliefs and the words that express them are everyones right and as such only you can determine if you require an apology for yourself. Your husband can not make that determination for you, nor in my opinion should he. But that is an affair between yourself and your husband.
The only apology that I ever require of anyone is as a result of their actions. Sometimes that apology requires their own death for my satisfaction and sometimes that apology requires only the words out of their mouths. You have mad no actions against me or mine.
However let me warn you against the taking of slaves. That is an action that would require an apology.... of some kind....
Slavery is an action against humanity as well as against the individual. And that is an rather large group of people to owe an apology to.
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Avel Kereka
Amarr The Aegis Militia Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2008.09.04 00:24:00 -
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Don't listen to these selfish beasts, slavery is an act of mercy if you are a kind master. You clothe, feed and give someone's life purpose where otherwise they'd succumb to a life of crime or worse.
Look into your heart and act accordingly.
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Serizawa Kaho
Minmatar I.M.M Elitist Cowards
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Posted - 2008.09.04 00:29:00 -
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Originally by: Avel Kereka Don't listen to these selfish beasts, slavery is an act of mercy if you are a kind master. You clothe, feed and give someone's life purpose where otherwise they'd succumb to a life of crime or worse.
Look into your heart and act accordingly.
a act of kindness your race tryed to dominate my race,your race even tryed to exterminate a tribe how in gods name is that kindness..i pitty your behavior and may those mimintar shells kill you slowly
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Kai Zion
The Zion Accounts
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Posted - 2008.09.04 00:33:00 -
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Where to buy slaves?
They're about 750 ISK a pop in Delve, with more for sale than you could possibly buy. Apparently it's the same in the Amarr regions, but you might want to get someone else to confirm that. I tend to avoid the dreary shithole known as the Amarr Empire.
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Devilish Ledoux
Caldari Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.09.04 01:47:00 -
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Originally by: Kai Zion I tend to avoid the dreary shithole known as the Amarr Empire.
It's always a good place to do a bit of hunting. That's the great thing about hunting the people who do business with the Amarr: The worse you treat them, the better you feel.
Of course, I don't engage in piracy anymore, although interpretation of that statement depends heavily on your definition of 'piracy' and 'anymore'. _
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Veron Daerth
Amarr Blood Meridian
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Posted - 2008.09.04 02:06:00 -
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<Veron Daerth stares at the comms replay, somewhat flabbergasted>
Pilot Uylear.... you want a slave? You have no idea the responsibilities and care that that slave will require, and yet you want one? Why dont you get a pet, a young one. That will give you an idea, then expand the time you need to devote to that pets care a hundred..possibly thousand... fold.
A slave is not a pet either, keep that in mind. They have a mind of their own, and they will use it, like it or not. You must feed them, clothe them, provide some sort of comfort, house them, and generally care for them. If they harm themselves, you are responsible. If they break or destroy something, even if its an accident, you are responsible. If they die, you are responsible.
There is much to holding the life of another in your hands. Many do not have the stomach or time or effort to devote to it. Be sure you do... BEFORE you go and get one.
That said, you can purchase some off the market in Amarr space, and they actually pop up everywhere else at times. However, what you can get off the open market, especially in other nations, is usually not what you want to buy.
Slaves freshly captured are usually unruly, disrespectful, deceitful, arrogant, spiteful, violent, and will turn on you if given the chance. You will also see a gamut of ills with them, including but not limited to, disease, physical abuse at the hands of their captors, mental and emotional abuse from the same, malnutrition, dehydration, sickness, physical ailments such as broken bones, contusions, cuts, open wounds, etc.
Be wary of who you buy from as well. I personally do not buy slaves off the open market (they also cause problems with established slave colonies, villages, towns, and such.) and NEVER from a disreputable trader. The slaves of my estates are multi-generational. They have served my House for many many many generations. This alleviates many issues of sabotage, destruction of property, and rebellion from them. You will find many such across the Empire, and conversely, you will find few who are willing to part with them.
Be aware of the problems of what you suggest. I urge you not to rush headlong into this.
May God show you the same Mercy in Death that you showed others in Life.
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Inara Subaka
Caldari the united
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Posted - 2008.09.04 06:09:00 -
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*Inara is chuckling slightly as she opens her channel*
Sadly, I must agree with Pilot Daerth on many points given. Open market slaves are usually... unruly to say the least. Your best option is to try Empire space (where slave trade is legal) and speak with some of the more prominent holders. I would offer to sell one of my slaves, but as my business ventures and estates are expanding I can't afford to increase the burden on the others. Also, most of my slaves come in family units with a clause in the contract to prevent their separation, and I don't believe you have the capacity right the moment to handle a full family unit.
I would like to offer a word of advice, the best handle you can have is a velvet covered hammer. Be gentle and reward good work ethic, but be firm, harsh and fair with punishment.
As for the logistics of owning a slave... if you are only looking for one slave, especially one with specialization in Spacial Observation, you are probably better off hiring someone from an Academy within the State. You only have to worry about making sure they get their paycheck, you don't have to worry about rooming, food, shelter, security, etc...
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Shortfused
Caldari Lost Connection
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Posted - 2008.09.04 08:30:00 -
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Heee Missy,
Ya wants a slave? A perky one or a bit unruly one? Cheerfull or a depressed type? You want one who will test your Mastership or some docille thing?
You just specify what kind of slave yer lookin fer and I will get ya what ya need.
Life is a cycle, and I love to recycle. |

Karanth
Gallente Eve's Brothers of Destiny FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.09.04 09:15:00 -
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Most people that obtain their pod certification can't even handle their own lives... And yet you want a slave? Ships crews are one thing ,as they are compensated and know very well what awaits them if things go badly. They can also leave for a better captain.
A slave... Bah.
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Shortfused
Caldari Lost Connection
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Posted - 2008.09.04 09:53:00 -
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Well where a normal crewmember has to pay his own dues, have the constant risk if going broke and whatever other misshap a slave doesn't have those worries.
because as soon as things go bad he has the luxury of being sold to someone else who has those pretty ISKies and continue living in a life of pretty much comfort due to having a lot less worries.
So that whole talk about slaves having it bad is kinda overdone. They miss a damn lot of worries which we none slaves have.
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Kade Jeekin
Kinda'Shujaa
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Posted - 2008.09.04 10:03:00 -
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There is no such thing as a willing slave. The act of making a choice to give up freedom actually liberates you from slavery and it becomes an agreement.
You are probably looking for a servant. --------------------------------------- Outface the depths of evil with clarity --------------------------------------- |

Karanth
Gallente Eve's Brothers of Destiny FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.09.04 10:54:00 -
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My point about how idiot savants that can wield ships capable of destroying planets and yet can't handle social interactions shouldn't be responsible for the life of another is still valid.
Seriously, if I was CONCORD, I'd make everyone check their weapons at the gates into high security space. How is it one of us hasn't gotten bored and started firing Mega Beams or Cruise Missiles or 1400mm Artillery shells at a planet yet?
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Inara Subaka
Caldari the united
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Posted - 2008.09.04 16:29:00 -
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Originally by: Karanth My point about how idiot savants that can wield ships capable of destroying planets and yet can't handle social interactions shouldn't be responsible for the life of another is still valid.
*Inara appears surprised*
It appears we agree on that point at least. If someone is incapable of such minor things such as social interaction and financial stability, they have no place owning slaves.
However, that said... *reaches for a control off screen, and a Sebestior woman enters with a food tray, setting it near Inara she asks in a hushed tone, "Anything else Mistress Subaka?" She is dismissed with a nod as she quickly leaves through the door she just entered*
Originally by: Karanth Seriously, if I was CONCORD, I'd make everyone check their weapons at the gates into high security space.
Yes, and make us all subject to the tyranny of the 4 nations and their CONCORD overlord... *shakes head* sometimes I wonder what the world is coming to. You can't prevent the unfortunate, you can deter it with harsher punishments, and you can take measures to lower your risk. If they tell you that you can't have guns in hisec, then the law abiding citizens will be left unarmed while the pirates (both pod pilots and non-pod pilots) will be the only ones with guns, and the law abiding citizens will be at ou... er, their mercy.
Originally by: Karanth How is it one of us hasn't gotten bored and started firing Mega Beams or Cruise Missiles or 1400mm Artillery shells at a planet yet?
I know some people haven't done this due to targeting restrictions on their ships. Personally, I have no desire to blow something up that won't bring me some type of profit... or enjoyment. There is no profit in destroying a large consumer base without being able to reap any rewards from it, and there is little enjoyment in blowing something up when you can't watch the fireworks first hand.
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Garreck
Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.04 18:25:00 -
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I am a willing slave. You would need to speak with my master, Aralis, or my handler Clavius XIV about availability and price.
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A Soporific
Caldari Venom Pointe Industries
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Posted - 2008.09.04 18:58:00 -
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Humpf.
Inefficiency at its worst. Why are you so bound and determined to restrict the contributions of others to the glory of State? Slaves are never motivated which is makes the whole notion fatally flawed to begin with, but more importantly every person sucked out of the work force to be a personal servant is one person who never reaches their full potential. Such excesses would have doomed us all if our ancestors had been foolhardy enough to fall for such foreign notion, don't make the mistake of kicking the very source of our strength out from underneath us just because it does not appear convenient over the short term.
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Harper Hendee
Gallente Guiding Star Phoenix Rising Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.05 23:47:00 -
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I don't really approve of slavery, but if you really want to buy one check out Aphi in Kador region:
Civic Court
Instead of slavery, why not wake up a few more jump clones? I know it can be a little confusing to have more than one copy of yourself running around, but think of all the extra things you'll be able to do! I keep a jump clone I call DANGER CLONE for all those dirty and dangerous jobs I don't want to do. You can't be too cruel to your jump clone, though. You'll have all those feelings of anger and resentment at yourself when you wake up in your own body. My DANGER CLONE even tried to kill me recently. Not an easy task to do...
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Nakatre Read
Caldari Jamieson-Read Industrial Group
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Posted - 2008.09.06 11:51:00 -
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Originally by: Harper Hendee I don't really approve of slavery, but if you really want to buy one check out Aphi in Kador region:
Civic Court
Instead of slavery, why not wake up a few more jump clones? I know it can be a little confusing to have more than one copy of yourself running around, but think of all the extra things you'll be able to do! I keep a jump clone I call DANGER CLONE for all those dirty and dangerous jobs I don't want to do. You can't be too cruel to your jump clone, though. You'll have all those feelings of anger and resentment at yourself when you wake up in your own body. My DANGER CLONE even tried to kill me recently. Not an easy task to do...
You need to stop hanging out in bars so much. -----
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Scagga Laebetrovo
Evil Bastards
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Posted - 2008.09.06 12:12:00 -
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Originally by: Kade Jeekin There is no such thing as a willing slave. The act of making a choice to give up freedom actually liberates you from slavery and it becomes an agreement.
You are probably looking for a servant.
*chuckles* You know far more than a good freedom fighter should about slavery, don't know? "I had a read of the General discussion section. Part of my empathy to my fellow man died." |

Miss Uylear
Caldari The Gentlemen of Low Moral Fibre
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Posted - 2008.09.08 17:42:00 -
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* You see an empty chair, you know the chair belongs to Miss Uylear as Mr Uylear is stood behind it. Only his torso is seen. Miss rises from the bottom of the screen, as if she was adjusting her shoes or something. Mr Uylear is heard.*
"Now, after that war crap, you must deal with this too, my love. Then you can go and play with your new friends. say Hi to No Beard for me will you?"
*Mr Uylear leaves the room, the door silently sliding shut, before it finally closes, he shouts to Miss*
"I'll be in Inoue for awhile darling, we'll be light years apart. do be good."
*Miss speaks*
I am so sorry, I got him wrong, again. He was speaking metaphorically. Yet we had heated words about the subject and I slammed the door - yes, we still have good old hinges on some doors here! I came here and asked for a slave. It was not what he meant. Had I truly wanted one anyway, I would of been most discreet. So yeah, he meant that I should get a slave to put up with my ineptitude, as opposed to himself. Charming man, no?
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Shortfused
Caldari Lost Connection
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Posted - 2008.09.08 17:46:00 -
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Well, if ya change yer mind Miss, then just gimme a call, I am sure I can find a "willing" slave fer ya.
Life is a cycle, and I love to recycle. |

Megan Maynard
Minmatar 17th Minmatar Tactical Wing
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Posted - 2008.09.08 17:48:00 -
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Yeah, slave here, responding to your advertisment?
My last job didn't pay so well, I only got 4 or 5 food wafers a week. If you can improve on that you have a deal!
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Shortfused
Caldari Lost Connection
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Posted - 2008.09.08 23:33:00 -
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Now that ain't the way to treat a commodity, atleast make sure all basics are well covered.
Life is a cycle, and I love to recycle. |

Inara Subaka
Caldari the united
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Posted - 2008.09.09 18:22:00 -
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Originally by: Megan Maynard Yeah, slave here, responding to your advertisment?
My last job didn't pay so well, I only got 4 or 5 food wafers a week. If you can improve on that you have a deal!
I must assume that as a Pilot you are only attempting to get a rise out of people. However, I have stated a few times, I am looking for a Pilot to enslave. The options that come with a slave capable of "egging" are intriguing to me.
So, if you do decide to that living on your own is too much for you to handle, or you get sold into debt for some reason, please contact me and I will see what I can do about acquiring you. I'll offer the same lifestyle as my other slaves, your choice of housing amongst that which I own planetside, 3 meals per day (available as the chef decides), security from some of the less honorable associates of mine, and schooling. Which, I guess in your case will actually cost me a bit more considering that I'll have to buy the programs for you to download... we'll have to discuss what you know, and what you will need to learn to be of use to me, but I believe it is doable.
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