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FireT	Posted - 2008.09.14 17:20:00 - [1] I am a hardcore drone pilot. Well as far as combat drones are concerned. But I am tempted to go into the electronic warfare drones too. So I am curious ho effective they are when comparing them to actual modules on your ships? For example, how are the target painter drones and ECM ? ECCM drones different from the modules? Better or worse? Or what would happen if one stacks 5 target paining drones, would that equate to a target painting module? Thanks in advance for any information. Since I can't make heads or tails of this.
AstroPhobic Minmatar	Posted - 2008.09.14 17:29:00 - [2] The general consensus is "ECM or go home". I hear some people praise web and TP drones, but personally I think they're a bit of a waste. ECM drones are indeed nasty, and a must have for any solo cruiser/bc hull.
kor anon Amarr Sons Of The Fallen BROTHERS GRIM.	Posted - 2008.09.14 18:55:00 - [3] started using them today, not tested them fully but they seem to be quite nifty
Etho Demerzel Gallente Holy Clan of the Cone	Posted - 2008.09.14 19:02:00 - [4] Originally by: AstroPhobic The general consensus is "ECM or go home". I hear some people praise web and TP drones, but personally I think they're a bit of a waste. ECM drones are indeed nasty, and a must have for any solo cruiser/bc hull. If web modules get nerfed in the nan-patch, web drones won't be so bad, really. But generally you are right, stacking penalities makes almost all EW drones quite useless. Especially sensor dampening and tracking disruptor ones. ===== "If a member of the EVE community finds he or she cannot accept our current level of transparency, we bid you good luck in finding a company that meets your needs." - CCP kieron...
Lady Destruction Club Bear	Posted - 2008.09.14 19:27:00 - [5] Let me tell you my experience with ecm drones: when they r used against me they jam me more than 70% of the fight, when i use them against some1 else, they jam less than 30% of the fight :(. I have bad luck with ecm drones, and ecm in general, got jammed twice by 5 small ecm drones while having 2 ECCM active on a Dominix(it was a specific setup for a single purpose, don't think i have 2 eccm on my domi's at all times :))!!!
ElCoCo KIA Corp KIA Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.14 19:27:00 - [6] Edited by: ElCoCo on 14/09/2008 19:28:24 Originally by: Etho Demerzel If web modules get nerfed in the nan-patch, web drones won't be so bad, really. You're assuming that they'll keep their 30% effectiveness though. ninjaedit: Generaly they're pretty good, as long as your opponent forgets that they have veeeery low hp Boink!
Chienka Victory Not Vengeance	Posted - 2008.09.14 22:38:00 - [7] Anyone know if CCP have patched the ECM drone exploit yet?
Corstaad Minmatar Vardr ok Lidskjalv Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.09.14 22:54:00 - [8] Yes you can't spam return and attack to get them to perma jam.
Lilith Velkor Minmatar DEATH'S LEGION	Posted - 2008.09.14 23:55:00 - [9] Originally by: Corstaad Yes you can't spam return and attack to get them to perma jam. Nice. What about drones that got a jam cycle in and return to bay within the cycle, will the jam cycle abort?
The Tzar Malicious Intentions Un-Natural Selection	Posted - 2008.09.15 00:06:00 - [10] Vespa EC-600's (medium ECM drones) are brilliant. I would say unless your flying something like a curse or another ship that can't really field heavy drones or needs drone damage go for ECM drones every time. __________________________________________ 'Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear intelligent until they speak' __________________________________________
Joss Sparq Caldari ANZAC ALLIANCE Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.15 00:22:00 - [11] Originally by: Chienka Anyone know if CCP have patched the ECM drone exploit yet? The ... what?
Verton	Posted - 2008.09.15 00:24:00 - [12] In what little PvP I get to do these days (just became a triplet dady!), I have found that the ECM drones are very effective. I fly Amarr and Amarr ships do not have the mids that Caldari ships have, so the ECM drones are very useful. I'm sure I've suprised more that a few pilots when an Amarr ship pops out ECM drones. /V/
Cpt Branko Surge.	Posted - 2008.09.15 01:28:00 - [13] I just use damage drones and ECCM, personally. Gives all the ECM drone users a nasty shock Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Deschenus Maximus Amarr Most Wanted INC G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.09.15 03:44:00 - [14] I use ECM drones as a "get out of jail free" card when a fight goes bad, but I usually don't use them DURING the fight itself.
Etho Demerzel Gallente Holy Clan of the Cone	Posted - 2008.09.15 05:44:00 - [15] Originally by: ElCoCo Edited by: ElCoCo on 14/09/2008 19:28:24 Originally by: Etho Demerzel If web modules get nerfed in the nan-patch, web drones won't be so bad, really. You're assuming that they'll keep their 30% effectiveness though. ninjaedit: Generaly they're pretty good, as long as your opponent forgets that they have veeeery low hp Yes, I am. Considering they are borderline useful now it wouldn't make sense to nerf them. I expect them to remain the same, like ECM drones when ECM modules's strengh was halved. ===== "If a member of the EVE community finds he or she cannot accept our current level of transparency, we bid you good luck in finding a company that meets your needs." - CCP kieron...
Jonna Andromedae	Posted - 2008.09.15 10:45:00 - [16] Originally by: Corstaad Yes you can't spam return and attack to get them to perma jam. It's all clear now for me...
Rawr Cristina Caldari Omerta Syndicate	Posted - 2008.09.15 10:51:00 - [17] Originally by: Lilith Velkor Originally by: Corstaad Yes you can't spam return and attack to get them to perma jam. Nice. What about drones that got a jam cycle in and return to bay within the cycle, will the jam cycle abort? I'm more keen to know whether they'll start a new cycle as soon as they're re-deployed.... Deploy - Attack If jam, leave them there If no jam, scoop and redeploy repeat. - Infectious -
Warrio Southern Cross Incorporated Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.15 12:52:00 - [18] Originally by: Rawr Cristina Originally by: Lilith Velkor Originally by: Corstaad Yes you can't spam return and attack to get them to perma jam. Nice. What about drones that got a jam cycle in and return to bay within the cycle, will the jam cycle abort? I'm more keen to know whether they'll start a new cycle as soon as they're re-deployed.... Deploy - Attack If jam, leave them there If no jam, scoop and redeploy repeat. There is a foolproof way to test your theory, it involves an internet connection, an Eve client, a computer and a corpmate/alt. I expect a report on my desk by morning. Sig removed due to being too freaking awsome. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Deckard Cain
Rawr Cristina Caldari Omerta Syndicate	Posted - 2008.09.15 13:32:00 - [19] Originally by: Warrio There is a foolproof way to test your theory, it involves an internet connection, an Eve client, a computer and a corpmate/alt. I expect a report on my desk by morning. Oh but this involves something called 'Effort' which for someone as lazy as myself is asking too much. Besides, why go through all that trouble testing when someone here may know the answer anyway? - Infectious -
Sirius Problem Darkness Inc.	Posted - 2008.09.15 13:47:00 - [20] Edited by: Sirius Problem on 15/09/2008 13:47:22 Originally by: Verton In what little PvP I get to do these days (just became a triplet dady!) Congratulations mate! . Seriously though, can I have your stuff? If these are your first kids, you are in for an extreme shock (x3) about how little free time (zero) that you will have to play Eve. ---- Train more. Whine less.
Sidus Isaacs	Posted - 2008.09.15 14:17:00 - [21] Originally by: Jonna Andromedae Originally by: Corstaad Yes you can't spam return and attack to get them to perma jam. It's all clear now for me... Surley thats an exploit?

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