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Waylan Yutani
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Posted - 2008.09.13 00:49:00 -
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being a solo pirate (from time to time), i have come to realize it¦s pretty much dead. And i think its a shame.
I¦d like to see low sec being more lucretive as it is now. why would peeps travel from dodi or auvergne to low sec for rattting when they can make 10-20 times more in the comfort of hi-sec ? why should miners mine in low sec, when miners can switch on their miner bots before going to work or bed ?
would be awesome if piracy could be implemented in this game.. at least for someone soloing
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My'kel An'jelo
Amarr Synthetic Frontiers
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Posted - 2008.09.13 01:12:00 -
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Go to a FW region.
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Cpt Branko
Surge.
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Posted - 2008.09.13 01:36:00 -
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Decrease low-sec population. Please. It's starting to look like 0.0 without bubbles for a pirate really.
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techzer0
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.09.13 03:15:00 -
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I do ok solo, at least until they nerf my nano-tardness  ------------
Originally by: Nexus Kinnon I could outgay you even without my pink tutu. >.>
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adriaans
Amarr Ankaa.
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Posted - 2008.09.13 11:12:00 -
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uhm...last i checked there was more people in low sec than i can shoot alone -sig-
Support the introduction of Blaze M crystals for Amarr!
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adriaans
Amarr Ankaa.
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Posted - 2008.09.13 11:13:00 -
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Edited by: adriaans on 13/09/2008 11:13:14 internal error...yeah right... -sig-
Support the introduction of Blaze M crystals for Amarr!
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Redback911
Malevolent Intentions
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Posted - 2008.09.13 11:18:00 -
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Its a MMORPG.
Not a solo game with super-realistic AI
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Tashajan
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Posted - 2008.09.13 11:27:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Branko Decrease low-sec population. Please. It's starting to look like 0.0 without bubbles for a pirate really.
this ^^
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Scrutt5
Snuff inc
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Posted - 2008.09.13 11:36:00 -
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Check the map and killboards, your way off the mark.
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Mynxee
Hellcats Doom Armada
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Posted - 2008.09.13 11:50:00 -
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Low sec is *quite* lucrative. You're just not doing it right.
Life in Low Sec | Hellcats
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Kasade
Krieger Allianz NIght's Dawn
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Posted - 2008.09.13 13:59:00 -
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Originally by: My'kel An'jelo Go to a FW region.
lol you will only get ganked buy 40 man FW gangs
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Dariah Stardweller
Insidious Industries
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Posted - 2008.09.13 14:51:00 -
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Originally by: Waylan Yutani
why should miners mine in low sec, when miners can switch on their miner bots before going to work or bed ?
Ey?
Miners don't mine in lowsec cause the ores aren't good enough to validate the risk we're taking. Don't know the exact numbers at the moment but Jaspet (lowsec ore) was just recently the LEAST valuable ore of all per cubic meter.....
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Terra Mikael
The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2008.09.13 14:54:00 -
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Originally by: My'kel An'jelo Go to a FW region.
this.
seriously, the black rise is crowded as hell. watch out for blobs, though, they shoot flashies.
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kessah
Suicidal Tendencies Ltd
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Posted - 2008.09.13 21:47:00 -
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FW regions are pockets of low sec where you can engage in Blob warfare. Its a certain death trap to go in as a blinky red as you'll have all sides firing upon you and since there is no loyalty really to said factions they just want to kill, you will be in quite some trouble.
Low sec outside of FW is dead, but thats something CCP will sort out in time im sure. Also another con in FW and the Black Rise in particular there is Tama through to OMS thats the death valley so to speak. Chances are if you stay away from there you wont receive too much attention.
As a pro though, im permitted to pirate (as long as im not shooting Caldari) unhindered throughout the area, also there are no outlaws here. Why would there be? 
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techzer0
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.09.13 21:59:00 -
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Thats why you go to FW regions as a Yellow, leave as a flashy red...
They never see it coming  ------------
Originally by: Nexus Kinnon I could outgay you even without my pink tutu. >.>
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MirrorGod
Heretic Militia
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Posted - 2008.09.13 22:01:00 -
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1) Join FW 2) solo/pirate rookies of 2-3 other factions + everything else 3) ??? 4) Profit
tbh i wanna see FW in all low-sec, could potentially spread out factions </butthurt cuz kor-azor is empty>
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Cpt Branko
Surge.
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Posted - 2008.09.13 22:02:00 -
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Originally by: kessah Tama through to OMS thats the death valley so to speak.
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KeLLaX
HUNLAR the Almighty Scalar Federation
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Posted - 2008.09.13 22:05:00 -
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Originally by: techzer0 Thats why you go to FW regions as a Yellow, leave as a flashy red...
They never see it coming 
true but gotta be careful, with the new patch, u can leave as flashy red and stay like that :)
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Corstaad
Minmatar Vardr ok Lidskjalv Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2008.09.13 23:45:00 -
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I used FW for two days to shot minny counterparts, was freaking fun. Anyways my standing dropped craze amounts for ship kills -2% and poding was -12.5%. I can still join once more on minny side and do this but then I'll have to switch to gallente. Anyways I'm not so sure I really want to screw my standing yet.
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Xzar Fyrarr
Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2008.09.14 01:40:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Branko Decrease low-sec population. Please. It's starting to look like 0.0 without bubbles for a pirate really.
-Truth I don't normally participate in militia blobs but
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Reptar Dragon
THE FINAL STAND
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Posted - 2008.09.14 06:27:00 -
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you've obviously never been to hagilur.
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Mankirks Wife
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Posted - 2008.09.14 07:16:00 -
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Originally by: Dariah Stardweller
Originally by: Waylan Yutani
why should miners mine in low sec, when miners can switch on their miner bots before going to work or bed ?
Ey?
Miners don't mine in lowsec cause the ores aren't good enough to validate the risk we're taking. Don't know the exact numbers at the moment but Jaspet (lowsec ore) was just recently the LEAST valuable ore of all per cubic meter.....
No. You heard the man - all miners are bots. YARR!  ---
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Corstaad
Minmatar Vardr ok Lidskjalv Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2008.09.14 07:23:00 -
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Miners are either bots, alts, or lame.
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Waylan Yutani
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Posted - 2008.09.14 09:56:00 -
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well... last night i did 25 low sec jumps. I met two roaming gangs. one of the gangs (a ten man newbie gang) stayed in local, so i placed myself at belt one in my ranis and waited them for them to scan me out, they didnt. switched to a deimos, but stayed clear of the fw areas since caldari was moving around with a 50+ gang. scanned all systems from my ss near clusters of asteroid fields, but only the usual pos-ships showed up and the occasional nano-ship to slow to cloak up
seems like the only fights im getting is 1v1. scanning belts is getting me nowhere fast
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Kane Rizzel
NovaKane Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.09.14 10:49:00 -
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Originally by: Waylan Yutani well... last night i did 25 low sec jumps. I met two roaming gangs. one of the gangs (a ten man newbie gang) stayed in local, so i placed myself at belt one in my ranis and waited them for them to scan me out, they didnt. switched to a deimos, but stayed clear of the fw areas since caldari was moving around with a 50+ gang. scanned all systems from my ss near clusters of asteroid fields, but only the usual pos-ships showed up and the occasional nano-ship to slow to cloak up
seems like the only fights im getting is 1v1. scanning belts is getting me nowhere fast
If you want to be ganking newbies then stop using tech2 ships, it's like holy water to a vampire. Newbies hit that scanner and go "OH NOES, HE HAS THE TECH TOOOES" and they won't go near you, now if you were in something innocuous like say a Incursus or Thorax then they may have fancied their chances.
Like so many have said before me in threads just like this one, Solo Piracy isn't dead, Piracy isn't dead, you just have to be a lot smarter. Nothing in life is easy.
Now either you adapt, or get the **** out of lowsec you noob 
A Pirates Perspective
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Concorduck
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.09.14 11:10:00 -
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make great trade hubs lowsec. that will fix either the lucrative part of lowsec or the saturday jita lag threads -----------------------------------------
Originally by: Crumplecorn Contact the CSM about it, voting themselves into disbandment wouldn't be pushing the boundaries of absurdity for them.
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Waylan Yutani
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Posted - 2008.09.14 19:24:00 -
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Originally by: Kane Rizzel Like so many have said before me in threads just like this one, Solo Piracy isn't dead, Piracy isn't dead, you just have to be a lot smarter. Nothing in life is easy.
Now either you adapt, or get the **** out of lowsec you noob 
ye, better use my hic so i can be just as leet as you 
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Corstaad
Minmatar Vardr ok Lidskjalv Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2008.09.15 04:44:00 -
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You should its a good low sec ship.
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Dark Big
the united
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Posted - 2008.09.21 13:59:00 -
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Originally by: Concorduck make great trade hubs lowsec. that will fix either the lucrative part of lowsec or the saturday jita lag threads
I like that! wish ccp would do that lol.
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Zen Guerrilla
Minmatar Mindfunk
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Posted - 2008.09.21 15:01:00 -
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Once you start using the map and killboards, you will get to the lowsec regions where you will find fights. Just takes some time to figure it all out.
And choose the right ship, T2 will scare pretty much every new pirate away, frigs will leave you will nearly no targets to attack. ----------------------------- Pew pew!
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Rudy Metallo
The Bastards
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Posted - 2008.09.21 15:17:00 -
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Originally by: Kane Rizzel
Originally by: Waylan Yutani well... last night i did 25 low sec jumps. I met two roaming gangs. one of the gangs (a ten man newbie gang) stayed in local, so i placed myself at belt one in my ranis and waited them for them to scan me out, they didnt. switched to a deimos, but stayed clear of the fw areas since caldari was moving around with a 50+ gang. scanned all systems from my ss near clusters of asteroid fields, but only the usual pos-ships showed up and the occasional nano-ship to slow to cloak up
seems like the only fights im getting is 1v1. scanning belts is getting me nowhere fast
If you want to be ganking newbies then stop using tech2 ships, it's like holy water to a vampire. Newbies hit that scanner and go "OH NOES, HE HAS THE TECH TOOOES" and they won't go near you, now if you were in something innocuous like say a Incursus or Thorax then they may have fancied their chances.
Like so many have said before me in threads just like this one, Solo Piracy isn't dead, Piracy isn't dead, you just have to be a lot smarter. Nothing in life is easy.
Now either you adapt, or get the **** out of lowsec you noob 
WTF HAX. I want my toes to be tech --
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Xasz
AnTi.
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Posted - 2008.09.22 00:21:00 -
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Originally by: Rudy Metallo
Originally by: Kane Rizzel
Originally by: Waylan Yutani well... last night i did 25 low sec jumps. I met two roaming gangs. one of the gangs (a ten man newbie gang) stayed in local, so i placed myself at belt one in my ranis and waited them for them to scan me out, they didnt. switched to a deimos, but stayed clear of the fw areas since caldari was moving around with a 50+ gang. scanned all systems from my ss near clusters of asteroid fields, but only the usual pos-ships showed up and the occasional nano-ship to slow to cloak up
seems like the only fights im getting is 1v1. scanning belts is getting me nowhere fast
If you want to be ganking newbies then stop using tech2 ships, it's like holy water to a vampire. Newbies hit that scanner and go "OH NOES, HE HAS THE TECH TOOOES" and they won't go near you, now if you were in something innocuous like say a Incursus or Thorax then they may have fancied their chances.
Like so many have said before me in threads just like this one, Solo Piracy isn't dead, Piracy isn't dead, you just have to be a lot smarter. Nothing in life is easy.
Now either you adapt, or get the **** out of lowsec you noob 
WTF HAX. I want my toes to be tech
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Redback911
Malevolent Intentions
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Posted - 2008.09.22 00:47:00 -
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FW Piracy is fun.
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Nuts Nougat
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2008.09.22 09:22:00 -
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Originally by: Kane Rizzel
Originally by: Waylan Yutani well... last night i did 25 low sec jumps. I met two roaming gangs. one of the gangs (a ten man newbie gang) stayed in local, so i placed myself at belt one in my ranis and waited them for them to scan me out, they didnt. switched to a deimos, but stayed clear of the fw areas since caldari was moving around with a 50+ gang. scanned all systems from my ss near clusters of asteroid fields, but only the usual pos-ships showed up and the occasional nano-ship to slow to cloak up
seems like the only fights im getting is 1v1. scanning belts is getting me nowhere fast
If you want to be ganking newbies then stop using tech2 ships, it's like holy water to a vampire. Newbies hit that scanner and go "OH NOES, HE HAS THE TECH TOOOES" and they won't go near you, now if you were in something innocuous like say a Incursus or Thorax then they may have fancied their chances.
Like so many have said before me in threads just like this one, Solo Piracy isn't dead, Piracy isn't dead, you just have to be a lot smarter. Nothing in life is easy.
Now either you adapt, or get the **** out of lowsec you noob 
Quoting this for truth. Also being in a faction ship will increase your number of kills by a hundredfold.
Before i lost my fleet stabber (jump into lagged highsec ftw) i would roam about with it in black rise. It aligned fast enough not to be caught by the random FW blob camping a gate, it looked juicy enough on scanner to attract a bunch of people.
One day i roamed placid and warped to a planet that had a brutix on scan. Sure enough he was there but 100km off. I burn towards him, set orbit to 15km and proceed to open fire while he stays there waiting for me to tackle him. Would've probably killed him alone thanks to shit blaster range, but alas my gang came in anyway...
10 seconds after the brutix dies a dominix warps in at 0. Same story, we're 100km away but he just waits there to get tackled.
A tempest shows up on scan while the dominix is dying. Sure enough a minute or 2 after domi goes down the tempest warps in on top of us.
We had a gang of about 10, including i think 2 blackbirds. Both dominix and tempest had to have scanned us down to the planet, why else would they bother warping there...
My suspicion is this was all due to the faction juiciness in the gang. That and people underestimate t1 cruisers, which most of our gang was composed of.
So remember kids, always fly faction ships. It makes the game a whole lot more fun and exciting.  ---
Originally by: CCP Mitnal My daddy told me to lock this thread.
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Cpt Branko
Surge.
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Posted - 2008.09.22 09:29:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Branko on 22/09/2008 09:32:49 Edited by: Cpt Branko on 22/09/2008 09:29:34
Originally by: Kane Rizzel
If you want to be ganking newbies then stop using tech2 ships, it's like holy water to a vampire. Newbies hit that scanner and go "OH NOES, HE HAS THE TECH TOOOES" and they won't go near you, now if you were in something innocuous like say a Incursus or Thorax then they may have fancied their chances.
This. If you go around with a Diemost, newbies will avoid you because you're in a T2 ship, and experienced pilots will pick fights with you because you're in a suicide oriented T2 ship 
It's putting yourself in a lose/lose situation the moment you undock it solo.
Originally by: Nuts Nougat
So remember kids, always fly faction ships. It makes the game a whole lot more fun and exciting. 
I used to probe people out in my nano-Cynabal very effectively... even without the probing bonuses, people would stick around for ages trying to figure out where that damn faction cruiser was 
Being your own bait and prober ftw. Naturally, still needed someone to actually help you get kills, but oh well ;)
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Rashmika Clavain
Gallente Revelation Space
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Posted - 2008.09.22 09:40:00 -
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Okay I feel the need to address a couple of flaws in your thinking. Firstly:
Originally by: Waylan Yutani
I¦d like to see low sec being more lucretive as it is now. why would peeps travel from dodi or auvergne to low sec for rattting when they can make 10-20 times more in the comfort of hi-sec ? why should miners mine in low sec, when miners can switch on their miner bots before going to work or bed ?
It's been said before and no doubt it'll be said again. You can make low sec as profitable as you like, but it'll never outweigh the loss of a mission ship lost to piwats fitted for PVP. If you move level 4's to low sec, people will move to level 3 agents and new hubs will be born. Move the level 3's? CCP will lose a huge chunk of its player base.
Originally by: Waylan Yutani
would be awesome if piracy could be implemented in this game.. at least for someone soloing
With al ldue respect, it all comes across as you want to move the easy pickings of mission runners and miners into low sec for your own enjoyment and their loss.
That's fine for you, yes. So what exactly is in it for them? With the current rewards, game mechanics and ease of probing out someone tanking a level 4 mission, Nothing. Unless you massively increase low sec rewards, people won't go there.
That said, even if you massively increase low sec rewards, people aren't going to go there beacsue...
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Cpt Branko
Surge.
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Posted - 2008.09.22 09:50:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Branko on 22/09/2008 09:50:53
Originally by: Rashmika Clavain lost to piwats fitted for PVP.
Pirates. NOT "piwats". PIRATES.
That said, your argument is fail, because: (a) A portion of the people will always move to low-sec if there's suddenly more money there, given it's fairly easy to be safe as long as the rewards outdo the 'safespot -> dock up till danger passes' losses and the heightened rewards compensate the fact you can't really use a pimped ship which you could in high-sec. Naturally, some players will always prefer total safety, but we have enough people who will take significantly more ISK for somewhat more risk (and no alliance BS / space defence issues).
(b) You use the word "piwats", making your argument auto-fail.
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Rashmika Clavain
Gallente Revelation Space
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Posted - 2008.09.22 10:01:00 -
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Well at ;east I offered a reasonable arguement as opposed to juvenile "fail" comments  Removed. Please keep your EVE signature related to your EVE persona and not that of a real life politician. Navigator |

Cpt Branko
Surge.
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Posted - 2008.09.22 10:20:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Branko on 22/09/2008 10:21:06
Originally by: Rashmika Clavain Edited by: Rashmika Clavain on 22/09/2008 10:08:16 Well at least I offered a reasonable arguement as opposed to juvenile "fail" comments 
Reasonable, yes, but very often refuted.
The argument relies on the premise that boosting rewards is worthless unless it brings all the mission runners to low-sec (which it can't) - making it a trivial matter to dismiss boosting low-sec rewards as a solution. However, if we consider the purpose of boosting low-sec rewards to give people (generally, the not so risk averse people) a incentive to make ISK in low-sec, rather then move mission runners (implicitly, this means all mission runners) to low-sec), then it is a perfectly valid solution.
Naturally, if you view low-sec boosting in light of a impossible desired outcome, then it's pointless.
People against low-sec boosts generally claim that they're worthless 'because they won't bring mission runners to low-sec', where it's implied that the goal is bringing mission runners to low-sec (where the implication is, all or majority of mission runners). This is a faulty argument because it's based on a mis-constructed end objective.
After someone uses a word such as "piwate" in a discussion, the door to argumentation using phrases like 'epic fail' and shitpoasting in general is totally warranted.
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