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Heya Joe
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Posted - 2008.09.08 10:22:00 -
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Edited by: Heya Joe on 08/09/2008 10:23:48
Are there any gun interceptors yet... that compare to the wtfpwnage of the Crow? I mean the whole "I'm going to sit out here at 20 km while you sit there and die for a half hour..."?
There weren't when I played a year ago, but I see there have been some changes made so I thought I'd ask anyway. Basically, my missile skills SUCK (as in essentially non-existant) and my gunnery skills are great... so is there a good inty for this skillset, or is the Vaga pretty much the only way to go from here?
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forum mematar
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.09.08 10:36:00 -
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Edited by: forum mematar on 08/09/2008 10:37:06
I can't imagine any interceptor being WORSE than a Crow...
How can you solo in a Crow when you can't kill anything?
Go for Taranis or Crusader.
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Dr Sheepbringer
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Posted - 2008.09.08 10:40:00 -
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Well the blasteranis is a mean bastard if the opponent doesn't have a fit to handle it. I had that "heyyy...my armor is melting quickly...heeyyy!!! HELP!!"You have to get real close with it, but with correct fit and good skills. It brings pain, and fast!
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Heya Joe
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Posted - 2008.09.08 10:54:00 -
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 Originally by: forum mematar
Edited by: forum mematar on 08/09/2008 10:37:06
I can't imagine any interceptor being WORSE than a Crow...
How can you solo in a Crow when you can't kill anything?
Go for Taranis or Crusader.
Wow, alright. Did something change in the last year+some months? Used to be the Crow was "all that and a bag of chips"... I've never been keen on the blasteranis as I ... uh ... don't really like spending tens of millions on what is essentially a suicide ship >.<
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adriaans
Amarr
Ankaa.
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Posted - 2008.09.08 10:54:00 -
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ganksader FTW
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Cpt Branko
Surge.
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Posted - 2008.09.08 10:55:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Sheepbringer
Well the blasteranis is a mean bastard if the opponent doesn't have a fit to handle it. I had that "heyyy...my armor is melting quickly...heeyyy!!! HELP!!"You have to get real close with it, but with correct fit and good skills. It brings pain, and fast!
On the other hand if the guy has MWD+web you're dead meat (and/or T2 lights), which is probably why the OP wants a crow.
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Heya Joe
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Posted - 2008.09.08 10:59:00 -
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Edited by: Heya Joe on 08/09/2008 11:00:47
Originally by: Cpt Branko
Originally by: Dr Sheepbringer
Well the blasteranis is a mean bastard if the opponent doesn't have a fit to handle it. I had that "heyyy...my armor is melting quickly...heeyyy!!! HELP!!"You have to get real close with it, but with correct fit and good skills. It brings pain, and fast!
On the other hand if the guy has MWD+web you're dead meat (and/or T2 lights), which is probably why the OP wants a crow.
Exactly.
Well, I don't want a crow... I want a gunship that I can use like a crow... >.<
Originally by: adriaans
ganksader FTW
Few flew the Crusader when I last played, really... I'm guessing it's the same story as the Blasteranis? Ownage if you can orbit fast at a few km... but if the opponent has a web, you're 1-volleyed? >.<
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Gneeznow
Minmatar
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.09.08 11:05:00 -
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scorch-sader is what you are looking for.
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Fish Brain
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.09.08 11:12:00 -
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pulse/beam sader, arty claw, rail/blaster ranis - all better than the crow.
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Heya Joe
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Posted - 2008.09.08 11:14:00 -
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Originally by: Fish Brain
pulse/beam sader, arty claw, rail/blaster ranis - all better than the crow.
Wow... how things have changed.
Thanks all. :)
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eXtas
Atomic Battle Penguins
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Posted - 2008.09.08 11:21:00 -
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overloading have changed a lot, nowdays its easy to webb a crow even with a lot slower blaster ranis...
and if you are looking for out of webb range intys rail ranis and crusader are the best ones..
crusader is a litle faster but ranis have a webb.. damage and tank is pretty even.
both of them will kill a crow before even going into armor :)
claw has problems with the bad targeting range/no webb... and artys sucks.
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Cpt Branko
Surge.
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Posted - 2008.09.08 11:26:00 -
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Originally by: eXtas
overloading have changed a lot, nowdays its easy to webb a crow even with a lot slower blaster ranis...
I think the OP was talking about attacking bigger ships. Crows were never good for anti-interceptor work.
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eXtas
Atomic Battle Penguins
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Posted - 2008.09.08 11:36:00 -
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well crow is still easyest inty to orbit a ship with.. no range/tracking/cap problems
dps isnt to grate tho but only crusader and ranis can do more.. both need a lot more skills to be cap stable and do that damage..
oh and for takling nothing can beat a stiletto :) the 30km scram range with t2 distrupter is just yber.
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Kaeten
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.09.08 11:37:00 -
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You need tactics to win a 1v1 inty fight...
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Kyle Klanen
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Posted - 2008.09.08 11:49:00 -
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Edited by: Kyle Klanen on 08/09/2008 11:52:23
Originally by: Fish Brain
pulse/beam sader, arty claw, rail/blaster ranis - all better than the crow.
Crusaders and maledictions can be tricky to deal with in a crow, blaster ranis is either a joke or I have never bumped into a competent pilot and any version of the claw is just garbage compared to a crow.
Originally by: Cpt Branko
I think the OP was talking about attacking bigger ships. Crows were never good for anti-interceptor work.
You see the thing is so many people do fly crows that the crow is great for taking down another crow because so many crow pilots neglect to fit a web, fit some explosion velocity rigs instead of polycarbs and you have a decent chance of dealing with most intys as well.
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Boobiencia
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.09.08 11:50:00 -
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i used to have blasterranis, and if i saw inty one on gate ( 0.0), i turned around and warped away to something where he can see me, he arrive next to me = web+boom+boomb dead
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Father Dibbles
Drunks And Addicts Combined
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Posted - 2008.09.08 11:52:00 -
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Originally by: Kaeten
You need tactics to win a 1v1 inty fight...
Do you need a spoon to eat soup?
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Burn Mac
Minmatar
Burning Steel Inc.
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Posted - 2008.09.08 11:55:00 -
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Originally by: Boobiencia
i used to have blasterranis, and if i saw inty one on gate ( 0.0), i turned around and warped away to something where he can see me, he arrive next to me = web+boom+boomb dead
Warp to within 50 km?
To the OP check out scorch pulsader w/ dual TEII
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Great Artista
Caldari
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.09.08 12:46:00 -
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Crusader is one of the best.
I'm currently flying the scorch setup, but trainning cap skills so I can upgrade to a beamsetup I figured out. It should put further away from the ah-so-nasty overheated web+mwd combo. But the pulse-setup still remains viable, both styles have their advantages.
One common good thing about low-damage inties is that the victim has tons of time to pay the ransom. 
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Lubomir Penev
interimo
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Posted - 2008.09.08 12:53:00 -
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Originally by: Great Artista
One common good thing about low-damage inties is that the victim has tons of time to pay the ransom.
Another perk is that you can incapacitate drones instead of popping them 
It adds up over time.
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Felix Dzerzhinsky
Caldari
Wreckless Abandon
Un-Natural Selection
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Posted - 2008.09.08 12:54:00 -
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Originally by: eXtas
oh and for takling nothing can beat a stiletto :) the 30km scram range with t2 distrupter is just yber.
Malidiction is a superior tackler. . .
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Euriti
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.09.08 13:05:00 -
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Originally by: Father Dibbles
Originally by: Kaeten
You need tactics to win a 1v1 inty fight...
Do you need a spoon to eat soup?
No, I'm quite happy with my fork good sir.
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G Mooo
The Priory
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Posted - 2008.09.08 16:21:00 -
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Blasteranis, nuf' said. It's advantage over teh sader is it can web and scram (even if it isn't quite as fast)
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Cpt Branko
Surge.
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Posted - 2008.09.08 16:22:00 -
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Originally by: G Mooo
Blasteranis, nuf' said. It's advantage over teh sader is it can web and scram (even if it isn't quite as fast)
I think the OP is looking for something he can just orbit far out of webrange (of larger stuff) and kill it slowly (which is what you'd use a crow for), rather then a anti-interceptor fighter which tends to explode when it tries to do the trick vs anything larger then a frigate.
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Terianna Eri
Amarr
Scrutari
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Posted - 2008.09.08 16:53:00 -
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Adding my support for the pulsesader here 
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Spectre3353
Gallente
The Python Cartel
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Posted - 2008.09.08 18:16:00 -
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Rail fit Taranis
Pulse/Beam fit Crusader
Artillery fit Claw
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Spaztick
Canadian Imperial Armaments
EVESpace
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Posted - 2008.09.08 18:22:00 -
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Crows suck against other interceptors, but still do well against anything else. You don't have the damage of a *spit* pulse scorch crusader, but you don't have to worry about tracking (which really the sader doesn't have to either).
But seriously, more people should have some type of spacer in their sigs to show it's not part of the post.
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Derek Sigres
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Posted - 2008.09.08 18:30:00 -
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Originally by: Spaztick
Crows suck against other interceptors, but still do well against anything else. You don't have the damage of a *spit* pulse scorch crusader, but you don't have to worry about tracking (which really the sader doesn't have to either).
I dunno, pre nano age the Crow was able to handily murder most intys out there. Post nano nerf I suspect they will once again be able to claim a spot as a viable dogfighter. As it stands now, the sheer number of intys that can simply outrun the crow's missiles make it more or less defenselss against another interceptor.
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Gimpb
Sturmgrenadier Inc
Cosmic Anomalies
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Posted - 2008.09.08 20:02:00 -
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Yeah, the sader and ranis are both mean for mid and short range but the crow is probably still the king of long range.
If you want tank and spank, the ranis is probably king overall. Because of its high structure, drones, and bonuses, it's damage and tank are both head and shoulders above other ceptors, even with rails. It pays for that in speed, of course.
It seems to operate in a zone between ceptors, destroyers, and AFs and has really friggin good bonuses.
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Breakfast Shark
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Posted - 2008.09.08 20:43:00 -
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Originally by: Heya Joe
Edited by: Heya Joe on 08/09/2008 10:23:48
Are there any gun interceptors yet... that compare to the wtfpwnage of the Crow? I mean the whole "I'm going to sit out here at 20 km while you sit there and die for a half hour..."?
There weren't when I played a year ago, but I see there have been some changes made so I thought I'd ask anyway. Basically, my missile skills SUCK (as in essentially non-existant) and my gunnery skills are great... so is there a good inty for this skillset, or is the Vaga pretty much the only way to go from here?
IIRC, the only worthwhile changes that's relevant to what you're asking is that people have since realized how awesome optimal range rigs are on a crusader. The beamsader used to be hailed as the king of dogfights, now people do the same thing with a pulse setup. Use 2xTE + 2xlocus rigs with scorch ammo, your optimal will reach out to 17km, and let you track your target at full mwd burn. You can pretty much take out all other frigs, some cruisers, and occasionally a badly setup BC.
Only problem is the cap, but the sader always had, and always will have cap problems. It just takes a little getting use to.
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