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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2012.03.27 23:07:00 -
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Uppsy Daisy wrote:Executive Summary: His real mistake was drinking before getting up there. Between the intoxication of alcohol and audience, he become his personae (apparently). BTW this is part of the reason why I don't roleplay. Hard enough to keep on track just being myself. Add in rotating hats and I'm well & truly screwed.
But I've got to give him credit, it takes a person of character to not only own your mistake but to fall upon your sword as needed. He's a man after my own ethics in this regard.
Uppsy Daisy wrote:Can't say I ever liked him Don't know him, of him, or about him.
Till now.
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2012.03.27 23:11:00 -
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Uppsy Daisy wrote:Please can we have some more of Apricot? There ya go. Something from 4 months ago.
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DelBoy Trades
Trotter Independent Traders.
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Posted - 2012.03.27 23:32:00 -
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/Goonsmugthread Damn nature, you scary! |
DIsposible Hero
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.28 04:10:00 -
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I just wanted to say that Apricot is an adorable name for a cat.
That is all. |
Gorki Andropov
Kerensky Initiatives
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Posted - 2012.03.28 07:10:00 -
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Angsty Teenager wrote:Gorki Andropov wrote:Shar Tegral wrote:
In the couple of hours since I posted previously on this thread I walked to my Planet Fitness (2 miles - uphill). I then proceeded to lift and push weights around with a total cumulative amount of 6 tons. (Monday is grunt day!). I then walked home (2 miles - uphill) and proceeded to have 2nd breakfast.
How the hell can you walk uphill somewhere, and then walk uphill to go back home? Take your pack of lies elsewhere. Let's think about this creatively instead of being a flat-footed numb-skull and illiterate as well. He said walk 2 miles uphill to Planet whatever it was. He didn't say he walked a total of 2 miles uphill to his fitness center He could have walked 2 miles uphill and 2 miles downhill. He also pretty much says this is what he means in a subsequent post. Try reading the whole thread next time before you post.
Begone, child
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Chevalleis
The Legendary Conquest
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Posted - 2012.03.28 07:23:00 -
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No. |
Casius Omega
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.28 12:44:00 -
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Lyris Nairn wrote:Brock Nelson wrote:Already happening, I know a goon who brought 75b of Megacyte
Also, is this burn jita gonna happen or not? Definitely. High orders from the King of Space to mark his coronation. When it will be depends on how much time he allows the logistics team to prepare.
he should of bought zydrine stupid goon.
only 16% of mega comes from drones where as 40% of zydrine comes from drones. |
corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
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Posted - 2012.03.28 12:47:00 -
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Casius Omega wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:Brock Nelson wrote:Already happening, I know a goon who brought 75b of Megacyte
Also, is this burn jita gonna happen or not? Definitely. High orders from the King of Space to mark his coronation. When it will be depends on how much time he allows the logistics team to prepare. he should of bought zydrine stupid goon. only 16% of mega comes from drones where as 40% of zydrine comes from drones.
You take everything that brock posts literally, don't you.
Poor foolish child. |
Esan Vartesa
Samarkand Financial
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Posted - 2012.03.28 13:40:00 -
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Shar Tegral wrote:Fixed it for you. PS: Replace Arachnid Warrior with Forum warrior... mentally of course.
That is totally how I think R&D agents spend their days.... except Apricot is holding the rifle. |
Azran Zala
Sicarius. When Hippos Attack
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Posted - 2012.03.29 15:22:00 -
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Uppsy Daisy wrote:Executive Summary:
Mittens stepped out of line whilst drunkenly presenting at the CSM presentation at fanfest, calling out the name of a player and encouraging players to drive him to suicide (not in game suicide, RL).
There was a strong reaction in the media, condemning him.
Mittens tweeted that he would be
- Apologising - see threadnaught in general discussion - Giving all his ISK to the player - also done - Resigning from the CSM
Can't say I ever liked him
Alliance panel, not CMS presentation. What he did, he did as a representative of his alliance, not as a CSM member.
I dont care much for the subject, but its the poor representation of the facts in every **** post that annoys me.
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Chevalleis
The Legendary Conquest
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Posted - 2012.03.29 15:30:00 -
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I gave the nuclear launch codes to Al-Qaida, just in case they wanted to use them. |
Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2012.03.29 19:11:00 -
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Azran Zala wrote:That specific wording does not appear to encourage anyone, but simply states the info, in a very offhand remark, which is an obvious joke to anyone with half a brain or a concience. As I've said, I've no onus towards goons or Mittani. However if someone chooses to walk paths of power and responsibility do not be surprised at the expectation of mature handling there of. There is fun and then there is what is appropriate. Of course any with half a brain can see it was a joke. Not only was it obvious it was a joke, it was obviously a very poorly considered joke.
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Azran Zala
Sicarius. When Hippos Attack
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Posted - 2012.03.29 19:25:00 -
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Shar Tegral wrote: Of course any with half a brain can see it was a joke. Not only was it obvious it was a joke, it was obviously a very poorly considered joke.
The things I sometimes say in jest while drunk would either get me arrested, or waking up next to another man in the morning. So I can relate.
Anyway, where my defence of Mittani comes from isn't because I have any love for him or goons (although I respect him as a strategist), but because I have issue with the idea of being banned or publicly crucified in the event that some douch sends me a troll mail because I blew up his 22 mining bots, asking for sympathy cause his wife left him (cause he plays eve too much) and his feeling suicidal.... and my reply to him is to go jump off a bridge (figuratively or litrally) & joke about his pathetic ploy with my peers suggesting he be a target of further ganks for his indiscretion. |
Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2012.03.30 11:02:00 -
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Azran Zala wrote:Anyway, where my defence of Mittani comes from isn't because I have any love for him or goons (although I respect him as a strategist), but because I have issue with the idea of being banned or publicly crucified in the event that some douch sends me a troll mail because I blew up his 22 mining bots, asking for sympathy cause his wife left him (cause he plays eve too much) and his feeling suicidal.... and my reply to him is to go jump off a bridge (figuratively or litrally) & joke about his pathetic ploy with my peers suggesting he be a target of further ganks for his indiscretion. This IS going to sound condescending, for that I am truly apologetic.
Didn't your mother or father ever tell you: You should never let someone else dictate your behavior. The ultimate truth is that it matters not what the other person did, you are still culpable for your own actions. And while the ship-box lawyers will try to bring in this shade of gray or that shade of gray about my statement the validity of my statement stands the test of time.
I respect the Mittani because he owned his actions. He apologized, attempted restitution, and accepted punishment. Now all of this, from step one could be just another Goon stunt but until that comes to light I respect what has occurred and I leave it at that.
However I also feel that no matter the provocation one is accountable for their own actions. The fact that Mittani demonstrated the "peter principle" is something that can never be erased. And, added to which, the fact that he's not being humble and staying under the radar only shows me that his Ego far outweighs any maturity he claims to have in real life.
So I guess the difference here is that you are not the center of a cult of personality. You have not be entrusted with someone else's resources (CCP's) and you did not abuse a very solemn trust in the process.
The GM's love to talk about the "the magic circle". It is a very important and valid boundary. We are obligated, knowing or unknowingly, to protect ourselves from crossing that boundary. CSM representatives even more so. Because once you apply to be a CSM representative you have assumed responsibility for standing equally inside & outside the magic circle. (Which is why I'll never apply - I don't want you jerks knowing my hometown and real name.)
Mittani accepted the responsibility of his position. There is nothing more heinous to me (as a freemason) as someone violating their oath and obligation. That he tried to make up for it reduces my level of disgust to palatable is one thing. To offer a defense for a clear arbitration of his responsibilities is .... specious at best.
That goons do not show shame at his actions - Nay show outrage or diminish the outrage of others over it, only demonstrates themselves in all their twisted juvenile glory.
But, that's what a sandbox is all about. Inside the magic circle, not outside it. |
Azran Zala
Sicarius. When Hippos Attack
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Posted - 2012.03.30 19:19:00 -
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After reading your argument Shar Tegral, when stressing the point that he placed himself in a possition that casts a huge reflection of his actions on CCP, then understandibly anything he did that brings bad press to CCP should earn him a rebuke
But since watching a fellow college beat the crap out of & throw out a hobo with mental issues that walked into our office just this morning helping himself to the kitchen. I firmly believe there are people with more problems than some guy with too many mining alts, and there are far worse measures of indifference or malice to fellow humans that what Mittani did.
Mittani's 'victim' however I'd trully never feel remorse or pitty for in a game or in RL either, since when living on a continent where 10,000 children under the age of 7 die of hunger each day, while sitting on the couch drinking my morning coffee, watching sky news reports of first world countries dropping bombs on villidges in some middle eastern country that no one really cares about, switching the channel to the local news about another report of some 3yr old girl being raped. Or a 14yr old who died during an 'exercism' performed by her own family by extracting her intestines through her vigina. Or reading statistics that more than 5mil people in my very own country dont have homes to sleep in.
I cant help myself but think that some person who can afford to spend $330 a month on 22 accounts for a computer game, while sitting in his comfy PC chair infront of a gaming rig(s) in a coasy house/apartment (with electricty & clean safe drinking water!); Complaining he's suicidal because his life is so bad & people in a pc game are mean to him: If in fact, was suicidal, would probly be doing the world a favour by removing himself, and making room for someone less fortunate. So I too may have thought briefly of encourging such action while my inhibitions where low, had I not also spent half my life on anti-depressants.
Cause lets face it. Its a depressing world out there. Deal with it or check out. Either way... ingame or in RL... "Can I haz your stuff". |
Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2012.03.30 20:10:00 -
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Azran Zala wrote:living on a continent where 10,000 children under the age of 7 die of hunger each day, while sitting on the couch drinking my morning coffee, watching sky news reports of first world countries dropping bombs on villidges in some middle eastern country that no one really cares about, switching the channel to the local news about another report of some 3yr old girl being raped. Or a 14yr old who died during an 'exercism' performed by her own family by extracting her intestines through her vigina. Or reading statistics that more than 5mil people in my very own country dont have homes to sleep in. Blah, blah, blah.
This is the reason for the "magic circle" mate. Regardless of what your politics or position is on real life matter, we all agree to leave that crap at the door. I spend my time directly volunteering to as many services as I possibly can without damaging my own life: I work for Habitat for Humanity, Dover Children's Home, Cook @ Dover Friendly Kitchen, etc., etc.. The reason I do so is because I can.
I'm retired with a fairly lucrative annuity package but just because life is good does not mean I don't have my own demons. Instead of pointing them out here, for people to poo-poo or ridicule, lets just say: I do care about the victim in this case but it wasn't "The Wizz". It was CCP and it was us. For that I've little sympathy for Mittani.
As to The Wizz himself, troll or not, he did not deserve to be singled out like he was. No one does and I can speak to that because several times I've been through the same damn wringer. Never got, nor wanted, an apology either. But it was still wrong and tossing blame back at the victim is ... like exorcizing a child over some misbegotten practices.
Not as wrong, no. Still wrong though.
"He who is faithful in what is least is faithful also in much; and he who is unjust in what is least is unjust also in much" |
Azran Zala
Sicarius. When Hippos Attack
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Posted - 2012.03.30 20:25:00 -
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Shar Tegral wrote: This is the reason for the "magic circle" mate. Regardless of what your politics or position is on real life matter, we all agree to leave that crap at the door.
Azran Zala wrote: After reading your argument Shar Tegral, when stressing the point that he placed himself in a possition that casts a huge reflection of his actions on CCP, then understandibly anything he did that brings bad press to CCP should earn him a rebuke
+1
Shar Tegral wrote: As to The Wizz himself, troll or not, he did not deserve to be singled out like he was.
In a game where breaking someone elses will to fight or even carry on is actually a valid goal and achivement, I'd beg to differ.
Shar Tegral wrote: I do care about the victim in this case but it wasn't "The Wizz". It was CCP and it was us. For that I've little sympathy for Mittani.
Now isn't that the truth. |
Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2012.03.30 22:56:00 -
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Azran Zala wrote:In a game .... ....
Azran Zala wrote:But in a game ... ... Your exceptions to my argument(s) prove my argument(s).
When in the game, it is all part of the game. Once outside, adults should know better.
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Azran Zala
Sicarius. When Hippos Attack
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Posted - 2012.03.30 23:58:00 -
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Shar Tegral wrote:Azran Zala wrote:In a game .... .... Azran Zala wrote:But in a game ... ... Your exceptions to my argument(s) prove my argument(s). When in the game, it is all part of the game. Once outside, adults should know better.
Its not like he gave anyone his telephone number. He gave them one of his 22 character's names. At a game alliance panel discussing events... & a character ...in a game |
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