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Sgt Blade Caldari M. Corp Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2008.09.08 20:22:00 - [1] so today i nearly crashed and seeing i have only passed my driving test 10 months ago, i was pretty scared afterwards... so im at a red light and once it turns green i turn right and up the road to get home today. about 30 meters on there is a junction on my left onto a small street. I see a yellow car or sorts come up to the junction and stop as im heading towards him. i have right of way so i dont have to let him out.... i also notice a young child on a push bike and a car behind him coming down the hill on the other side of the road.the young child on his push bike slowly crosses over to my side, the wrong side of the road to travel down. now as im wondering if he will make it onto the pavement before i get to him the yellow car jumps out onto the main road from the minor road and then slams his break... blocking my whole lane. out of reaction i serve right onto the wrong side of the road to avoid the yellow car, then i serve back left to avoid the car coming down the hill all the while not hitting the kid who manages to get onto the pavement before i get to him.... now thinking back to it, if i tried to break, i would have hit the yellow car anyway side on.... the car behind me would have hit me because he only manages to stop about a meter or so from hitting the yellow car after i moved out the way... but of course thinking back if i hit the car coming down the hill... it would have been my fault or if i hit the child that would have been a really sticky situation for me so for those who have been driving longer then me... is my driving bad... and did i make the right decision? im still scared and its been like an hour after hehe Hypnotic Pelvic Thrusting Level 5
Fuglife Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2008.09.08 20:28:00 - [2] I wouldnt say your a bad driver for doing that, seems like the only option, im guessing you would of hit the drivers side of the yellow car? You didnt really have an option. Were you speeding at all?
Sgt Blade Caldari M. Corp Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2008.09.08 20:30:00 - [3] Originally by: Fuglife I wouldnt say your a bad driver for doing that, seems like the only option, im guessing you would of hit the drivers side of the yellow car? You didnt really have an option. Were you speeding at all? yes i would have hit his driver side and i wasnt going fast enough to be speeding. my little car cant go really fast up hills hehe Hypnotic Pelvic Thrusting Level 5
Bosie Veto Corp	Posted - 2008.09.08 20:52:00 - [4] I'd have drove into the yellow car. A bus decided yesterday to pull out in front of me on a roundabout, I kept going and missed him by inches as he slammed on the breaks hard. Right of way means just that. "There is a forgotten, nay almost forbidden word, which means more to me than any other. That word is ENGLAND
Aaron Zebulun Amarr I-Ascension-I Burning Horizons	Posted - 2008.09.08 20:56:00 - [5] To be perfectly honest, its sounds like you did the best thing you could in a rather stupid situation (on thier part, not yours). Major props for not just jamming on the breaks and screaming, and actually showing some form of car control which is less and less common these days, well in the UK anyways Me, id have gotten out given the kid a ******ing, then go ask the yellow car driver exactly WTF he thought he was doing, and i shouldnt kick his ass? The shakes will go away, ive had a few accidents, and near misses just likes yours where someone pulled out etc and id have hit them (i was speeding though). It probably sounds stupid, but i really do recomend crashing etc a couple of times after your test, it soon sorted me out. *dont activly go out seeking to run into someone! its just u experience it first hand and itll make u a better driver
Nebulous Minmatar Thukker Insurgents	Posted - 2008.09.08 20:57:00 - [6] Originally by: Sgt Blade so today i nearly crashed and seeing i have only passed my driving test 10 months ago, i was pretty scared afterwards... so im at a red light and once it turns green i turn right and up the road to get home today. about 30 meters on there is a junction on my left onto a small street. I see a yellow car or sorts come up to the junction and stop as im heading towards him. i have right of way so i dont have to let him out.... i also notice a young child on a push bike and a car behind him coming down the hill on the other side of the road.the young child on his push bike slowly crosses over to my side, the wrong side of the road to travel down. now as im wondering if he will make it onto the pavement before i get to him the yellow car jumps out onto the main road from the minor road and then slams his break... blocking my whole lane. out of reaction i serve right onto the wrong side of the road to avoid the yellow car, then i serve back left to avoid the car coming down the hill all the while not hitting the kid who manages to get onto the pavement before i get to him.... now thinking back to it, if i tried to break, i would have hit the yellow car anyway side on.... the car behind me would have hit me because he only manages to stop about a meter or so from hitting the yellow car after i moved out the way... but of course thinking back if i hit the car coming down the hill... it would have been my fault or if i hit the child that would have been a really sticky situation for me so for those who have been driving longer then me... is my driving bad... and did i make the right decision? im still scared and its been like an hour after hehe Golden rule of driving, never ever swerve to avoid an accident, always apply your brakes only and if a collision happens then it happens, if you swerve and hit someone who was not involved then you get in trouble with the police and your insurance, and the guy that pulled in front of you will just drive off scot free. -----------------
Vabjekf	Posted - 2008.09.08 21:31:00 - [7] You should have shifted into overdrift
ReaperOfSly Gallente Lyrus Associates The Star Fraction	Posted - 2008.09.08 21:36:00 - [8] Originally by: Bosie I'd have drove into the yellow car. A bus decided yesterday to pull out in front of me on a roundabout, I kept going and missed him by inches as he slammed on the breaks hard. Right of way means just that. The last thing you want written on your tombstone is "He died defending his right of way". If another road user wants to be an idiot/***/****, let him sort himself out and don't get too close. If you assume that all other road users are going to do something idiotic, you'll avoid a lot of hairy situations. __________________________ Quote:** ...bored, skint, no charter, and a ship that looks like an explosion in a girder factory...
Atomos Darksun Infortunatus Eventus Obsidian Empire	Posted - 2008.09.08 22:48:00 - [9] Originally by: ReaperOfSly Originally by: Bosie I'd have drove into the yellow car. A bus decided yesterday to pull out in front of me on a roundabout, I kept going and missed him by inches as he slammed on the breaks hard. Right of way means just that. The last thing you want written on your tombstone is "He died defending his right of way". If another road user wants to be an idiot/***/****, let him sort himself out and don't get too close. If you assume that all other road users are going to do something idiotic, you'll avoid a lot of hairy situations. This. Originally by:** Amoxin My vent is talking to me in a devil voice... Atomos' Guide to Forum Flaming
Jorana Rowan Gallente Flying Fox Industries	Posted - 2008.09.08 22:55:00 - [10] It seems to me that you were actually already analysing the situation in front of you in quite a lot of detail, thinking about what the child would do, etc. That's really good. Too many of us can get very complacent and develop really bad driving habits. So, I think you're a good driver and you managed to avoid what could have been a nasty situation by assessing and analysing then reacting very quickly. The horrible feelings about the incident will wear off after a while and your confidence will come back. No matter what the 'rules' of the road are, its always good to judge the situation and act accordingly. You can't always rely on other people to obey the rules and assuming they will is just daft. Not only that, but you can't tell where the other drivers actually learned to drive. For instance, in some countries, the side roads have priority. I almost got sidesmacked by someone who pulled right out on me. Its just better to play it safe.

Vega Alioth Caldari	Posted - 2008.09.08 22:57:00 - [11] lol same position as you - also passed about 11 months ago and almost crashed last night - going to fast down a country road on the long part of a T junction (down a hill) - didn't realise, spotted it, slammed on the breaks but because there was loads of grit on the road skidded straight onto the other side of the road and across the junction stopping 2 metres before the ditch - close one - fortunately no other cars so didnt die - will be a little more careful for a few months until i forget it [i have never crashed...]
Sgt Blade Caldari M. Corp Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2008.09.08 23:03:00 - [12] Originally by: Nebulous Golden rule of driving, never ever swerve to avoid an accident, always apply your brakes only and if a collision happens then it happens, if you swerve and hit someone who was not involved then you get in trouble with the police and your insurance, and the guy that pulled in front of you will just drive off scot free. yeah thats the main reason why im abit iffy about what i did, could have went completely wrong and messed up. but i saw the car on its way down the road so i more or less knew what was around me tbh Hypnotic Pelvic Thrusting Level 5
Gone'Postal Minmatar Warped Mining	Posted - 2008.09.08 23:04:00 - [13] I'd have slamed into that yellow car full force tbh. Boost SISI VOTE NOW!
Jacob Mei	Posted - 2008.09.08 23:23:00 - [14] Sounds like you were in a hopless situation and just managed to take the best option. If anything the yellow car driver is the worse one of the bunch. -------------------------------- To borrow a phrase: Players who post are like stars, there are bright ones and those who are dim.
SoftRevolution	Posted - 2008.09.09 03:40:00 - [15] Isaac Newton has right of way. What you as a driver have is priority. EVE RELATED CONTENT
Alphonze Tleilaxu	Posted - 2008.09.09 06:48:00 - [16] Just be glad that you werent on a motorcycle. Ive had my moto license (here in Aus) for about a year and the number of near misses ive had is just astounding. Everytime 'cept maybe once would have been the other drivers fault. Just shows that you are looking further then 10meters in front. The further you look and the more detail you pay attention to could mean a lot one day. Dont forget to watch those motorcyclists... no matter how you hit them (Avoid it at all costs) we will end up in hospital as we dont have a tonne of aluminium protecting us.
The TX Gallente Pulsar Combat Supplies Alternative Realities	Posted - 2008.09.09 07:14:00 - [17] TX the Bus Driver from Brighton here.... Natural reaction in a situation like this is avoid hitting something - in the tiny little instant that these situations develop, I'd say it's mostly instincts that kick in, and your brain just says "DANGER - Avoid hitting that." And you swerve to miss things. You did what I would probably have done too. Unfortunately, those instincts can let you down - but it's not your fault, it's not always possible to think and react as quickly as a situation is needed (which is why safety campaigners will always tell you to keep your distance and slow down in order to 'see more' etc). I read in the paper in the last few days that an accident between a bus and a tram in Croydon (a little south of London for those non-UKers amongst you) in which ONE PERSON DIED (!!!) was the result of the bus driver swerving to miss another vehicle that was doing something daft. Keep going the way you're going though, and the majority of the time, you'll be the one that avoids incidents and the baggage that comes with them. To the guy who said a bus pulled out in front of him: If it wasn't a bus, and was a car instead, would there have been enough room/time for him to go? It takes a MUCH bigger gap in traffic to get a bus out of/into a junction - the times I've sat for 5 mins waiting for a chance but never getting that chance. They're big, they're slow, they can't help it - please give them some slack :-) However, if it was a blatant pull-out-in-front-of jobby, then he was a naughty bus driver.... probably a Stagecoach driver :-P -------------------- [Signature] [/Signature]
Reven Cordelle Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.09.09 08:04:00 - [18] If you drive obscenely slow like I do, nothing takes you by surprise. Its my new thesis on keeping my car, and myself in one piece, and pimping it old school... I passed in March, I learnt in a RHD Manual, bought a LHD Automatic. A 4.6L V8 Ford Mustang. Turning circle of a bus. In the UK, thats a pretty radical first car. I've had no problems keeping the beast tamed, and most other people don't contest it for some reason... Only problem is I can't park for shit. Now, your decision was probably best in the instance, your reactions seemed to work, you should be proud of that. Can't say i have more driving experience than you, hell.. i've only filled my cars tank twice since I bought it. Though I can't perfectly visualise the situation, it sounds as if it pivoted on the assumption of peoples actions, which is mostly the cause of every low speed accident. I wouldn't say you were a bad driver for it, it sounds like the yellow car was the primary problem here.
Evanade Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.09.09 08:26:00 - [19] The fact that you seme able to assess the situation afterwards without pointing fingers indicates you're a pretrty decent driver. --------------------------- sok alt - main got banzored
Cutter Isaacson Minmatar Hollow World Mining Corporation QUANT Hegemony	Posted - 2008.09.09 11:31:00 - [20] I had an incident similar to that a few years ago. A guy driving a shiny little Nissan 350Z tried to over-take a truck on a narrow road, completely ignoring the chevrons. I was coming in the opposite direction, with a truck right behind me and there was a family on push bikes on the pavement to my left. I couldn't slam on my brakes without being smashed into by the truck following me and I couldn't very well swerve onto the footpath or I would have crushed the people on their bikes. I ended up slamming almost completely head on into this 350Z. Luckily the truck driver behind me had the sense to see what was coming and slammed his brakes on in time. The truck that the 350Z had over-taken ended up tearing the whole back end of the nissan off and my car was shoved backwards into the front of the truck behind me. In situations like that you have only a split second to make a judgement call, the police said I made the best choice possible. If I'd mounted the pavement I would have killed the cyclists and if I'd swerved the other way I would have gone headfirst into the oncoming truck. To me it sounds like you made the best choice available to you at the time. Don't beat yourself up over it and take the advice someone else posted above me, always assume that everyone else on the road is a complete idiot and adjust your driving accordingly. Originally by: Haks'he Lirky Some people should just stick to Pac Man.

Lord Zoran House of Tempers	Posted - 2008.09.09 12:48:00 - [21] Edited by: Lord Zoran on 09/09/2008 12:49:24 i've had a few near misses myself but most of the time i find its just some idiot or them getting in the wrong lane etc, only passed in oct myself and luvin drivin, on my second car already (new astra ) but no crashes touch wood and i drive slower now i have a nicer car. probably haven't got more exp then you but all i can say is you done alright and just watch out for the idiots
Bosie Veto Corp	Posted - 2008.09.09 20:41:00 - [22] Originally by: The TX TX the Bus Driver from Brighton here.... Natural reaction in a situation like this is avoid hitting something - in the tiny little instant that these situations develop, I'd say it's mostly instincts that kick in, and your brain just says "DANGER - Avoid hitting that." And you swerve to miss things. You did what I would probably have done too. Unfortunately, those instincts can let you down - but it's not your fault, it's not always possible to think and react as quickly as a situation is needed (which is why safety campaigners will always tell you to keep your distance and slow down in order to 'see more' etc). I read in the paper in the last few days that an accident between a bus and a tram in Croydon (a little south of London for those non-UKers amongst you) in which ONE PERSON DIED (!!!) was the result of the bus driver swerving to miss another vehicle that was doing something daft. Keep going the way you're going though, and the majority of the time, you'll be the one that avoids incidents and the baggage that comes with them. To the guy who said a bus pulled out in front of him: If it wasn't a bus, and was a car instead, would there have been enough room/time for him to go? It takes a MUCH bigger gap in traffic to get a bus out of/into a junction - the times I've sat for 5 mins waiting for a chance but never getting that chance. They're big, they're slow, they can't help it - please give them some slack :-) However, if it was a blatant pull-out-in-front-of jobby, then he was a naughty bus driver.... probably a Stagecoach driver :-P It was a small roundabout and we were the only two vehicles approaching it from opposite sides and I know my right hand indicators work and were on. "There is a forgotten, nay almost forbidden word, which means more to me than any other. That word is ENGLAND
Meepness22 Ministry of War	Posted - 2008.09.09 21:52:00 - [23] Doesn't seem like your Mostly Harmless to me
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong	Posted - 2008.09.09 22:00:00 - [24] to be honest I would of slowed down once the kid entered the picture and honked 2 times lightly. Thus if the yellow car pulled out I would then bump into him and not slam. and if he tried to go anyways (which it sounds like he saw the other car coming so he stopped) he would be an ass. point is as much fun as insurance money can be, not having to do deal with the bullshit of getting the money and the car fixed, is painful. even if you gain money it's not wroth it trust me.
Slade Trillgon Siorai Iontach	Posted - 2008.09.09 22:25:00 - [25] If this makes you a bad driver then I should not behind the wheel. I still consider mself a very aware driver, I lost my ability to claim that I am a good driver many tickets and a few accidents ago. Sounds like you did what you could at the time, don't beat yourself up about it. As said before, it is good that you are quesioning yourself, that shows a sense of responsibility which is good at your age. Keep driving, learning, and let the idiot drivers pass. Slade Originally by: Crumplecorn NerfBat is now known as the WaveMachine. DesuSigs
Sharupak Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2008.09.10 00:06:00 - [26] Quote: my driving test 10 months ago That pretty much makes it a yes. _______________________________________________ RuntimeError: ChainEvent is blocking by design, but you're block trapped. You have'll have to find some alternative means to do Your Thing, dude.
The TX Gallente Pulsar Combat Supplies Alternative Realities	Posted - 2008.09.10 10:41:00 - [27] As we're on the subject of driving and crashes and incidents and stuff... Linkage (Rick Roll Free) -------------------- [Signature] [/Signature]
quickshot89 Caldari	Posted - 2008.09.10 10:45:00 - [28] its the amount of idiots on the road, im glad but annoyed the UK is shaking up its tests, but IMO, if they change the test everyone should be forced to re-take it
The TX Gallente Pulsar Combat Supplies Alternative Realities	Posted - 2008.09.10 11:53:00 - [29] Originally by: quickshot89 its the amount of idiots on the road, im glad but annoyed the UK is shaking up its tests, but IMO, if they change the test everyone should be forced to re-take it I partially agree. I think that everyone should be retested every 5 or 10 years. If you fail, you have to retake again in 6 months. Revoking a licence is harsh, so I'd say that if you fail, you HAVE to take another test.... and so on and so forth, perhaps. So unless you wanna keep on having tests and forking out ú50 a time for it, you better brush up your skills and drive properly! ;-) -------------------- [Signature] [/Signature]
Bosie Veto Corp	Posted - 2008.09.10 20:48:00 - [30] Originally by: quickshot89 its the amount of idiots on the road, im glad but annoyed the UK is shaking up its tests, but IMO, if they change the test everyone should be forced to re-take it No thanks. "There is a forgotten, nay almost forbidden word, which means more to me than any other. That word is ENGLAND



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