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Sana Yamada
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Posted - 2008.09.05 07:42:00 -
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Edited by: Sana Yamada on 05/09/2008 07:50:42
Ok this is just what it says a petition to just see how many people think the Covetor Mining Barge should have the skills required lowered or altered to this if you agree please say yes if not please just move on by trying to keep accurate number of +votes for it.
Covetor Skill Should be Changed as such:
Mining Barge 4
Astrogeology 4 + one for ship requirement -1 level 5 seconadrary skill.
Science 4
Industry 5
Secondary Skills become redundant as they are already met after the change.
Hope this makes sense, and see how many agree with me.
First vote for it Sana
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Koikarmin
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.09.05 07:58:00 -
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I agree and sign the petition, I think it would be a good idea to change the skills that are neded for that barge.
Koikarmin
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Marexlovox
Gallente
Children Of The Rusty Shiv
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Posted - 2008.09.05 08:04:00 -
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I agree will this petition. Secondary skill for Astrogeology V for mining barge is a little much, for Exumers yes it would make sense. I think Astrogeology IV is enough for this lvl of Ore Barge.
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Jaketh Ivanes
Amarr
Imperial Servants
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Posted - 2008.09.05 08:10:00 -
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Edited by: Jaketh Ivanes on 05/09/2008 08:10:15
To have anything accurate, you need both for and against votes. Otherwise you just have a one sided image that is highly likely to be inaccurate.
This is a discussion board, so voting is actually against the forum rules. Any post must be constructive.
But for the record, I don't care about changing the requirements 
EDIT: Forgot a word
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Hesod Adee
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.09.05 08:32:00 -
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I say no for two reasons:
1 -  Quote:
if not please just move on
If you wanted to just count the votes in favor, you have the assembly hall.
2 - You haven't given any reason as to why the reqs should be lowered.
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Shadow Richard
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Posted - 2008.09.05 09:05:00 -
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Maybe lower the skill points for it, i mean 16 days well for me to train that, is a little much.
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Gamesguy
Amarr
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.09.05 09:23:00 -
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Yes, lets have more isk farmers in covetors stripping all the veld in highsec, great idea.
CCP can you lower the isk cost of titans to something I can afford? Please?
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Shadow Richard
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Posted - 2008.09.05 09:25:00 -
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Edited by: Shadow Richard on 05/09/2008 09:25:42
Why stress about miners, roids spawn back. I like my Retriever. Covertor will have to wait.
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Fullmetal Jackass
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Posted - 2008.09.05 10:36:00 -
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We just had a thread on this yesterday. Macro miners are the reason. If they ban someone they want it to take a while for them to train another macro account.
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Fullmetal Jackass
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Posted - 2008.09.05 10:38:00 -
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We just covered this yesterday. Macro miners are the reason the skill reqs are lvl 5.
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Sana Yamada
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Posted - 2008.09.05 10:59:00 -
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Always blame the Macro Miners , well I guess this really is a good example of the bad people makeing the honest ones suffer. The point is this is going on regardless and untill they find a way to stop it others have to suffer. In relative time seriously it would still even with the Changes I recomended a good amount of time before getting to a Covetor from scratch. Honestly it is rediculous that you have to have Astrogeology 3 to get the ship and level 5 to use it. Not to mention the poor cargo capicity and how fast it mines may be a blessing really. Not to mention most Macro Miners prefer the racial modified Mining cruisers, as not to lose alot of money. the Covetor is not the prefered ship of the Macro miner and I found it odd you did not even mention this. Point is the ships should be spread out in relation to training yes, when they and not a huge gap to catch one then be on the top the next moment. We could argue the point all day. Both of us would be right and wrong in respects.
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Fullmetal Jackass
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Posted - 2008.09.05 11:03:00 -
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This particular whine is as old as the Hulk. I really doubt they will ever change it.
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Marcus Gideon
Gallente
Excessive Force
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Posted - 2008.09.05 11:30:00 -
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"It's the Macros fault... blame the Macros..."
1) Properly fitted Cruisers and BS can mine about as well as a Barge, and with less effort.
2) Typically, the folks who train for a Barge are intent on a Exhumer later on anyways.
3) Making the game a pain in the ass for the majority, to solve a problem with a minority, is bad business (which CCP is notorious for bad business anyways).
So the easiest solution... if Macros are truly the root of all evils... is to get rid of mining entirely. I mean, sure it'll screw over every honest player in the game. BUT it will show those Macros!!1!
Or... make Covetor easier to get into, so players will use it for longer than a day or two before they climb into their Hulk. And deal with the Macros in other ways.
"In some countries, they bind womens feet to make them handicapped so they stay home. We'll solve this by making shoes cost $500,000,000 world wide!!!"
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Tarron Sarek
Gallente
Cadien Cybernetics
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Posted - 2008.09.05 11:50:00 -
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Originally by: Marcus Gideon
"It's the Macros fault... blame the Macros..."
1) Properly fitted Cruisers and BS can mine about as well as a Barge, and with less effort.
2) Typically, the folks who train for a Barge are intent on a Exhumer later on anyways.
3) Making the game a pain in the ass for the majority, to solve a problem with a minority, is bad business (which CCP is notorious for bad business anyways).
So the easiest solution... if Macros are truly the root of all evils... is to get rid of mining entirely. I mean, sure it'll screw over every honest player in the game. BUT it will show those Macros!!1!
Or... make Covetor easier to get into, so players will use it for longer than a day or two before they climb into their Hulk. And deal with the Macros in other ways.
"In some countries, they bind womens feet to make them handicapped so they stay home. We'll solve this by making shoes cost $500,000,000 world wide!!!"
This pretty much sums it up.
Aren't today's macrominers harvesting ice instead of ore?
And regardless of what the devs do about the Covetor, they'll have their Retrievers anyway, and Hulks in the same time as they do now.
Apart from that Covetors are easier to suicide gank, and if the devs lower the maximum payout from insurance, you can inflict quite some pain to macros who use Covetors.
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Sana Yamada
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Posted - 2008.09.05 16:53:00 -
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Where are the Devs anyway do they ever get into these topics, once again a opinion from the people that run everything would be helpful here then we know where they stand.
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Joe Starbreaker
Starbreaker Frigateers
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Posted - 2008.09.05 16:58:00 -
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It doesn't make sense that it takes 2 months from Retriever to Covetor, then 2 days from Covetor to Hulk. So, I agree with the OP. However, I vote against him just because he typed in all caps, and I hate that.
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Fullmetal Jackass
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Posted - 2008.09.05 19:43:00 -
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Originally by: Marcus Gideon
So the easiest solution...
is to just get over it.
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Athanasios Anastasiou
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.09.05 23:58:00 -
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Edited by: Athanasios Anastasiou on 05/09/2008 23:58:19
Bad idea. There is a bit of skill investment that is required to prevent everybody from being good at everything.
The covetor is almost as good as the hulk and is even superior in some cases. If you can be among the best miner in just a few days training, then that will degrade the mining profession.
It's kinda like spending only 10 days training to be an uber megathron pilot. The fact that there is such a large investment of time for a particular niche is important to preserve a variety of professions in EVE.
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Nik W
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Posted - 2008.09.06 00:02:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Starbreaker
It doesn't make sense that it takes 2 months from Retriever to Covetor, then 2 days from Covetor to Hulk.
This is absolutely true. The only thing the covetor might be used for is to earn the isk to buy a hulk faster. But if you have the isk or can borrow it, it's a useless ship.
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Sana Yamada
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Posted - 2008.09.06 02:38:00 -
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bump
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Mika Meroko
Minmatar
Crayon Posting Inc
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Posted - 2008.09.06 04:49:00 -
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Edited by: Mika Meroko on 06/09/2008 04:50:13
next up would be:
Carrier skills shouldnt need BS 5 to train...
time to vote ppl!!!
(but seriously... it just happen to be designed that way... and yeah, if you cant wait 14 to 20 days to train that last bit... god I hope you have a long attention span for mining...XD... cause is gonna be more painful XD)
but yeah, it throws a wench into farmers, thats a good thing XD
PS: covetors are useful... I use it all the time when in 0.0 and not in friendly space.. hell, theres several in my boss's mothership XD
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I pod people because there's money to be made in selling tears.
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Kil'Roy
Minmatar
The Rat Patrol
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Posted - 2008.09.06 06:12:00 -
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Originally by: Sana Yamada
bump
I think this idea is DOA.
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