..looks amazing! I think it looks really great. Minmatar ships look ugly as hell in general. Hope all Minnie ships gets the same looks as the reaper.

So thats that. So many people emoraging over it, I thought I'd give some feedback on the positive side. I'm sure many people agree with me, but as we all know, only angry people post on forums.

inb4 shitstorm.

So we've identified the problem that people who like the new Minmatar designs like them because they aren't truly Minmatar designs.

Well, that's nice.

While I agree with you in principle, if more people do like them than not (dont think so but hey) I m ure CCP will have no issues to make a backstory of Minmattar fleet getting it's hands on a couple of actual shipyards (shock-horro) and streamlining production and designs or whatnot...

Completely agree with you, new Minmatar ships actually look good (Reaper, Tornado). Wish they will rework ugliest ones too: Tempest, Typhoon, Mammonth, Rupture, Stabber etc.

... They can't really be made out of rust and duct tape, as much as people would like to think that. ...

I don't like the new reaper model.

Old one had flavor.

What do you mean by that? The new model has flavor too.
It still has pixel-thin solar panels or whatever those are, and the dark industrial look, only it looks cooler (imo)

These are spaceships. They are constructed in high-tech factories and designed by reasonably well-educated engineers presumably. Even the reaper is capable of t Minmatar ships may be a bit more thrown together/rustic but these principles still hold. Having them look like they were thrown together by a toddler with KNex isn't them having flavor, it's dum

Either way I look at it, I usually zoomed out too far to even see the ship I fly. That is why all the model changes (scorp model, noob frigs) are really of no use to me. I would rather have ccp working on fixing problems or writing expansions that don't need 3 or 4 patches as soon as the expansion is rolled out. Instead ccp is fixing things that are not broken, that just silliness to me. Just my personal opinions, I really do not desire nor intend to change anyone's opinion on the subject.

Also, I don't know how some people play the game really far zoomed out. I always like to have my ship close enough to see. I just couldn't play the game when everything is just a coloured square. I certainly didn't save up the cash for my Armageddon, just to give my green square a few more low slots.

The new reaper really blows. It's totally not Minmatar. Way too smooth. I think Minmatar ships are by far the best looking ships in the game. They also seem to have a very Star Wars motif. Wires and panels hanging out, rough edges, hard lines, that kind of thing. The new reaper looks like a cracked out electric shaver, not very Minmatar.

The ships need to look hard, and sharp. Not glossy and smooth. They need to look hacked together, like the previous 10 pilots each re-routed all of the wiring towards some mysterious purpose, and now who knows how it really works but it sure as **** does.

Kinda like an old beat up car that no one can start but its owner. You have to kick it in just the right place before the sparks will fire.

Shouldn't some Minmatar ships start to look.. you know.. NEW?

I prefer more tactical view, that is why I zoom out. If my view is right on top of my ship, I can not see where groups of rats are or which group of rats is which, Overview is nice, but the best it gives me is the distances to each rat, if you warp in and you are surrounded by several groups of rats, you will want to zoom out to see the overall picture.

Of course if you get stuck on the asteroid or structure, you will want to zoom in to untangle your ship from the obstacle.

I like it too..

What I don't get is why people have to have racial similarity in ship designs.... because the model T Ford looks just like a Ford Mondeo doesn't it.

Old ships were designed quickly to perform the job, now the Minmatar have had a little time to actually polish the edges off. Nothing wrong with that at all. What would be cool though is that the models were all still in game so new ones were built with new model, old ones left with old. Too much to ask I know but still.....