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Kazuo Karasuma
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Posted - 2008.09.14 18:55:00 -
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I want devs to nerf mining, mission running and concord and buff pirating. make all weapons more effective and lose some shield and armor resistances. There is a huge inflation going on, ships need to be blown up. remove T1 item drops from missions. make wrecks scannable and bring in the salvage drones, the wrecks must cause some of the lag we have. Make medium and large tracktorbeams available, make tractorbeams to be able tractor drones, other peoples cans, ships, etc. make carebear pvp possible by upgrading the stripminers to be able mine ships. Bring in the capital mining beams.
I don't believe anything useful will come out this but I thought I'd just wiggle my sausage at you other forum warriors.
this all boils down to "I want see more player ships blown up" and wail your buff stick more than nerf stick 
and I want people to ask themselves "Is it really a good idea to fit miner I and a small shield booster I to a dread?"
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Shadowsword
COLSUP
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.09.14 18:56:00 -
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Huge inflation? Prove it.
I don't see frigs on market at 1M or haulers at 5M.
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Tippia
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.09.14 19:00:00 -
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 Originally by: Kazuo Karasuma
There is a huge inflation going on, ships need to be blown up.
Is there? Prices seem to be going down.
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Ruze
Amarr
No Applicable Corporation
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Posted - 2008.09.14 19:00:00 -
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Originally by: Shadowsword
Huge inflation? Prove it.
I don't see frigs on market at 1M or haulers at 5M.
I believe the op mixed up his words. I think he meant 'deflation.'
See, here in the States, the word 'inflation' can basically be used by media, politicians and every other ignorant sob (including myself) whenever there's something wrong with the economy.
Cost too much? Inflation! Can't sell your product because others can provide it cheaper? Inflation!
Originally by: CCP Greyscale
consciously deciding not to join a corp is pretty much deciding that you don't want to have fun
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Ruze
Amarr
No Applicable Corporation
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Posted - 2008.09.14 19:01:00 -
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Unless he wasn't talking about cost inflation, but possession inflation. I'd agree that the average possessions of the playerbase has gone up, yeah.
Originally by: CCP Greyscale
consciously deciding not to join a corp is pretty much deciding that you don't want to have fun
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Kazuo Karasuma
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Posted - 2008.09.14 19:06:00 -
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yes I did mean deflation, sorry about that. I was too busy whirling my e-python to notice.
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goodby4u
Valor Inc.
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Posted - 2008.09.14 19:15:00 -
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On the deflation front im not sure about modules but it seems most ships(bar t2)cost about the same, I mean tier 2 battleships went down in price due to tier 3 battleships... Likewise with tier 1 bcs.
Just keep in mind its not about how many people can build what, its also about ccp nerfing/buffing and introducing new ships.
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Kazuo Karasuma
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Posted - 2008.09.14 19:29:00 -
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ships usually have quite small proffit margins but for example, implants and minerals prices have dropped.
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Johann Callasan
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Posted - 2008.09.14 19:41:00 -
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Originally by: Kazuo Karasuma
ships usually have quite small proffit margins but for example, implants and minerals prices have dropped.
Tell that to those who make smartbombs :)
medium ones sell for 105-120K in Caldari regions, and cost 189L to make.
Sum total: anyone who makes 'em in Caldari space is taking a major loss :(
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Kazuo Karasuma
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Posted - 2008.09.14 20:09:00 -
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Originally by: Johann Callasan
Originally by: Kazuo Karasuma
ships usually have quite small proffit margins but for example, implants and minerals prices have dropped.
Tell that to those who make smartbombs :)
medium ones sell for 105-120K in Caldari regions, and cost 189L to make.
Sum total: anyone who makes 'em in Caldari space is taking a major loss :(
damn I need to go buy some smartbombs for my endless maw that eats items and spews minerals
I love that I can take advantage of the weak, (especially) stupid and lazy in eve.
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Pavlinka
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.09.14 20:17:00 -
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more ships need to be blown up? come on ...
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Kazuo Karasuma
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Posted - 2008.09.14 20:22:00 -
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Originally by: Pavlinka
more ships need to be blown up? come on ...
but I usually salvage what I or someone else blew up, now if that is not recycling then what is (hence the salvage drones need to be introduced)
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.09.14 20:31:00 -
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Originally by: Shadowsword
Huge inflation? Prove it.
I don't see frigs on market at 1M or haulers at 5M.
the isk supply is increasing at a huge rate, as some would argue is shown by the increase in gtc prices.
the reason this hasn't shown up in ships and modules is there is an even greater rate of inflation in material supplies/wealth.
and a bunch of people are arguing this is directly because of level 4 mission runners/drone regions/insurance.
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masternerdguy
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Posted - 2008.09.14 20:46:00 -
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prices falling is the silence before the storm soon a bantam will cost 56 mill
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Laechyd Eldgorn
Caldari
Karjala Inc.
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Posted - 2008.09.14 21:02:00 -
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Seriously you'd wish blowing up that POS, Carrier, T2 ships or whatever would actually have any effect on victims economy. Not to mention the worth of loot.
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masternerdguy
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Posted - 2008.09.14 21:03:00 -
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Originally by: Laechyd Eldgorn
Seriously you'd wish blowing up that POS, Carrier, T2 ships or whatever would actually have any effect on victims economy. Not to mention the worth of loot.
well now that med sized corps (like 30-60 people) can field multiple carriers (yes i was in one of such corps) it makes you wonder just how much isk is in eve
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Ruze
Amarr
No Applicable Corporation
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Posted - 2008.09.14 21:09:00 -
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Originally by: masternerdguy
Originally by: Laechyd Eldgorn
Seriously you'd wish blowing up that POS, Carrier, T2 ships or whatever would actually have any effect on victims economy. Not to mention the worth of loot.
well now that med sized corps (like 30-60 people) can field multiple carriers (yes i was in one of such corps) it makes you wonder just how much isk is in eve
30-60 people is a small corp. Heck, 100 man corps are VERY common.
Originally by: CCP Greyscale
consciously deciding not to join a corp is pretty much deciding that you don't want to have fun
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masternerdguy
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Posted - 2008.09.14 21:10:00 -
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Originally by: Ruze
well now 30-60 people is a small corp. Heck, 100 man corps are VERY common.
Great.....and that makes it better
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Ruze
Amarr
No Applicable Corporation
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Posted - 2008.09.14 21:14:00 -
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Originally by: masternerdguy
Originally by: Ruze
well now 30-60 people is a small corp. Heck, 100 man corps are VERY common.
Great.....and that makes it better
Not really. But it does mean that if you've to 150+ players and can field multiple carriers, it's that way for a reason.
Heck, most nulsec constellations would support one of these corps fairly well ... 
Originally by: CCP Greyscale
consciously deciding not to join a corp is pretty much deciding that you don't want to have fun
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masternerdguy
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Posted - 2008.09.14 21:16:00 -
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Originally by: Ruze
Heck, most nulsec constellations would support one of these corps fairly well ...
yeah if a 30 man corp can field multiple carriers then im sure they could overtake the armies of the space-spartans we call alliances who can field hundred and hundreds of carriers and dreads and dozens of titans in a single battle
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