Lets keep a sense of perspective here. Issler Dainze is not the person who has currently dragged the reputation of both the CSM chair and the wider Eve community through the mud in the eyes of the gaming press and ruined what should have been a clean sweep of good coverage following an exceptional fanfest.

In any rational assessment the Mittani (Alexander Gianturco) is finished as CSM chair. I imagine at this point he's literally holding his head in his hands and talking to his wife about whether he can even afford to continue being associated with the game of eve online after his performance at fanfest. The quite literal professional "suicide" he committed there IS that bad.

As for Issler she looks like being scapegoated at the moment. Understand, I didn't vote for her, I didn't much like her policies. But she is trying to push an agenda of personal responsibility from the current CSM team where we get to see what each of them actually *think* about this crisis rather than disappearing behind a magic curtain and letting the "wizard" tell us how its going to be.

Sure she could probably be handling it better, could have waited to say something, could have done skype from a laptop or something, could be in coms somehow whatever. But I do get the impression she is at least in tune with the understanding a lot of us have about how far off message into the hinterlands of lunacy the current CSM chair has gone.

except that's not what wis did. And Mitt knows that because he knows the context of the emails in their entirety.

Personally I have no issue with IsslerGÇÖs statement and think it is quite welcome and if the other CSM members have an issue with that and wonGÇÖt work with Issler over it they need to take a good hard look at their own ethics.

We can put it to the test you know.. our news are a bit boring.. im sure i can get some news channel to pick it up..i even be fair.. i give them a link to Mitanni's performance on the fanfeast, and one to Issler's statement.. wanna beat which one gonna be in the news?

Issler, like any other candidate ISNT on the CSM to play nice with mittens, she is there to represent people, and ensure that what goes on in CSM, what she stands for and what every one else stands for isnt sweept under the carpet, and hidden in "joint statements" saying nothing. We had enuff of that crap already.. to much null in CSM, to much politics. The part where we vote, and the ppl voted for just "vanish" to emerge a year later stating "i worked in CSM" meaning nothing - its a part we need removed from this game..

And trust me, if u wanna see eve fail epicly, burning to the ground, all it takes is CSM to pretend as nothing, CCP to pretend as nothing, Mittani - as usual not giving a **** RL or in eve.. and a a clever reporter with some free time on his hands to see Mittani's little stunt, and read this forums.. i can see the tv-show host already:
"SO this game has a playervoted leader whom not only mocks a suicidal player, OPENLY states his names - no - , he encourages players to help him out drive the guy to the ground, and if you thought thats bad, just wait until you find out that EVE's playerbase supports his actions" *WHOMP* kiss ure eve-ass goodbye... Elected CSM members like Issler making statements may be what actually would SAVE EVE in such a situation.

Everybody with a titan or a grudge against GS is terrified he won't step down now, because as soon as the immediacy of the situation was over it became obvious he really doesn't need to.

They have to believe he was genuinely suicidal. Otherwise Mittens was just making a joke at another guy's hyperbole and their foaming at the mouth is unfounded.

Actually weather or not the person was or was not genuinely suicidal does not enter into it at all.

All that enters into it is that someone was calling for another persons death vie suicide through harassment to push him too it.



You might as well be taking the stance that women get raped cause of the clothing they have on. Do you think that if they dress sexy that they were asking for it too? Just curious?

Lets just hope he doesn't win the CSM and get up on stage drunk at fanfest and then ask for some gay guys to get harrassed into suicide eh?"

Because then we'd have to use the same punishment the Mittani got.

Because the leader of a RL corporation staggering around drunk and falling into the dustbins has the same impact on share price and market tracking as the janitor doing it right?

I really need you to tell me if you know the difference between Real life and In game?

Wis didnt try to get someone killed on a live stream outside of game.


Keep trying to spin this, its not working. More like a car spinning its wheels in the mud.

You seem to have lost the plot. maybe you need to unplug your keyboard.