There is speculation, though none of which confirmed, that Amarrian ground soldiers may soon be fitted with similar cloning technology as us capsuleers.

This can be rather alarming to enemies, or those unfriendly to the Empire. The Amarrian's superior numbers paired with extreme fanaticism and now the ability to join the immortals will give them a massive edge on the Battlefield.

It seems rather strange for Amarrians to adopt this rumored technology, seemingly before everyone else. Although Jamyl is a more progressive Empress, this is a completely unprecedented occurrence. This is even stranger because Amarrians have always frowned upon the use of cloning and have barely started to accept it. I guess this is too good of an opportunity to give up.

Discuss, keep in mind that nothing is confirmed but speculated.

"Sacred Flesh" applies only to Royalty. Amarrians have many opinions on the matter, and don't forget an entire Region (The Khanid Kingdom), embraces and encourages the technology.

As to your 'story' I'm sure you've some evidence?

Surely such a vast technological undertaking would raise some alarms in other governments? I'd imagine such a grand breakthrough, and the conflict that would surely result from such technology could scarcely be kept secret.

As to your 'story' I'm sure you've some evidence?

Surely such a vast technological undertaking would raise some alarms in other governments? I'd imagine such a grand breakthrough, and the conflict that would surely result from such technology could scarcely be kept secret.

Allow me to be clear:

There are numerous rumours regarding new military technology development of some kind, possibly stemming from events at a place called Pike's Landing in the Minmatar Republic.

As of yet, no solid, measurable evidence has been brought to light.

At all.

These rumours remain purely speculative

Allow me to be more clear: you are not correct in asserting that there has been "no evidence... at all." Your recognition of that evidence is not required.

Oh goody, another excuse for CONCORD to encourage pointless conflict with little value, progress or point as an industrial stimulator. No doubt these theoretical soldiers would be roped into the same net of contracts and caveats to render them toothless, then fed distractions to prevent them rocking the boat. Just how far is the assembly going to go in maintaining this farce? First we had capsuleer fleets clashing and doing nothing. Now we're going to have armies clashing and doing nothing, since there will be even fewer casualties. Aside from the local population.

Incorrect Farel. What keeps us all from killing each other is common sense and the military doctrine known as mutually assured destruction.

Incorrect Farel. What keeps us all from killing each other is common sense and the military doctrine known as mutually assured destruction.

I suppose you have proof then?

CONCORD is the only thing that prevents New Eden to fall in a total war, and also the only entity actively doing something against the Sansha Nation, even if that means counting exclusively on capsuleers.

Don't misunderstand me. CONCORD has a purpose. I just happen to believe that among those purposes, apart from preventing the mutual annihilation of large parts of the cluster, is giving us capsuleers pretty lights to chase with no functional value to the world at large.

The Sansha incursions are the latest convenient distraction; and for a change, it's actually a valuable effort for all concerned. The Empyrean wars are not. That CONCORD and the individual nations persist in funding and supporting them, despite their complete lack of progress or result, is surely proof enough that they're simply a means of keeping us quiet. Not to mention the charming ability to engender hatred, panic and unity at home, because The Enemy is At the Gate!

No, it really isn't. The whole concept is a joke in rather poor taste.

Lets be honest with ourselves here. Miniaturization of capsuler technology is - or was as rumors would have us believe - inevitable. That Amarr are the first to do this - or claim to do this - is not actually that surprising. The largest of the 5 empires with the most resources and man-power behind them, I would be surprised if they were not at the for-front of this line of research


In any case, if these rumors are true and I have no reason to doubt they are not then it will not be long before the other 3 empires aquire this technology as well. Once that has happend it is just a matter of time till this tech trickles down into the hands of capsulers like us.

I for one find it exciting to think how close we of neweaden are to literally curing death.

While I agree that it is a little surprising that this lead has apparently happened in clone tech and mind transfer (areas of reserch that traditionally grated against Amarrian belief) all it really shows is a progression and adaptation of Amarrian thinking. At the risk of offending people perhaps one day Amarr will evolve into a secular power and join the rest of the cluster in a modern, enlightened age.

It's a little surprising because for the past few centuries or so, Gallente and Caldari (century in the Caldari's case) scientist have generally been the leading the new technological breakthroughs (discounting whatever the Jovians have), Amarrians haven't jumped to adapt new technology first since they rediscovered interstellar travel. While they can be more than capable of leading in almost every field, yet the strict theocracy makes it difficult for intellectuals to show the cluster what they are capable of.

UshraGÇÖKhan finds this news alarming, and as such we have dispatched agents of our own to verify the validity of this claim. If they do find supporting information, they have been instructed to acquire this technology by any means necessary, so that the Minmatar Republic can build its own immortal army of Valklear Guard.

Amarrians haven't jumped to adapt new technology first since they rediscovered interstellar travel. While they can be more than capable of leading in almost every field, yet the strict theocracy makes it difficult for intellectuals to show the cluster what they are capable of.

So much prattling, and none of you have grasped the greatest implication of this new science:

Baseliners are completely obsolete. A superior being can now be created.

These baseline cyborgs can not fly a capsule, though.

They don't need capsules at all. True, their interfaces will be programmed for planetary vehicles, but that is an implementation detail that could be easily addressed by clever software engineers. Really, we ourselves won't need pods for more than escape and shuttle services. Frankly, I'm looking forward draining all this goo.

Eventually, one might imagine that spacecraft crews will be fitted with similar technology as well, reducing the numbers needed to service a vessel, and greatly improving the survival rates.

Of course they do not need capsules. They do not fly spaceships. This is what the primary role of a capsule is.

CONCORD is the only thing that prevents New Eden to fall in a total war, and also the only entity actively doing something against the Sansha Nation, even if that means counting exclusively on capsuleers.

The non-Capsuleer navies are typically committed to planetary defences, even when their vessels are not crippled by Sansha electronic warfare that is prevalent in the areas targeted by Nation. The Republic Fleet, or their counterparts, is often rendered incapable of meaningful opposition. And so it falls to the Capsuleers. Even our ships can suffer systems disruption while an Incursion is in full force, it isn't until the Nation forces have been weakened that this eases off.

I'll pull all my black market scientists off their current "create the strongest crack in the galaxy" project, and put them on this.