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Excommunicator Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2008.09.12 07:19:00 - [1] Purely out of curiosity, what is the length of the CSM Electee's stay in office?
Vaal Erit Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.09.12 07:50:00 - [2] Each Council is elected for a mandate period of 6 months; no representative can be elected more than two mandate periods. -- http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong	Posted - 2008.09.12 10:24:00 - [3] and once it ends I'll be running! and not as mothermoon but an alt so my name/my history/and my forum posting have nothing to do with it. I'll be running as me, in real life as a 3d artist and a level designer
Sheriff Jones Amarr Clinical Experiment	Posted - 2008.09.12 10:57:00 - [4] Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 12/09/2008 10:57:03 Well, i believe i'll be running. I think i have a positive, even though not even a decimal of chribbas, look on peoples minds, and also i've worked as a graphic artist, quality assurance manager, concept, level and lead game design for almost 8 years now altogether. Even though, experience in the game industry has tick all to do with the CSM and i believe i can fill the shoes of a CSM with ruthless efficiency, suprise and... *people in red robes burst through the door* "NOOOOBODY paraphrases the spanish inquisition! Our main weapon is fear a" Oh bugger off closes door So, as i was saying, i think i could be helpful in commuting information back and forth in a timely and efficient manner My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
Benilopax Gallente Pulsar Combat Supplies Alternative Realities	Posted - 2008.09.12 11:02:00 - [5] I think I shall sit out this next term and run in the spring, weather is nicer for a start, then again midnight sun sucks. Anyways I'll kick my campaign off now. Vote Benilopax in 09!
Alex V0X2 Minmatar Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.09.12 11:04:00 - [6] Edited by: Alex V0X2 on 12/09/2008 11:04:58 Oh god what to do....2 alts for sheriff 1 for benilo....or bribe my friend for his vote on benilo....OMG I HAZ CONFUSION! Too many awesomezors running in same campaign \o/
Benilopax Gallente Pulsar Combat Supplies Alternative Realities	Posted - 2008.09.12 11:06:00 - [7] Originally by: Alex V0X2 Edited by: Alex V0X2 on 12/09/2008 11:04:58 Oh god what to do....2 alts for sheriff 1 for benilo....or bribe my friend for his vote on benilo....OMG I HAZ CONFUSION! Too many awesomezors running in same campaign I love you too.
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong	Posted - 2008.09.12 11:09:00 - [8] Originally by: Sheriff Jones Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 12/09/2008 10:57:03 Well, i believe i'll be running. I think i have a positive, even though not even a decimal of chribbas, look on peoples minds, and also i've worked as a graphic artist, quality assurance manager, concept, level and lead game design for almost 8 years now altogether. Even though, experience in the game industry has tick all to do with the CSM and i believe i can fill the shoes of a CSM with ruthless efficiency, suprise and... *people in red robes burst through the door* it's hard to not wave your name around to get votes isn't it ? "NOOOOBODY paraphrases the spanish inquisition! Our main weapon is fear a" Oh bugger off closes door So, as i was saying, i think i could be helpful in commuting information back and forth in a timely and efficient manner
Vikarion Caldari BLACK 0RIGIN Red Dawn Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.12 14:15:00 - [9] Originally by: Sheriff Jones Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 12/09/2008 10:57:03 Well, i believe i'll be running. I think i have a positive, even though not even a decimal of chribbas, look on peoples minds, and also i've worked as a graphic artist, quality assurance manager, concept, level and lead game design for almost 8 years now altogether. Even though, experience in the game industry has tick all to do with the CSM and i believe i can fill the shoes of a CSM with ruthless efficiency, suprise and... *people in red robes burst through the door* "NOOOOBODY paraphrases the spanish inquisition! Our main weapon is fear a" Oh bugger off closes door So, as i was saying, i think i could be helpful in commuting information back and forth in a timely and efficient manner You have my vote. I wish Ruze would run, too. -------- EVE - The only non-consensual PvP MMORPG* *Note: does not contain non-consensual PvP as of 9/3/2008
Ruze Amarr No Applicable Corporation	Posted - 2008.09.12 14:20:00 - [10] Originally by: Vikarion Originally by: Sheriff Jones Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 12/09/2008 10:57:03 Well, i believe i'll be running. I think i have a positive, even though not even a decimal of chribbas, look on peoples minds, and also i've worked as a graphic artist, quality assurance manager, concept, level and lead game design for almost 8 years now altogether. Even though, experience in the game industry has tick all to do with the CSM and i believe i can fill the shoes of a CSM with ruthless efficiency, suprise and... *people in red robes burst through the door* "NOOOOBODY paraphrases the spanish inquisition! Our main weapon is fear a" Oh bugger off closes door So, as i was saying, i think i could be helpful in commuting information back and forth in a timely and efficient manner You have my vote. I wish Ruze would run, too. No thank you. You guys can have the CSM. It ain't for me ... Originally by: CCP Greyscale consciously deciding not to join a corp is pretty much deciding that you don't want to have fun
Vikarion Caldari BLACK 0RIGIN Red Dawn Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.12 14:22:00 - [11] Originally by: Ruze No thank you. You guys can have the CSM. It ain't for me ... But...but...you're like the only "balanced" personality on the forums! -------- EVE - The only non-consensual PvP MMORPG* *Note: does not contain non-consensual PvP as of 9/3/2008
Ruze Amarr No Applicable Corporation	Posted - 2008.09.12 14:27:00 - [12] Edited by: Ruze on 12/09/2008 14:28:00 Originally by: Vikarion Originally by: Ruze No thank you. You guys can have the CSM. It ain't for me ... But...but...you're like the only "balanced" personality on the forums! Dude, I breed hate and discontent like hairless children from my loins, I exuded arrogance and superiority like a high-dollar cologne, I ... Yeah, somehow I can accidentally pull off arrogance and know-it-all, despite the fact that I value other peoples ideas and have a 'humility' psychosis which makes me automatically differ to other people as being right. And I can do it with typed words, spoken words, or just standing in the fcking room. You DONT want me to be CSM. I'd spend more time pssing off people than helping get anything done. Originally by: CCP Greyscale consciously deciding not to join a corp is pretty much deciding that you don't want to have fun
Sheriff Jones Amarr Clinical Experiment	Posted - 2008.09.12 14:33:00 - [13] Actually Ruze, if i were to have someone out there with me, being ripped apart by forumgoers and inevitably ingame people, i'd hope it was you. For one, you could offer the discussion needed when deciding something, or when i needed to solve a trickier then usual minesweeper game, and for second, if you excuse the form that phrase is used in, i could use someone who coul fire bullets instead of just taking them My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
Vikarion Caldari BLACK 0RIGIN Red Dawn Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.12 14:39:00 - [14] See? You should both run. -------- EVE - The only non-consensual PvP MMORPG* *Note: does not contain non-consensual PvP as of 9/3/2008
Ruze Amarr No Applicable Corporation	Posted - 2008.09.12 14:41:00 - [15] Put Sherrif, Malcanis, Ki An/Maximillian, DigitalCommunist, Kellie Flay, Crumplecorn, Le Skunk, myself and a few others .... all on the same CSM ... God, we'd probably all get along just fine in person Originally by: CCP Greyscale consciously deciding not to join a corp is pretty much deciding that you don't want to have fun
Malcanis RuffRyders Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.09.12 14:44:00 - [16] Originally by: MotherMoon and once it ends I'll be running! and not as mothermoon but an alt so my name/my history/and my forum posting have nothing to do with it. I'll be running as me, in real life as a 3d artist and a level designer Yeah, see, the thing about a secret identity is... oh well, you'll work it out.
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2008.09.12 14:49:00 - [17] Ruze would get my vote if he ran. And that hypothetical CSM list includes a few other names I would like to see running too. - DesuSigs
Joss Sparq Caldari ANZAC ALLIANCE Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.13 11:16:00 - [18] Originally by: MotherMoon and once it ends I'll be running! and not as mothermoon but an alt so my name/my history/and my forum posting have nothing to do with it. I'll be running as me, in real life as a 3d artist and a level designer I noticed this thread the other day but didn't have time then to ask: so assuming that you're serious, you plan to run as an Alt and your core credentials are solely that you're a 3D artist and a level designer and not what we see of you here - why should members of the community vote for you on that basis and not your performance here?
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong	Posted - 2008.09.13 11:48:00 - [19] Originally by: Malcanis Originally by: MotherMoon and once it ends I'll be running! and not as mothermoon but an alt so my name/my history/and my forum posting have nothing to do with it. I'll be running as me, in real life as a 3d artist and a level designer Yeah, see, the thing about a secret identity is... oh well, you'll work it out. what, keep it sceret? ah hell I'm not the only artist on the forums.. but damn your right maybe that alone is too much information :P
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong	Posted - 2008.09.13 11:52:00 - [20] Originally by: Joss Sparq Originally by: MotherMoon and once it ends I'll be running! and not as mothermoon but an alt so my name/my history/and my forum posting have nothing to do with it. I'll be running as me, in real life as a 3d artist and a level designer I noticed this thread the other day but didn't have time then to ask: so assuming that you're serious, you plan to run as an Alt and your core credentials are solely that you're a 3D artist and a level designer and not what we see of you here - why should members of the community vote for you on that basis and not your performance here? mm while you have a good point I guess I don't believe the CSms role is to pitch idea but in fact repersent those who elect him. If I run as mothermoon I will have a history of what I want and don't want in eve. What I think is unbalanced or balanced. as an alt I could just run as someone who only wants to help get players ides to the devs which is the most important part. however your right as an art junkie I stil do believe the players should have a chance to pitch ideas to CCP, but that will be what mothermoon asked of the mystery alt running for CSM, the CSm member himself will be running... damn it it's getting a little to complacated . Or maybe running as my character would in fact be a better idea I don't know. bah I have to stop posting when I'm up this late.
Tekniq Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2008.09.13 12:07:00 - [21] when are the next elections?
Joe Umbra Legion Shadow Empire.	Posted - 2008.09.13 12:12:00 - [22] When (if) I run, I'll make sure to include a full history, along with the communitys ive had experience with. I'm not going to let those who elect me regrett it aftward by missrepresenting myself and putting on a different persona duing the official Election period. sounds like the RIGHT way todo it yah? Umbra Recruitment
Grarr Dexx Amarr The Cosa Nostra La Cosa Nostra Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.13 12:19:00 - [23] I would go too but I don't think my mom would like me to fly all the way to Iceland to discuss shit with old guys and people pretending to be girls on the internet AND run a ***** house for the sake of increasing the fun I get out of a game
Ruze Amarr No Applicable Corporation	Posted - 2008.09.13 13:26:00 - [24] Originally by: Joe When (if) I run, I'll make sure to include a full history, along with the communitys ive had experience with. I'm not going to let those who elect me regrett it aftward by missrepresenting myself and putting on a different persona duing the official Election period. sounds like the RIGHT way todo it yah? You can't win that way, either. Several of the CSM's made no effort to hide who or what they are, but when your an elected official, everyone and their mother will smear you and distort the facts. You can't get away from it. It's the corruption and twist of that kind of job. And MotherMoon, part of the act of being a 'representative' is that people don't elect you to speak for everyone, they elect you due to your own personal convictions, because they agree with how you think and will represent them as such. Course political groups always get elected under this principle, then sell out to the highest bribe or 'lobbyist'. Originally by: CCP Greyscale consciously deciding not to join a corp is pretty much deciding that you don't want to have fun
CynoCyno1	Posted - 2008.09.13 14:22:00 - [25] I could not care at all - =)
Veldya Caldari Guristari Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2008.09.13 14:22:00 - [26] I'd rather get repeatedly kicked in the groin than sit on the council or vote for someone else. In saying that, my vote is available to the highest bidder. ;)
Joss Sparq Caldari ANZAC ALLIANCE Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.13 15:21:00 - [27] Originally by: MotherMoon Originally by: Joss Sparq Originally by: MotherMoon and once it ends I'll be running! and not as mothermoon but an alt so my name/my history/and my forum posting have nothing to do with it. I'll be running as me, in real life as a 3d artist and a level designer I noticed this thread the other day but didn't have time then to ask: so assuming that you're serious, you plan to run as an Alt and your core credentials are solely that you're a 3D artist and a level designer and not what we see of you here - why should members of the community vote for you on that basis and not your performance here? mm while you have a good point I guess I don't believe the CSms role is to pitch idea but in fact repersent those who elect him. If I run as mothermoon I will have a history of what I want and don't want in eve. What I think is unbalanced or balanced. as an alt I could just run as someone who only wants to help get players ides to the devs which is the most important part. however your right as an art junkie I stil do believe the players should have a chance to pitch ideas to CCP, but that will be what mothermoon asked of the mystery alt running for CSM, the CSm member himself will be running... damn it it's getting a little to complacated . Or maybe running as my character would in fact be a better idea I don't know. bah I have to stop posting when I'm up this late. I readily agree that the CSM should (ideally) first and foremost represent the community to CCP rather than put their own "special interests" first above all else and to be clear to anyone reading this, when I say that I am not passing any sort of judgement on the current council. My opinion is that a good official, elected democratically, divorces themself from their personal preferences when making policy - instead obeying the will of the electorate. In the particular case of the CSM however, there is some acceptable room for personal preferences getting attention and this is probably a good thing if it keeps the council members engaged in their tasks. Besides, there will liikely be many more people within the electorate who hold those same issues near and dear. If you run, who (or what) you run as is entirely up to you to decide. I just think (this is in regards to all prospective candidates) that at the very least you damage your own ambition by not running as "yourself" - in this case, as MotherMoon. If I was to seek a seat on the CSM I'd be inclined to run on my own merits - whatever those are, exactly - and as Joss Sparq. If, after all, someone has a problem with my stated opinions then perhaps they shouldn't vote for me if they feel so strongly about it and if they do feel that strongly, then I'm glad they won't vote for me! As I'm probably not the right representative for them. In any event, good luck. As for posting late at night I agree with you: I am going to bed now, as I've just noticed it is past 01:00 and I have passed late and entered early
Verone Gallente Veto Corp	Posted - 2008.09.13 17:05:00 - [28] Edited by: Verone on 13/09/2008 17:05:32 I have high hopes for the next term of office for the CSM. It's going to be interesting to see who runs for position within it. Sadly, the first iteration has been a useless farce, through no fault of the majority of the delegates. When capable, reasonable and sensible people are put in charge of the panel with what's best for the game and not their own agenda at the front of their minds, then the CSM will become useful and a good tool for the playerbase to work with. \o/ EON FICTION WRITER OF THE YEAR! \o/ >>> THE LIFE OF AN OUTLAW <<<
Ruze Amarr No Applicable Corporation	Posted - 2008.09.13 17:15:00 - [29] Originally by: Verone Edited by: Verone on 13/09/2008 17:05:32 I have high hopes for the next term of office for the CSM. It's going to be interesting to see who runs for position within it. Sadly, the first iteration has been a useless farce, through no fault of the majority of the delegates. When capable, reasonable and sensible people are put in charge of the panel with what's best for the game and not their own agenda at the front of their minds, then the CSM will become useful and a good tool for the playerbase to work with. Any organization of power, particularly one relying on democratic processes, will draw those who wish to use the power and authority for their own ends. Only way to prevent that, is to take away the effectiveness of the organization to a point where even those of corruption don't wish to use it, and at such a stage, is it really needed then? As long as there's a CSM, there will be people who want to be in charge and will want to use the organization for their own agendas. Even those with good intentions can lead people to hateful things. Or do we really all believe that **** was 'evil incarnate' and didn't have legitimate reasons and good intentions in mind when he did what he did? It's not the really evil people who you need to worry about. It's the people who are convinced they are good and 'right'. Originally by:** CCP Greyscale consciously deciding not to join a corp is pretty much deciding that you don't want to have fun
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.09.13 19:34:00 - [30] Originally by: MotherMoon and once it ends I'll be running! and not as mothermoon but an alt so my name/my history/and my forum posting have nothing to do with it. I'll be running as me, in real life as a 3d artist and a level designer GROAN SKUNK

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