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A Soporific
Caldari
Venom Pointe Industries
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Posted - 2008.09.15 04:15:00 -
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This is quite possibly the worst decision I've made in a long time, but it's a question I want answered.
Let's suppose that BOB manages to somehow triumph over all other 0.0 Alliances and defeats just about every other significant claim to non-empire space. Would that be the end of Eve? I mean, the whole conflict thing is the point of playing the game, so wouldn't fighting for the stated aim of destroying the game be ultimately counterproductive?
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Viper ShizzIe
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.09.15 04:17:00 -
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BoB have already won eve.
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touchvill
The Pikey Rebellion II
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Posted - 2008.09.15 04:18:00 -
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BoB won fifa 09 too and it's not released yet.
THEY ARE THAT DAMN GOOD!
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Master Mnemosyne
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Posted - 2008.09.15 04:32:00 -
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Edited by: Master Mnemosyne on 15/09/2008 04:32:19
If that ever happened, I'm quite sure BOB's corps would turn on each other, so they'd still have someone to kill.
Edit: Who would win? Finfleet? C/D?
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PsychoBones
R.E.C.O.N.
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Posted - 2008.09.15 04:32:00 -
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This is definitely the most 2006 thread I've read in a good while.
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ganksalot
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Posted - 2008.09.15 05:10:00 -
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Edit: Who would win? Finfleet? C/D?
finfleet is the best corp in bob so hand downs finfleet owns all other bob corps |
ishkabibble
Aztec Industry
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Posted - 2008.09.15 05:51:00 -
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BOB kinda sounds like Chuck Norris
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A Soporific
Caldari
Venom Pointe Industries
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Posted - 2008.09.15 05:56:00 -
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 Originally by: Master Mnemosyne
Edited by: Master Mnemosyne on 15/09/2008 04:32:19
If that ever happened, I'm quite sure BOB's corps would turn on each other, so they'd still have someone to kill.
Edit: Who would win? Finfleet? C/D?
I'm reasonably certain that this would be the case, but the whole idea has an oxymoronic feel to it. Fighting for something that if achieved makes the achievement meaningless.
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Uuve Savisaalo
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.09.15 06:19:00 -
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Edited by: Uuve Savisaalo on 15/09/2008 06:19:53
bob is an alliance and powerbloc iteration of those early pirate groups like taosp (beta), mo0 and evol. the objective isn't to take over territory belonging to others for some kind of material gain - its to force others out, with as much insult, injury and humiliation humanly possible.
besides the strategic role of pets, its also to indulge in the humiliation of leasing out territories to their former holders at purposely-exorbitant rent rates. A sort of proverbial force-feeding mothers their own children.
early bob vassals were treated with very little deference, with the situation changing somewhat during the period when bob's ambitions were curbed.
Anyway, at this point in time the conflict kind of keeps the game going/interesting. victory to bob is collapsing other territorial holders. victory to the said holders is survival. So far things have been interesting.
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Havohej
Minmatar
Comply Or Die
G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2008.09.15 06:21:00 -
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Originally by: Uuve Savisaalo
force-feeding mothers their own children.
Jesus, what an analogy! 
Originally by: CCP Explorer
You can still steal their stuff.
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Spinnukur
coracao ardente
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.09.15 06:22:00 -
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Originally by: Viper ****zIe
BoB have already won eve.
You have my vote to ban Viper from the game.....oh sorry thought I was in a vote to ban Viper from EVE because he is the most fail of all....
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Iasius
The Fated
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Posted - 2008.09.15 10:27:00 -
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Edited by: Iasius on 15/09/2008 10:27:35
Edited by: Iasius on 15/09/2008 10:27:26
Put it this way. Those that enjoy EVE win 
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Fred0
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.15 14:36:00 -
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They tried before and reached breakdown after what 6-7 regions or so and was chased back to less than one. I don't see it ever happening in EVE that a single entity could even hold half of the 0.0 space in EVE. The pressure against that entity would simply become too much.
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Dihania
Gallente
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2008.09.15 14:57:00 -
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Originally by: ishkabibble
BOB kinda sounds like Chuck Norris
I saw Chuck Norris running in fear.... He heard Bob was walking his dog down the streat.
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eddie valvetino
Caldari
ECP Rogues
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Posted - 2008.09.15 15:14:00 -
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it's pretty simple.
BoB did already win eve.
The latest bob attack is about proving how "great" the are... once they have finished, they will leave the space they have taken and the vacumm will be filled, this is the true single fact of eve.
Even BoB can't really "hold" the whole of 0.0, and i doubt they want to, this "raid" isn't about conquest, it's about BoB flexing their massive collective egos.
Personally I don't care.
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Doddy
Omega Fleet Enterprises
Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.09.15 19:17:00 -
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Originally by: A Soporific
Edited by: A Soporific on 15/09/2008 06:05:25
This is quite possibly the worst decision I've made in a long time, but it's a question I want answered.
Let's suppose that BOB manages to somehow triumph over all other 0.0 Alliances and defeats just about every other significant claim to non-empire space. Would that be the end of Eve? I mean, the whole conflict thing is the point of playing the game, so wouldn't fighting for the stated aim of destroying the game be ultimately counterproductive?
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I feel the need to add this. I am not asking because I believe that this will happen. I just don't understand the point of view of whatever segment of the BOB community that buys into the the stated aim of that particular organization. Working towards a goal that would make the struggle meaningless and all.
What you describe is impossible. The GBC didn't acheive it when BoB and MC had more caps and far more super-caps than anyone else, and probably a greater advantage in t2 bs fleets. At that time titans were way more powerful (remote dds) and cyno jammers hadn't really been introduced. The situation now is that everyone has big cap fleets, super caps and t2 bs fleets. The problem is as much logistics as anything else.
As for a having a goal which is unacheivble, thats the whole point. If people didn't attempt the impossible we would all still be in caves. Working to the goal of conquering all of eve allowed BoB to create the biggest empire Eve has seen, and it could do so again. It also created more conflict, created and destroyed more alliances, had bigger battles, innovated new tactics, caused game mechanics to be changed neumerous times etc etc. I doubt there are many people on either side who wish none of it ever happened.
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Purjo
Solo for UNCLE
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Posted - 2008.09.15 21:24:00 -
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I Just wounder How much Bob payed all others to let them spread like infection/ruin the north. Why not all Pirats/GOON/RA,(and others), Join and kill BoB? It looks a bit wierd that None of the other Big alliances do anything to stop them.
And is a bit sad to see Tri braging about how good they are, They is BoB pets, and didn¦t manage to take Hydra Space without BoB come and hold there hand.
  
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Kuar Z'thain
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.09.15 21:41:00 -
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Originally by: Purjo
It looks a bit wierd that None of the other Big alliances do anything to stop them.
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PsychoBones
R.E.C.O.N.
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Posted - 2008.09.15 21:49:00 -
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Originally by: Purjo
It looks a bit wierd that None of the other Big alliances do anything to stop them.
It's not weird at all. Nobody is interested in another "Great War".
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Grishnarg
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.09.15 21:55:00 -
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Say BoB manage to conquer the whole universe, then what? -was the question here. If it is to happen it wont last long anyway. This game is about war. Killing. Destruction. How long would it take for bobbits to quit BoB if BoB rule all and there is no one to fight? Not long, I think, and then the ball will start rolling again. People play to fight, not to NAP BoB and watch them rule it all.
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Galgarak
Gallente
Bad Bear Inc
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Posted - 2008.09.15 22:06:00 -
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Edited by: Galgarak on 15/09/2008 22:06:31
why,
Insert your allies alliances here to create buffer,
Head off enjoy pew pew with the safety of the early warning of said buffer,
Taking over all of 0.0 with the current player base is not possible, we know that they know that.
There will always be somone with the idea of defeating a bigger enemy, it is the interest of man, finding reasons to kill each other.
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Mistress Suffering
Einherjar Rising
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2008.09.15 22:27:00 -
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Actually there are lots and lots of people who are perfectly happy to keep playing a game where they have an overwhelming advantage.
Nothing particularly will change. Big alliances will continue to pee in the sandbox of smaller alliances. In your proposed scenario BoB just becomes the only big alliance instead of one of many. Skirmish PvPers continue to roam. Empire corps continue to wardec. Really the only meaningful change at all is the inability of other large alliances to hang out without having to sign on with BoB as the main tyrant, instead of being able to reach a critical size where they can be the local tyrant instead.
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Deva Blackfire
D00M.
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Posted - 2008.09.15 22:35:00 -
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Originally by: Mistress Suffering
Nothing particularly will change. Big alliances will continue to pee in the sandbox of smaller alliances. In your proposed scenario BoB just becomes the only big alliance instead of one of many. Skirmish PvPers continue to roam. Empire corps continue to wardec. Really the only meaningful change at all is the inability of other large alliances to hang out without having to sign on with BoB as the main tyrant, instead of being able to reach a critical size where they can be the local tyrant instead.
TBFH i prefer one tyrant that wont be able to control whole 0.0 anyways instead of two "powerblocks" that span across 99% of 0.0 and smack everything smaller that comes up.
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Red Thunder
Most Wanted INC
G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2008.09.15 22:37:00 -
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bob will take all of 0.0, then split exactly in half and fight each other just so theres some targets :D
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Iroku Mata
Minmatar
Endovelicus Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2008.09.15 23:01:00 -
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Originally by: Uuve Savisaalo
Edited by: Uuve Savisaalo on 15/09/2008 06:19:53
bob is an alliance and powerbloc iteration of those early pirate groups like taosp (beta), mo0 and evol. the objective isn't to take over territory belonging to others for some kind of material gain - its to force others out, with as much insult, injury and humiliation humanly possible.
besides the strategic role of pets, its also to indulge in the humiliation of leasing out territories to their former holders at purposely-exorbitant rent rates. A sort of proverbial force-feeding mothers their own children.
early bob vassals were treated with very little deference, with the situation changing somewhat during the period when bob's ambitions were curbed.
Anyway, at this point in time the conflict kind of keeps the game going/interesting. victory to bob is collapsing other territorial holders. victory to the said holders is survival. So far things have been interesting.
Wanna be a psycologist?
Ever thinked about having fun in game?
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Avon
Caldari
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.09.15 23:08:00 -
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Realising that BoB would certainly take over 0.0, CCP wisely added factional warfare so that we don't get bored and can subsequently take over Empire space too.
0.0 is not enough.
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Purjo
Solo for UNCLE
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Posted - 2008.09.16 01:39:00 -
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Development of game is a nice thing, and what we all want. But if it comes to the prize of one big Alliance thats do what ever they want, NO, not in my opinion anyway.
And some ppl complains that they been Blobbed buy others. Isnt it just what BoB is doing???, Blobb a sys with Cap¦s? Why not complain about that?(yes it to the braging BoB-pet¦s Tri).
As it looks now, Alliances rather withdraws and leve parts of 0.0 coz of BoB is getting allover them, It¦s sounds a bit unfair.CCP Give all same chanse.
It nice that BoB manage to hold out for this long and is a powerfactor that helping the game to develop. Thats most be the only good you can say about them????
 
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djNME
DAB
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Posted - 2008.09.16 02:07:00 -
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IF anyone "knows" BoB they understand that if anything BoB wants EVE to thrive and improve. Those that buy into all the other stuff....
I pushed my corp to fight BoB in EVE, because I hated and loathed them? Not at all, because I want to be part of the best or play agaisnt the best.
Now, recently back in game I play without any assumptions, without any baggage. I spent 2-3 years buying into X PA/FA/ASCN tears. I saw the fail infrastructure and 1 or 2 people holding it together. Now myself and my corp have fun even with pos WF gayness.
Try having fun, and forgetting the rest... don't take the online game you pay for seriously. Four years I pay for fours accounts and I understand what you have to put into this game.
If your not having fun, delete your account and just stfu and get clue.
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Athanasios Anastasiou
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.09.16 02:07:00 -
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Edited by: Athanasios Anastasiou on 16/09/2008 02:07:40
Originally by: Purjo
Development of game is a nice thing, and what we all want. But if it comes to the prize of one big Alliance thats do what ever they want, NO, not in my opinion anyway.
And some ppl complains that they been Blobbed buy others. Isnt it just what BoB is doing???, Blobb a sys with Cap¦s? Why not complain about that?(yes it to the braging BoB-pet¦s Tri).
As it looks now, Alliances rather withdraws and leve parts of 0.0 coz of BoB is getting allover them, It¦s sounds a bit unfair.CCP Give all same chanse.
It nice that BoB manage to hold out for this long and is a powerfactor that helping the game to develop. Thats most be the only good you can say about them????
NC alt posts are so fun to read these days.
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thelung187
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.09.16 02:17:00 -
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Let's suppose that BOB manages to somehow triumph over all other 0.0 Alliances
That's about the point I stopped reading. NC alts make baby Chinese pseudo-Jesus cry.
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