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Hieronimus Rex Minmatar Infinitus Sapientia New Eden Research	Posted - 2008.09.10 15:09:00 - [1] discuss
Deviana Sevidon Gallente Panta-Rhei United Front Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.10 15:10:00 - [2] No. IBTL
Jana Clant New Dawn Corp New Eden Research	Posted - 2008.09.10 15:11:00 - [3] No, it just doesn't happen to have a release date. 9 out of 10 blueprints prefer New Eden Research!
Imiarr Timshae Caldari Funny Men In Funny Hats	Posted - 2008.09.10 15:19:00 - [4] I have no idea what vaporware means, but it certainly will be useless. Good old fluff. "Look, wow, you can walk in stations. Btw don't undock or the lag will get you, welcome to every mission hub in Eve."
Nicholas Barker Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.10 15:23:00 - [5] Originally by: Imiarr Timshae I have no idea what vaporware means, but it certainly will be useless. Good old fluff. "Look, wow, you can walk in stations. Btw don't undock or the lag will get you, welcome to every mission hub in Eve." stop going to hub systems then you dolt. --------- I JUST FOUND THE GAME!
Grimpak Gallente Trinity Nova Trinity Nova Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.10 15:24:00 - [6] Originally by: Imiarr Timshae I have no idea what vaporware means, but it certainly will be useless. Good old fluff. "Look, wow, you can walk in stations. Btw don't undock or the lag will get you, welcome to every mission hub in Eve." it will still be cool because you will be upstraight walking about and that means that you will be F R E A K I N' V E R T I C A L wich is cool. unless you're lying on the floor or sitting down in a chair of sorts. --- Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals. ain't that right.
Faife Minmatar Kinda'Shujaa	Posted - 2008.09.10 15:24:00 - [7] yes, and so is the game they're designing it for. you figured them all out. Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Saint
Kakuremichi	Posted - 2008.09.10 15:43:00 - [8] Originally by: Grimpak Originally by: Imiarr Timshae I have no idea what vaporware means, but it certainly will be useless. Good old fluff. "Look, wow, you can walk in stations. Btw don't undock or the lag will get you, welcome to every mission hub in Eve." it will still be cool because you will be upstraight walking about and that means that you will be F R E A K I N' V E R T I C A L wich is cool. unless you're lying on the floor or sitting down in a chair of sorts. QFT Hey....wait a minute, this is a stealth minmatar nerf, they won't be the only ones with vertical things
RuleoftheBone Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.09.10 15:47:00 - [9] You mean: E M O V A M P I R E S O N L I N E T E S T B E D "Lead Me..Follow Me..Or get the **** out of my way" General George Patton USA
An Anarchyyt Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.09.10 15:57:00 - [10] Originally by: Imiarr Timshae I have no idea what vaporware means, but it certainly will be useless. That's okay, neither does the OP. But that didn't stop either of you from posting something ****ed. Originally by:** CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
Daelin Blackleaf	Posted - 2008.09.10 16:10:00 - [11] Originally by: Kakuremichi QFT Hey....wait a minute, this is a stealth minmatar nerf, they won't be the only ones with vertical things Myrmidon. Also to the naysayers: yes it will be useless fluff. The graphics update was useless fluff, the fact that we don't just fly ASCII symbols is useless fluff, the back-story is useless fluff, all the written descriptions are useless fluff, names other than race A cruiser B are useless fluff. Unless of course you value a little immersion in your games in which case "useless fluff" becomes one of the primary reason play. ------------------------------- Hi-Sec: A place for the average player to make a safe income, not the place for the average player to make the best income.
Ruze Amarr No Applicable Corporation	Posted - 2008.09.10 16:16:00 - [12] Originally by: Daelin Blackleaf Originally by: Kakuremichi QFT Hey....wait a minute, this is a stealth minmatar nerf, they won't be the only ones with vertical things Myrmidon. Also to the naysayers: yes it will be useless fluff. The graphics update was useless fluff, the fact that we don't just fly ASCII symbols is useless fluff, the back-story is useless fluff, all the written descriptions are useless fluff, names other than race A cruiser B are useless fluff. Unless of course you value a little immersion in your games in which case "useless fluff" becomes one of the primary reason play. Immersion for the win. That being said, nothing would stop CCP from taking money earned in EvE and investing it in a new MMO that is supposedly going to target an entirely different playerbase. Seriously, CCP is a company like any other, and diversification is pretty important. It's not like CCP = EvE or anything. Nor is there any proof for or against that putting more money or developers on EvE would get us any better performance. So in my opinion, if they are going to be doing the work on another game anyway, I'm fcking sht happy that they will be giving us loyal EvE players some fruits of that labor, even if it's just extra immersion and fluff. Besides, maybe one day EvE will allow FPS warfare, and I can stop playing Battlefield 2 and cancel my PlanetSide accounts I really, really hate SOE. Originally by: CCP Greyscale consciously deciding not to join a corp is pretty much deciding that you don't want to have fun
SoftRevolution	Posted - 2008.09.10 16:17:00 - [13] It's fanfest in two months. They want cool stuff to surprise you with at fanfest. Presumably that's why they're not flooding us with videos. If nothing else they have to get the engine done to get WOD out the door.
000Hunter000 Gallente Missiles 'R' Us	Posted - 2008.09.10 16:24:00 - [14] Some of u naysayers are hillarious! I mean cmon!!! u get a FREE expansion u are NOT forced to use in any way and u say no... err... Hello??? U guys crack me up!!! _______________________________________________________ CCP, let us pay the online shop with Direct Debit!!!
Riga Mortiss	Posted - 2008.09.10 16:29:00 - [15] Ambulation will come... although what benefit it will have for the overall game I have no idea apart from the "gee whizzz.. wow.. golly" factor. CCP has said that ambulation will be on a separate server set so it shouldn't impact the game as a whole. That being said.. I for one.. .Would have MUCH rather seen the effort go in to recoding the client to help deal with the LagMonster.. now THAT would give me a chubby....
Sharupak Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2008.09.10 16:31:00 - [16] Originally by: Daelin Blackleaf Originally by: Kakuremichi QFT Hey....wait a minute, this is a stealth minmatar nerf, they won't be the only ones with vertical things Myrmidon. Also to the naysayers: yes it will be useless fluff. The graphics update was useless fluff, the fact that we don't just fly ASCII symbols is useless fluff, the back-story is useless fluff, all the written descriptions are useless fluff, names other than race A cruiser B are useless fluff. Unless of course you value a little immersion in your games in which case "useless fluff" becomes one of the primary reason play. Dang it! I knew I sould have kept my 386 with the 26.6k modem so that I could play D&D on my buddy's BBS! _______________________________________________ RuntimeError: ChainEvent is blocking by design, but you're block trapped. You have'll have to find some alternative means to do Your Thing, dude.
Dantes Revenge Caldari	Posted - 2008.09.10 16:34:00 - [17] I want to see the next expansion that allows your avatar to lip synch to Eve voice. Imagine seeing so many avatars chatting but not hearing a thing because you're not on their channel. Unless they create a channel that will automatically switch to a bar channel so you can hear all the chatter. Now that would be a good update, you can hear everyone else talking so you can evesdrop but if you talk to someone near you, you can hear each other louder than others who are some distance away. It allows players to wander up and evesdrop on someone fairly close because they can hear them louder than they can hear everyone else. With a good lip synch, you could even lip read your targets. Spying takes on a whole new light. -- There's a simple difference between kinky and perverted. Kinky is using a feather to get her in the mood. Perverted is using the whole chicken.
Alora Venoda GalTech Giant Space Amoeba	Posted - 2008.09.10 16:36:00 - [18] well supposedly, with Ambulation will come a fashion industry with I guess could be a buff for industrialists, or at least market traders... depending on how it's implemented ofc. ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ Take away the risk and it would make flying around in space utterly pointless. Take away the flying around part and you make EVE into a space themed spreadsheet application.
Kyra Felann Gallente Noctis Fleet Technologies	Posted - 2008.09.10 16:45:00 - [19] Originally by: Daelin Blackleaf Also to the naysayers: yes it will be useless fluff. The graphics update was useless fluff, the fact that we don't just fly ASCII symbols is useless fluff, the back-story is useless fluff, all the written descriptions are useless fluff, names other than race A cruiser B are useless fluff. Unless of course you value a little immersion in your games in which case "useless fluff" becomes one of the primary reason play. You win the thread. I'm sure all the people who don't like fluff wouldn't mind if the game were reduced to text readouts and icons, right? Or each race could just be a color and each ship type a different geometrical shape. So a Gallente Frigate could be a blue rectangular pyramid. Except it wouldn't be called "Gallente" or a "frigate", it would just be a blue rectangular pyramid. All this "backstory" and "setting" is fluff, as you put it.
Alz Shado Ever Flow HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2008.09.10 17:57:00 - [20] Edited by: Alz Shado on 10/09/2008 17:58:30 telnet mud.eveonline.com WELCOME TO EVE ONLINE! FRARN ---- RENS \|.S..\| --------- GYNG<....\|###<[email protected]..\| \|....># \|...A.....>ABUDBAN \|....\| \|.d..PsP..\| -\/- ------\/- ILLINFRIK ODATRIK Alz Shado WIL:12 MEM:7 INT:11 PER:9 CHR:15 Standing: .5 MAX SPEED: 120k/s TEMPEST SH:12500(12500) AR:8000(8000) ST:10000(10000) CP: 5500(6000) Skill: Minmatar Battleship L4(5) 77696(362039) HI: 6x1200mm II 1: 12(12) 2: 12(12) 3: 12(12) 4:12(12) 5: 12(12) 6: 12(12) MID: 100MN MWD II \| L Cap Booster II \| L SHD Booster II \| Sig Amplifier II LOW: GYRO II \| GYRO II \| 1600mm RT \| PDU II \| COMMAND: (edit: duh, everyone knows it's Illinfrik linked to Frarn, not Lustrevik) //// ---------=== []= ---------=== \\\\ Rifter(RedBad) "Kill a man one is a murderer; kill a million, a conqueror; kill them all, a God." -- Jean Rostand
Hieronimus Rex Minmatar Infinitus Sapientia New Eden Research	Posted - 2008.09.10 18:01:00 - [21] Originally by: Alz Shado Edited by: Alz Shado on 10/09/2008 17:58:30 telnet mud.eveonline.com WELCOME TO EVE ONLINE! FRARN ---- RENS \|.S..\| --------- GYNG<....\|###<[email protected]..\| \|....># \|...A.....>ABUDBAN \|....\| \|.d..PsP..\| -\/- ------\/- ILLINFRIK ODATRIK Alz Shado WIL:12 MEM:7 INT:11 PER:9 CHR:15 Standing: .5 MAX SPEED: 120k/s TEMPEST SH:12500(12500) AR:8000(8000) ST:10000(10000) CP: 5500(6000) Skill: Minmatar Battleship L4(5) 77696(362039) HI: 6x1200mm II 1: 12(12) 2: 12(12) 3: 12(12) 4:12(12) 5: 12(12) 6: 12(12) MID: 100MN MWD II \| L Cap Booster II \| L SHD Booster II \| Sig Amplifier II LOW: GYRO II \| GYRO II \| 1600mm RT \| PDU II \| COMMAND: (edit: duh, everyone knows it's Illinfrik linked to Frarn, not Lustrevik) On the plus side, the market would be really really easy to use if you could modify orders with a few lines of code. Unfortunately, macros would be rampant.
ShadowDraqon Awesome Industries Group	Posted - 2008.09.10 19:01:00 - [22] Originally by: Hieronimus Rex CCP hasn't updated the planned future changes page in forever, among other things. They're too busy working to update it Quote: useless fluff No it's not ____________________ I had a sig here, but I NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM nommed it...
Ekrid	Posted - 2008.09.10 19:21:00 - [23] yes
Imiarr Timshae Caldari Funny Men In Funny Hats	Posted - 2008.09.10 19:36:00 - [24] Originally by: An Anarchyyt Originally by: Imiarr Timshae I have no idea what vaporware means, but it certainly will be useless. That's okay, neither does the OP. But that didn't stop either of you from posting something ******ed. Obviously?
P'uck	Posted - 2008.09.10 19:45:00 - [25] Edited by: P''uck on 10/09/2008 19:47:01 Originally by: Alz Shado Edited by: Alz Shado on 10/09/2008 17:58:30 telnet mud.eveonline.com WELCOME TO EVE ONLINE! FRARN ---- RENS \|.S..\| --------- GYNG<....\|###<[email protected]..\| \|....># \|...A.....>ABUDBAN \|....\| \|.d..PsP..\| -\/- ------\/- ILLINFRIK ODATRIK Alz Shado WIL:12 MEM:7 INT:11 PER:9 CHR:15 Standing: .5 MAX SPEED: 120k/s TEMPEST SH:12500(12500) AR:8000(8000) ST:10000(10000) CP: 5500(6000) Skill: Minmatar Battleship L4(5) 77696(362039) HI: 6x1200mm II 1: 12(12) 2: 12(12) 3: 12(12) 4:12(12) 5: 12(12) 6: 12(12) MID: 100MN MWD II \| L Cap Booster II \| L SHD Booster II \| Sig Amplifier II LOW: GYRO II \| GYRO II \| 1600mm RT \| PDU II \| COMMAND: (edit: duh, everyone knows it's Illinfrik linked to Frarn, not Lustrevik) 1) man, that's one ****ed up tempest. 2) look north > there is no "north" in space, you dolt. and something on topic: you guys played "privateer"? I really liked docking up in a station which was hard to get to and maybe get some new interior graphics as a little treat for surviving the trip. It made the whole experience a lot more immersive, and I really DO hope it will improve the space captain-ish feeling to get more things to do inside stations. Apart from spinning the ship. I using different station services will also bring some more eyecandy. Id love to see some robotic arms install mah pew pew gear.
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong	Posted - 2008.09.10 20:27:00 - [26] Originally by: Hieronimus Rex Edited by: Hieronimus Rex on 10/09/2008 17:36:07 CCP hasn't updated the planned future changes page in forever, among other things. as in 4 days ago? that's really mean to expect ccp to update the planned features page again when it's been up for at least 2 weeks now. Maybe in the future ccp should update that page every day! just change what will happen over and over again for you! Quote: It's that CCP is devoting developer resources away from currently very pressing gameplay issues like the functionality of the GUI and overview bugs towards 'fluff' - ambulation in this case. ummm.... the artists aren't programers and you want them as far away as possible from the code. also it's the new team in the US doing ambulation mostly as it wil be used in the whitewolf mmorpg. Final note is the fact that you can only have so many people on a project. and seeing as CCP now employs over 300 people I think they have more than enough people working on stuff. and lastly get your facts striaght before you post about something, calling out the in devopment page when it was just updated is sad.
Alora Venoda GalTech Giant Space Amoeba	Posted - 2008.09.10 20:41:00 - [27] Originally by: MotherMoon Originally by: Hieronimus Rex Edited by: Hieronimus Rex on 10/09/2008 17:36:07 CCP hasn't updated the planned future changes page in forever, among other things. as in 4 days ago? that's really mean to expect ccp to update the planned features page again when it's been up for at least 2 weeks now. Maybe in the future ccp should update that page every day! just change what will happen over and over again for you! Quote: It's that CCP is devoting developer resources away from currently very pressing gameplay issues like the functionality of the GUI and overview bugs towards 'fluff' - ambulation in this case. ummm.... the artists aren't programers and you want them as far away as possible from the code. also it's the new team in the US doing ambulation mostly as it wil be used in the whitewolf mmorpg. Final note is the fact that you can only have so many people on a project. and seeing as CCP now employs over 300 people I think they have more than enough people working on stuff. and lastly get your facts striaght before you post about something, calling out the in devopment page when it was just updated is sad. linky to development page: http://myeve.eve-online.com/updates/indevelopment.asp the "winter expansion" sounds like it will be cool, but doesn't really have much detail ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ Take away the risk and it would make flying around in space utterly pointless. Take away the flying around part and you make EVE into a space themed spreadsheet application.
Synapse Archae Amarr Demonic Retribution Un-Natural Selection	Posted - 2008.09.10 20:49:00 - [28] It's dark. You are likely to be eaten by a Tempest. Originally by: CCP Garthagk While these forums may not give you everything that you want, they will usually let you post.
Dantes Revenge Caldari	Posted - 2008.09.14 22:33:00 - [29] The 'in development pages have changed but the 'drawingboard' page is as static as ever. I guess small player housing will never move up the ladder while all the stuff that was never asked for goes onto the development stage immediately. There is enough on the drawingboard to keep CCP going with updates for the next two years but they keep on introducing stuff that either doesn't work properly or has no value to gameplay. I agree that ambulation is fluff since it doesn't really advance gameplay in any way unless ambulation allows you to give your agent a slap for giving you yet another boring milk run. Such things as in-station combat would have been good so that station huggers would never get immunity by docking. Add a station channel so players could talk to others in the station only, add an Eve voice channel for station users with a private room facility to enable two or more players to meet and chat in private, this allows for meetings of CEO's to plan the future of the alliance etc. Walking in stations is fine to add a short interest to the game but once you've done it for a short while, you'll get bored unless it gives some purpose to playing Eve. My guess is that every avatar is going to be nearly identical because everyone will go for a muscular and toned body and perfect face, I doubt you'll ever see a short fat ugly one unless it's just for a joke. -- There's a simple difference between kinky and perverted. Kinky is using a feather to get her in the mood. Perverted is using the whole chicken.
CynoCyno1	Posted - 2008.09.14 22:49:00 - [30] Yes it is. CCP have gave up EVE long ago & are working on sumthing else while you all still play around in there Sandbox Called EVE, As they laugh there way to the bank.

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