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sprezzatura
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Posted - 2008.09.07 11:08:00 -
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hi all. I have had a long look at the suggested setups for the bb - how does this look for my fitting?
High: 2 medium smartbomb, 2 small smartbomb (I can squeeze a third medium in just need to get one)- for drone defence
Mid: 4 racial and 2 multispec ECM for known target
---- 6 multispec ECM otherwise
low: 2 x Signal Distortion Amp II
thanks in advance
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BiggestT
Caldari
Space Oddysey
Pupule 'Ohana
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Posted - 2008.09.07 11:09:00 -
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boot the hi's, as soon as some1 sticks dornes on u, ur dead, the sb's wont do diddly squat to save you..
fit some guns, neuts, hell fits osme rr just dotn fit sb's ;)
also im not sure how ur cap will hold up with a full rack of ecm..
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Waxau
Infusion.
G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2008.09.07 11:10:00 -
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Absolutely fine imo mate. For empire space (low sec and high sec) use missiles instead. Not as effective at popping drones, but saves any unfortunate incidents :D
And alwaus use 4 racials tbh. Some ships can use multi's effectively, and whilst the blackbird can, racials tend to fit better (4 racials, 2 multi's that is).
So yes - Looks good.
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Arakidias
Murky Inc.
Power Of 3
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Posted - 2008.09.07 11:12:00 -
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AML's for drone defence instead of smartbombs.
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Derek Sigres
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Posted - 2008.09.07 11:13:00 -
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 Originally by: Waxau
Absolutely fine imo mate. For empire space (low sec and high sec) use missiles instead. Not as effective at popping drones, but saves any unfortunate incidents :D
And alwaus use 4 racials tbh. Some ships can use multi's effectively, and whilst the blackbird can, racials tend to fit better (4 racials, 2 multi's that is).
So yes - Looks good.
And you might even get lucky with four smart bombs popping off and take out missiles from time to time. Of course, the timing is everything, and lag ruins the odds of doing it on purpose, especially given the fact a skilled pilot can fire a cruise missile the distance of a sb detonation in less than a second.
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Hanneshannes
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Posted - 2008.09.07 11:18:00 -
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Maybe 4 racials, a sensor booster and a multispec.
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Florio
Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2008.09.07 11:21:00 -
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with BBs i've found range to be a better defence than offensive high slots. so i'd personally drop some smarties and a multispec and add an afterburner or mwd.
my preference would also be to forget multispecs altogether and additionally go for some alpha defence with an armor plate (if a BS strikes you you stand a better chance of surviving the first hit to warp off).
there is no perfect setup for all situations, but there are wrong setups, and your setup is not wrong.
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sprezzatura
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Posted - 2008.09.07 11:34:00 -
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thanks for all the quick and informative replies.
I have alot of (for my age) skills in missiles so Assault Missile Launcher it is for highs and I'll go for 4 racial and a sensor booster + something else.
I expect I'll be losing a few of these so I'll try out the armour plate and see how I get on with that as well.
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amGreat
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Posted - 2008.09.07 15:56:00 -
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considering the cap usage of smartbombs I would say nay. Your warp drive is your friend in a blackbird, so i think i stab or nano over armor plate.
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SoftRevolution
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Posted - 2008.09.07 16:43:00 -
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Edited by: SoftRevolution on 07/09/2008 16:44:17
Agreeing with the people advocating range tank.
A smart bomb will hit orbiting drones but not probably not quickly enough to pop them before they pop you and it reams your cap.
One thing I keep meaning to stick on mine is a remote repper or two (since your DPS is fairly pitiful anyway) for between fights.
With decent skills and your set-up you're looking at probably ~8 ish jam strength with the best named multis vs. ~11 ish from Racials. That's 20-22 cumulative from two racials vs. 14-16 from two multispecs. Depending on what kind of ships you're jamming it might work or it might not. The other issue is that they have a much shorter optimal range so at 100km you're in falloff.
To get full range out of it you might want to look at a sensor booster too to push the lock range up past 100.
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Kurt Gergard
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.09.07 16:51:00 -
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you could fit a 1600 plate and a dc in your lows
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Terianna Eri
Amarr
Scrutari
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Posted - 2008.09.07 18:53:00 -
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Originally by: SoftRevolution
Edited by: SoftRevolution on 07/09/2008 16:44:17
Agreeing with the people advocating range tank.
A smart bomb will hit orbiting drones but not probably not quickly enough to pop them before they pop you and it reams your cap.
One thing I keep meaning to stick on mine is a remote repper or two (since your DPS is fairly pitiful anyway) for between fights.
With decent skills and your set-up you're looking at probably ~8 ish jam strength with the best named multis vs. ~11 ish from Racials. That's 20-22 cumulative from two racials vs. 14-16 from two multispecs. Depending on what kind of ships you're jamming it might work or it might not. The other issue is that they have a much shorter optimal range so at 100km you're in falloff.
To get full range out of it you might want to look at a sensor booster too to push the lock range up past 100.
Why mention cumulative jam strength? Does it matter, at all, in any way whatsoever?
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SoftRevolution
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Posted - 2008.09.07 20:24:00 -
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Originally by: Terianna Eri
Originally by: SoftRevolution
Edited by: SoftRevolution on 07/09/2008 16:44:17
Agreeing with the people advocating range tank.
A smart bomb will hit orbiting drones but not probably not quickly enough to pop them before they pop you and it reams your cap.
One thing I keep meaning to stick on mine is a remote repper or two (since your DPS is fairly pitiful anyway) for between fights.
With decent skills and your set-up you're looking at probably ~8 ish jam strength with the best named multis vs. ~11 ish from Racials. That's 20-22 cumulative from two racials vs. 14-16 from two multispecs. Depending on what kind of ships you're jamming it might work or it might not. The other issue is that they have a much shorter optimal range so at 100km you're in falloff.
To get full range out of it you might want to look at a sensor booster too to push the lock range up past 100.
Why mention cumulative jam strength? Does it matter, at all, in any way whatsoever?
As a rough guide to how likely you are to jam a ship?
I mean I could express it as percentages or just say "With two multispecs you're a fair bit less likely to jam a Battleship or whatever else that has a high sensor strength whereas with two racials it's more likely" but trying to quantify it a bit might help him decide between the two.
Perhaps I'm misunderstanding the maths 
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Terianna Eri
Amarr
Scrutari
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Posted - 2008.09.07 20:49:00 -
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Originally by: SoftRevolution
Originally by: Terianna Eri
Originally by: SoftRevolution
Edited by: SoftRevolution on 07/09/2008 16:44:17
Agreeing with the people advocating range tank.
A smart bomb will hit orbiting drones but not probably not quickly enough to pop them before they pop you and it reams your cap.
One thing I keep meaning to stick on mine is a remote repper or two (since your DPS is fairly pitiful anyway) for between fights.
With decent skills and your set-up you're looking at probably ~8 ish jam strength with the best named multis vs. ~11 ish from Racials. That's 20-22 cumulative from two racials vs. 14-16 from two multispecs. Depending on what kind of ships you're jamming it might work or it might not. The other issue is that they have a much shorter optimal range so at 100km you're in falloff.
To get full range out of it you might want to look at a sensor booster too to push the lock range up past 100.
Why mention cumulative jam strength? Does it matter, at all, in any way whatsoever?
As a rough guide to how likely you are to jam a ship?
I mean I could express it as percentages or just say "With two multispecs you're a fair bit less likely to jam a Battleship or whatever else that has a high sensor strength whereas with two racials it's more likely" but trying to quantify it a bit might help him decide between the two.
Perhaps I'm misunderstanding the maths
Well, cumulative jam strength doesn't really give any meaningful info.
Let's say they have SS 15, and you have jammer strength 7 and use 2 jammers.
"cumulative" strength is 14, so it might give him the impression that he has 14/15 = 93% chance.
In reality the chance per jammer is 46%, so the chance of being not jammed is 54%, so the chance of both missing is .54*.54 = 29%, which, while good, is quite different from 93%.
Just some thoughts.
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Originally by: Arthur Frayn
How much to ruin all your holes, luv?
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SoftRevolution
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Posted - 2008.09.07 21:02:00 -
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If EVE makes me brush up on my maths is it edutainment? 
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