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Benilopax
Gallente
Pulsar Combat Supplies
Alternative Realities
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Posted - 2008.09.12 11:41:00 -
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After the fire on a train, 7 miles from Calais side of tunnel, burnt for about a day the fire crews who tackled the blaze reported a temperature of 1000 degrees C at its height.
The tunnel has now cooled to 800 degrees but it will take a while for it to return to normal and months before that tunnel reopens. The trains will be using a single tunnel for the foreseeable future.
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Reven Cordelle
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.09.12 11:52:00 -
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Thats a bit warm that.
I'm surprised the tunnel didn't collapse.
Cheers for the news update 'pax.
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Cmdr Sy
Appetite 4 Destruction
The Firm.
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Posted - 2008.09.12 11:57:00 -
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I would expect it to hold up up well; tunnel fires are common, ventilation can be ideal, so they need to be built like a kiln.
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Nomakai Delateriel
Amarr
Shadow Company
G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2008.09.12 12:01:00 -
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Yeah. Nobody likes a tunnelfire, especially those that have to put it out.
Both because it can be impossible to ventilate the area but also because in order to reach the core you might have to go through kilometers of hazardous environment (heat, poisonous air etc) which puts a lot of limitations on how you can actually fight the fire (or other form of accident. A chemical spill might be just as bad, or even worse).
Ever tried assembling firefighting gear when you can't see anything and you're wearing full protective gear?
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Reven Cordelle
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.09.12 12:05:00 -
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 Originally by: Nomakai Delateriel
Yeah. Nobody likes a tunnelfire, especially those that have to put it out.
Both because it can be impossible to ventilate the area but also because in order to reach the core you might have to go through kilometers of hazardous environment (heat, poisonous air etc) which puts a lot of limitations on how you can actually fight the fire (or other form of accident. A chemical spill might be just as bad, or even worse).
Ever tried assembling firefighting gear when you can't see anything and you're wearing full protective gear?
Sounds like a job for the "HEV Mark Four. Protective. System. For use in Hazardous. Environment. Situations."
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Nomakai Delateriel
Amarr
Shadow Company
G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2008.09.12 12:22:00 -
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Originally by: Reven Cordelle
Sounds like a job for the "HEV Mark Four. Protective. System. For use in Hazardous. Environment. Situations."
No. Not really. The HEV looks cool, but the oxygen exchange system is suboptimal for firefighting, creating a lot of dead space which reduces your oxygen intake. Not the greatest consideration in a Lab (where a clear vision and reducing the feeling of claustrophobia is a bit more important), but if you're going to do tough work in a hot environment you really need to max it out.
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Reven Cordelle
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.09.12 12:25:00 -
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Originally by: Nomakai Delateriel
Originally by: Reven Cordelle
Sounds like a job for the "HEV Mark Four. Protective. System. For use in Hazardous. Environment. Situations."
No. Not really. The HEV looks cool, but the oxygen exchange system is suboptimal for firefighting, creating a lot of dead space which reduces your oxygen intake. Not the greatest consideration in a Lab (where a clear vision and reducing the feeling of claustrophobia is a bit more important), but if you're going to do tough work in a hot environment you really need to max it out.
Says you, my HEV is fully charged.
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Oli Robbo
Gallente
Galactic Defence Syndicate
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.09.12 12:51:00 -
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Originally by: Reven Cordelle
Originally by: Nomakai Delateriel
Yeah. Nobody likes a tunnelfire, especially those that have to put it out.
Both because it can be impossible to ventilate the area but also because in order to reach the core you might have to go through kilometers of hazardous environment (heat, poisonous air etc) which puts a lot of limitations on how you can actually fight the fire (or other form of accident. A chemical spill might be just as bad, or even worse).
Ever tried assembling firefighting gear when you can't see anything and you're wearing full protective gear?
Sounds like a job for the "HEV Mark Four. Protective. System. For use in Hazardous. Environment. Situations."
No they call the Thunderbirds for that. \THUNDERBIRDS FTW!
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Lori Carlyle
Aztec Industry
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Posted - 2008.09.12 13:11:00 -
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Originally by: Oli Robbo
Originally by: Reven Cordelle
Originally by: Nomakai Delateriel
Yeah. Nobody likes a tunnelfire, especially those that have to put it out.
Both because it can be impossible to ventilate the area but also because in order to reach the core you might have to go through kilometers of hazardous environment (heat, poisonous air etc) which puts a lot of limitations on how you can actually fight the fire (or other form of accident. A chemical spill might be just as bad, or even worse).
Ever tried assembling firefighting gear when you can't see anything and you're wearing full protective gear?
Sounds like a job for the "HEV Mark Four. Protective. System. For use in Hazardous. Environment. Situations."
No they call the Thunderbirds for that. \THUNDERBIRDS FTW!
A-Team > Thunderbirds,
There strings would melt.
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Deverian Tarik
Caldari
Vasari Industries
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Posted - 2008.09.12 15:36:00 -
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Originally by: Lori Carlyle
A-Team > Thunderbirds,
There strings would melt.
See, normally I'd agree, but how is blowing it up going to help the situation? 
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Nomakai Delateriel
Amarr
Shadow Company
G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2008.09.12 16:25:00 -
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Originally by: Deverian Tarik
Originally by: Lori Carlyle
A-Team > Thunderbirds,
There strings would melt.
See, normally I'd agree, but how is blowing it up going to help the situation?
Also, I don't know if the Eurotunnel has a garage/shed that they can be locked into (which conveniently enough has a welder and lots of scrap metal).
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TU144 TEPPOPNCT'CMEPTHNK
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Posted - 2008.09.16 15:41:00 -
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Edited by: TU144 TEPPOPNCT''CMEPTHNK on 16/09/2008 15:43:00
well, after stuffing up the roof of the tunnel, they will have to spend zillions of ÇÇÇ to reline the outer shell of the chunnel of the damaged section, so they can rip the junk concrete lining out and replace it and i doubt they will be able to get a loan from any banks to do the repair work.
why the hell didnt they just dump the passengers off in the emergency tunnel and drive the train out of the tunnel where it could be dealt with more efficiently by french firefighters.
Its a hell of a lot cheaper to replace the cables and signalling that might have been a bit singed in the tunnel than have to replace a 500m length of tunnel that has been reduced to a consistency of brittle limestone.
Would it not be cheaper to fit to the tunnel every 2-5km a firefighting section so that if a fire did occur, the train can continue to the fire station and either off-load the passengers and effect measures to smother the fire and affected carrages so that it could continue on to the next one and make it out of the tunnel without causing damage that will cause the tunnel to be closed for one or more years.
A clean up train could later clean the tunnel walls and collect any debris/fire supresent that remained in the tunnel.
sorry... i'll take the ferry,, i like force 8-9 gales, more entertaining whatching everyone stagger about looking ill 
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