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Huan Hunglong
Intensive CareBearz
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Posted - 2008.09.17 07:08:00 -
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 Originally by: les mots
Punctuation, proper grammatical structure, and syntax would go far in helping you get your point across.
Sincerely,
les mots
Unlike some people (One can make any number of assumptions as to who I am referencing here, generally, they will be correct) the OP tends to leave his guns to get his point across for him.
Sincerely,
Huan Hunglong
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Evanade
Rionnag Alba
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.09.17 07:32:00 -
[32]
My summary:
[19:30]
Original OP scheduled, after some delay a gang sets off to WH, no caps, so i switch to my falcon alt
[20:00-21:00]
A few stragglers in an around WH get ganked by us. Our own gang iis at 70-ish, but spread across multiple systems, WH local is at about 100 wiht 50/50 hostiles/friendlies.
[21:00]
Someone on TS: (in a cool, chilled voice) 'hey guys be careful in WH with that carrier outside' and soon the first carrier goes down just outside dockrange of WH station. This was by far the most hilarious moment of the night as it was quiet on ts, then an interruption with notice of carrier, then twink going completely mental because he was somewhere else and didn't know about it. Meanwhile, Tzadkiel (avatar) is kept on watch at his POS as i warp in between of the station to get a few jams off and back to his pos to check what he's doing, but he stays put for now.
[21:00 - 21:30]
A few carirers warp to station and start engaging our gang. At this point we have the upper hand in terms of numbers but more caps start dropping out at the station rapidly. With a Hel and about 6 carriers bubbled without us breaking their spidertank, the call for reinforcements comes, and BOB enters the field with around 40-ish (unsure). We start pounding away on the carrier but still the spider tanks holds and ever more carriers and motherships start appearing at the jumpbridge.
[21:30-22:00]
A 50-odd man hostile gang comes in, some nano some snipe bs, and joins the fun at the station, putting local to just over 200.
[22:00]
More bob reinforcements arrive, carnage at the station is complete with three motherships, close to two-dozen carriers and an 80 odd support fighting our 80 man nano gang + bob (unsure of their exact numbers). We start wearing down their support which is proving difficult as lag gets worse and BOB is also showing neutral (doh) but we are to ignore them for now serving the higher purpose (mutilating teh nc)
[22:58]
Deki (ragnarok), after logging in and sitting at his POS for awhile, warps to station and DD's. Due to preliminary warning he misses our fleet, but makes it out before being tackled. He joins Tzadkiel at the POS.
[23:15]
Tzadkiel warps to station at 0, sits there for awhile then DD's. Misses our fleet again and gets tackled. What happens next is uncertain to me but he gets it out (fail)
[23:20]
With reports of a large hositle fleet coming from D7 positions are taken on that gate. Some of their carriers warp to the gate, unsure how/where/why because i wasnt there at the time. After awhile they start warping out again and some are caught in bubbles off the station, but the spidertank is still strong.
[23:25]
Chimera logs with aggro at the station, warps off and gets probed, us and bob sweep in for the kill while some of the carriers and ms at the station start to deaggro and dock/warp out.
[23:30 - 24:00]
Two carriers are caught off the group at the station and killed. Meanwhile, more hostile reinforcements arrive/logon including a third titan (CO2). Just after 24:00 he DD's the station killing about half of ours and bobs gang.
I logged nextdoor at 24:10, dont know what happened later still, some of the times may be off as killmails were sent late / not at all / etc. but it was pretty damn' fun, lag cleared up near the end. I spent most of my time warping around POSes keeping an eye on the titans and probing people.
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Vuk Lau
4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.09.17 07:42:00 -
[33]
I joined after 30 minutes of the actual start after being smsed and called by dozen of ppl :D
It was generaly playable (dozen of ppl desynced here and there, but its not anything CCP already didnt made us used to), except bunch off ppl couldnt log in. I think NC took more losses (still didnt checked all killboards for losses) but it was 4 hours of constant fight on station, 3 doomsdays (or more) went off, skirmishes on planets and gates.
Anyway gf for all who participated.
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Evil Pookie
BURN EDEN
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.09.17 07:52:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Vuk Lau
I joined after 30 minutes of the actual start after being smsed and called by dozen of ppl :D
It was generaly playable (dozen of ppl desynced here and there, but its not anything CCP already didnt made us used to), except bunch off ppl couldnt log in. I think NC took more losses (still didnt checked all killboards for losses) but it was 4 hours of constant fight on station, 3 doomsdays (or more) went off, skirmishes on planets and gates.
Anyway gf for all who participated.
So lets recap, in your own cyno jammed system, with 3 active titans, multiple carriers for support and superior numbers you think you got more kills than losses...... You think you got more kills than losses...... 
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Bagger Vance
Pernicious Creed
Vendetta Alliance.
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Posted - 2008.09.17 07:55:00 -
[35]
Originally by: Evil Pookie
Originally by: Vuk Lau
I joined after 30 minutes of the actual start after being smsed and called by dozen of ppl :D
It was generaly playable (dozen of ppl desynced here and there, but its not anything CCP already didnt made us used to), except bunch off ppl couldnt log in. I think NC took more losses (still didnt checked all killboards for losses) but it was 4 hours of constant fight on station, 3 doomsdays (or more) went off, skirmishes on planets and gates.
Anyway gf for all who participated.
So lets recap, in your own cyno jammed system, with 3 active titans, multiple carriers for support and superior numbers you think you got more kills than losses...... You think you got more kills than losses......
you fail at reading
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Gumpy Nighthawk
Amarr
Octavian Vanguard
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.17 07:56:00 -
[36]
Originally by: Evil Pookie
Originally by: Vuk Lau
I joined after 30 minutes of the actual start after being smsed and called by dozen of ppl :D
It was generaly playable (dozen of ppl desynced here and there, but its not anything CCP already didnt made us used to), except bunch off ppl couldnt log in. I think NC took more losses (still didnt checked all killboards for losses) but it was 4 hours of constant fight on station, 3 doomsdays (or more) went off, skirmishes on planets and gates.
Anyway gf for all who participated.
So lets recap, in your own cyno jammed system, with 3 active titans, multiple carriers for support and superior numbers you think you got more kills than losses...... You think you got more kills than losses......
Go back to school and learn how to read, silly troll. He says we got more losses then you did.
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Evil Pookie
BURN EDEN
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.09.17 08:11:00 -
[37]
So lets recap, in your own cyno jammed system, with 3 active titans, multiple carriers for support and superior numbers you think you took more losses than kills...... You think you took more losses than kills......
is it just me or is this worse? 
failnc is fail at everything cept reading comprehension......
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Le Cardinal
ECP Rogues
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Posted - 2008.09.17 08:24:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Evil Pookie
Edited by: Evil Pookie on 17/09/2008 08:17:42
So lets recap, in your own cyno jammed system, with 3 active titans, multiple carriers for support and superior numbers you think you took more losses than kills...... You think you took more losses than kills......
is it just me or is this worse?
failnc is fail at everything cept reading comprehension......
but their word is still good right....... right......
Stop replying. Each time you write something you make yourself look even dumber.
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Bagger Vance
Pernicious Creed
Vendetta Alliance.
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Posted - 2008.09.17 08:30:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Le Cardinal
Stop replying. Each time you write something you make yourself look even dumber.
do'nt think he can make it much worse at this point 
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Centauris
Thundercats
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.17 08:33:00 -
[40]
Nice write up mate.
TC4LIFE
I Am The LOL Generation |
Le Cardinal
ECP Rogues
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Posted - 2008.09.17 08:39:00 -
[41]
Originally by: Bagger Vance
Originally by: Le Cardinal
Stop replying. Each time you write something you make yourself look even dumber.
do'nt think he can make it much worse at this point
Just wait and see
Anyways, sounds like you all had a good fight. Bit hard to understand all the smacking here since all get what they want. But that is the nature of eve. Smack when you dont get fights, and put ppl down when you finally get them.
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ArchenTheGreat
Caldari
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.09.17 08:50:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Zandramus
ok so here it goes.....
Oh God, please let the Darknesss write this stuff. Or at least someone with half a brain. I couldn't read this crap.
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Joram McRory
Caldari
eXceed Inc.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.09.17 09:28:00 -
[43]
A mixed night for me.
I was in an eagle to start with and things were going well. We popped the first carrier then after a pause we were shooting the second. We knew the remote rep from the incomming carriers would save it so the FC sceamed "Overlod your guns kill kill kill...." or words to that effect. I did, then got a spike of lag and they burnt out. We didn't kill it in time.
So off to TVN to get something I could shoot with. As the lag wasn't too bad and I thought it would be a quickish fight then back to roaming I came back in an Ishtar, got on a few mails then the lag hit and my drones went awol. Tried to launch more bouncers.............. 20 mins later the 1st one launched... then a bit later another popped out....
This went on for a while until they were all out scattered everywhere and not doing any good.
00:30 ish I need to log to sleep so I warp to the OJ gate into a swarm of reds, jump, lag...... I sit there for 20 mins and assume I'm dead so log off and go to bed.
I just logged on in OJ and my ship is still there!!!!!!!! The reds must have been as lagged as me :-)
Good fight to all involved. This was one of those battles where it really doesn't matter who won :-D Though for the record I think we did.
Joram
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LoveKebab
coracao ardente
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.09.17 11:40:00 -
[44]
Edited by: LoveKebab on 17/09/2008 11:41:59
Originally by: Evanade
I logged nextdoor at 24:10,
more like 0:10 :P
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CHIKA QRE
MAX-Fail agency
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Posted - 2008.09.17 12:47:00 -
[45]
According to RZR killboard, that apparently is in sync with all NC killboards, NC killed 184 ships and lost 116 with isk loss being somewhat equal (slightly in favour of NC). So killing carriers in expencive hacs and recons is not really rentable. Also don't forget that NC held the field and looted what tri pilots didn't pop (its seems they were too busy killing wrecks at one point in time).
Another NC victory it seems. Payed by 4 carriers but well deserved. I wonder how many pets will be asking themselves was this worth it at all, loosing all those ships just to achieve nothing, loose a battle and improve NC morale. The fact that combined force of tri and gbc was not enough to defeat scattered and disorganized NC forces is a stong signal of what current state of MAX is.
Lets also not forget that PURE forces were almost not present since they are stuck defending their home. Imagine if PURE was able to dedicate fully to last nights fight or overal Tribute defence. Tough times incoming for gbc and if tri can't beat NC with bob around what will they do once max-goes-home?
Now is there anyone who will deny that NC won last nights fight? And be very carefull in stating your evdence since killboards speak for themselves. Also many titan killmails never got generated in the lag (an old and known bug) so you can safely add another 20-30 losses for gbctri also.
Good job NC.
On the other hand there are some rumours that pets are complaning how they are not allowed to recuperate from max since various hostile gangs are laying waste to all carebearism in their home systems. Some pet internal posts surfaced on kugutsman forums for all who don't believe what I'm saying, go see for yourself.
MAX - Immature cry for attention
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Deva Blackfire
D00M.
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Posted - 2008.09.17 12:58:00 -
[46]
Originally by: CHIKA QRE
According to RZR killboard, that apparently is in sync with all NC killboards, NC killed 184 ships and lost 116 with isk loss being somewhat equal (slightly in favour of NC). So killing carriers in expencive hacs and recons is not really rentable. Also don't forget that NC held the field and looted what tri pilots didn't pop (its seems they were too busy killing wrecks at one point in time).
Dunno about the numbers. Checking MM killboard (+ adding rzr losses) we lost more ships but got more ISK-wise (think 8b lost to 10b killed or sth like that). But was close one.
As for killing carriers in "expensive" HACs - i know you like to fly your t1 cruisers but they DO NOT get job done. You know what would be the difference if we brought 150 battlecruisers/cruisers? We would lose most/all of em and not accomplish anything. Also HACs might be expensive for your average carebear who barely has isk for 1 fleet BS.
Most (if not all) TRI pilots are so called "self sufficient" thus we pretty much dont even need space (for NPCing and stuff) to replace ship losses - it just helps a little with the tedious process (+helps those few who arent 100% self sufficient).
Also that is the reason why you always see TRi in hacs/recons. Didnt it surprise you that even after we lose 200+ "expensive t2 ships" we still bring more? Thus your logic fails.
As for wrecks - im not sure if NC managed to get 100mil ISK (yes thats less whole 1 HAC) from all wrecks that remained. We killed over 90% of them iirc.
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Another NC victory it seems. Payed by 4 carriers but well deserved. I wonder how many pets will be asking themselves was this worth it at all, loosing all those ships just to achieve nothing, loose a battle and improve NC morale.
Cap ship kill in cyno jammed system >>> any other kill or HAC loss. I would do this every day tbh if NC is willing to lose 5 caps for same losses on our side. We can see who will run dry 1st.
fake EDIT:
i just saw you are same stupid alt from before. O well cba to delete all my response (wasted time i might aswell post it now) but thats last time from me.
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CHIKA QRE
MAX-Fail agency
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Posted - 2008.09.17 13:10:00 -
[47]
Well when you loose a carrier in a belt ratting what does that make you? At least NC took down almost 200 ships with those carriers just to show you whos boss in their own house.
Also don't talk too much about TRI flying only expensive ships, plenty of t1 battlecruisers and cruises on those battle reports on your side as well. Makes you look silly when you claim that you always come back in best ships ever. In fact most of you replaced polycarbon rigs for auxiliary thruster rigs long time ago, less efective but much cheaper (about the only smart thing one can attach to you lately).
MAX - Immature cry for attention
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Deva Blackfire
D00M.
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Posted - 2008.09.17 13:12:00 -
[48]
Originally by: CHIKA QRE
diarrhoea of words
Use main so i might bother to read this.
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bitters much
Nekkid Inc.
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Posted - 2008.09.17 13:18:00 -
[49]
Originally by: CHIKA QRE
I¦m a bitter NC pilot who lost his home and all my assets are stuck in a "now" hostile station but I feel much better when I can spin NCs achivements left and right with my new created alt
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Wesley Baird
Order and Chaos
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Posted - 2008.09.17 13:41:00 -
[50]
Originally by: CHIKA QRE
According to RZR killboard, that apparently is in sync with all NC killboards, NC killed 184 ships and lost 116 with isk loss being somewhat equal (slightly in favour of NC). So killing carriers in expencive hacs and recons is not really rentable. Also don't forget that NC held the field and looted what tri pilots didn't pop (its seems they were too busy killing wrecks at one point in time).
Another NC victory it seems. Payed by 4 carriers but well deserved. I wonder how many pets will be asking themselves was this worth it at all, loosing all those ships just to achieve nothing, loose a battle and improve NC morale. The fact that combined force of tri and gbc was not enough to defeat scattered and disorganized NC forces is a stong signal of what current state of MAX is.
Lets also not forget that PURE forces were almost not present since they are stuck defending their home. Imagine if PURE was able to dedicate fully to last nights fight or overal Tribute defence. Tough times incoming for gbc and if tri can't beat NC with bob around what will they do once max-goes-home?
Now is there anyone who will deny that NC won last nights fight? And be very carefull in stating your evdence since killboards speak for themselves. Also many titan killmails never got generated in the lag (an old and known bug) so you can safely add another 20-30 losses for gbctri also.
Good job NC.
On the other hand there are some rumours that pets are complaning how they are not allowed to recuperate from max since various hostile gangs are laying waste to all carebearism in their home systems. Some pet internal posts surfaced on kugutsman forums for all who don't believe what I'm saying, go see for yourself.
So you are the new alt de jour to keep up the NC morale eh?!
Well, that is an interesting spin you have...how about this one...
WH home of the grand army of the north, protecting the NC! Most caps stationed in that cyno-jammed system...with 3 titans, 20 or so carriers, and you actually took more losses in terms of isk, and just barely had more kills...with 3 DD's...and you are claiming to be the boss?!!?
Lets at least pretend you aren't biased...when fleets come in your space, and do that kind of damage to you, while you have active titans, caps and supercaps, and you barely stay even, that is hardly a victory...what would happen if that jammer was down and the capital blob came?!?! If you can barely hold the field vs Nano?!!? When the real heat comes you will melt if that is your idea of success...Try as you might, everyone, including your own members can clearly see, that with all the advantages the game mechanics provide you barely hang on, what will be the result of the fight when the heat comes!?!? Oh, lets not forget that Pure lost their sov 4, and many many pos's were popped and reinforced etc...so GBC and Tri forces had some fun pew pew, after the tedious work of taking your space was done for a few hours...
Spin Spin Spin NC alt...everyone knows what this means...when you basically cant control your own NC HQ...and lost caps even under the protection of multiple titans, moms and 20 or so other caps...
Really didnt want to post the above, as it sounds like it was a good fun fight for all...so better to just enjoy the fun rather than try to take meaning from the fight...but if anyone believes this shows the NC are doing well, you aren't looking at the facts, as doing well would have been to slaughter the attacker...not lose the isk war, and barely win the kill/death ratio...
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Niraco79
Gallente
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.09.17 13:46:00 -
[51]
Originally by: CHIKA QRE
At least NC took down almost 200 ships with those carriers just to show you whos boss in their own house.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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ArchenTheGreat
Caldari
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.09.17 13:46:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Deva Blackfire
i just saw you are same stupid alt from before. O well cba to delete all my response (wasted time i might aswell post it now) but thats last time from me.
Use Firefox and Greasemonkey with CAOD Cleaner script. It brings killfile to the CAOD. You can block all alts/Goons/morons by name, corp or alliance.
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CHIKA QRE
MAX-Fail agency
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Posted - 2008.09.17 13:50:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Wesley Baird
...and you actually took more losses in terms of isk, and just barely had more kills...
One lie after another. ISK war was won by NC and NC killed 184 loosing 116 ships (pods included). Just check killboards, I even managed to find an NC combined one hosted by razor (use google if all else fails). Thats 68 ships more killed or 50% more then what you killed. And you call describe it as "barely"? You also killed one carrier that logged off and 2 that got desynced. High level of skills involved.
However you spin this you lost, fled with your tails between your legs with more then half of your fleet destroyed looting nothing and achiving nothing, pulling your pets even more into isk sink you call MAX.
MAX - Immature cry for attention
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Gumpy Nighthawk
Amarr
Octavian Vanguard
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.17 13:51:00 -
[54]
Edited by: Gumpy Nighthawk on 17/09/2008 13:50:48
Originally by: Wesley Baird
Originally by: CHIKA QRE
So you are the new alt de jour to keep up the NC morale eh?!
Well, that is an interesting spin you have...how about this one...
WH home of the grand army of the north, protecting the NC! Most caps stationed in that cyno-jammed system...with 3 titans, 20 or so carriers, and you actually took more losses in terms of isk, and just barely had more kills...with 3 DD's...and you are claiming to be the boss?!!?
Lets at least pretend you aren't biased...when fleets come in your space, and do that kind of damage to you, while you have active titans, caps and supercaps, and you barely stay even, that is hardly a victory...what would happen if that jammer was down and the capital blob came?!?! If you can barely hold the field vs Nano?!!? When the real heat comes you will melt if that is your idea of success...Try as you might, everyone, including your own members can clearly see, that with all the advantages the game mechanics provide you barely hang on, what will be the result of the fight when the heat comes!?!? Oh, lets not forget that Pure lost their sov 4, and many many pos's were popped and reinforced etc...so GBC and Tri forces had some fun pew pew, after the tedious work of taking your space was done for a few hours...
Spin Spin Spin NC alt...everyone knows what this means...when you basically cant control your own NC HQ...and lost caps even under the protection of multiple titans, moms and 20 or so other caps...
Really didnt want to post the above, as it sounds like it was a good fun fight for all...so better to just enjoy the fun rather than try to take meaning from the fight...but if anyone believes this shows the NC are doing well, you aren't looking at the facts, as doing well would have been to slaughter the attacker...not lose the isk war, and barely win the kill/death ratio...
According to bob it's all about the k/d and to be honest we killed more then we lost, so with the bob logic in place we won and since bob controls everything in eve it really means we won this fight ;)
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CHIKA QRE
MAX-Fail agency
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Posted - 2008.09.17 14:02:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Niraco79
Originally by: CHIKA QRE
At least NC took down almost 200 ships with those carriers just to show you whos boss in their own house.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Which part is more funnier, that you got decimated by NC who you claim is already dead or that you combined your forces with TRI and still got decimated? I agree, plenty of comedy involved. When you ganked TRI carrier how many ships did you loose? Tells you a lot about how certain alliances defend their space.
MAX - Immature cry for attention
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Gjs312
coracao ardente
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.09.17 14:03:00 -
[56]
Originally by: CHIKA QRE
Another NC victory it seems.
Ok cool with us. Plz have more victories like this one, gl  .
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Maximillian Bayonette
White Lion Manufacture and Salvage
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Posted - 2008.09.17 14:08:00 -
[57]
Originally by: CHIKA QRE
Which part is more funnier, that you got decimated by NC who you claim is already dead or that you combined your forces with TRI and still got decimated? I agree, plenty of comedy involved. When you ganked TRI carrier how many ships did you loose? Tells you a lot about how certain alliances defend their space.
I think that the funniest part is that if you take a look at the actual involved parties, you will find a NC carrier on the GBC/TRI side. If you then discount that and various other NC members who has wound up on the GBC/TRI side, you will find that GBC/TRI won the isk war in this fight despite being outnumbered, in a cyno jammed system, up against 3 titans and a bunch of caps. I think that pretty much proves the NC failed here.
But what do I know? I'm just a BoB alt, right?
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Wesley Baird
Order and Chaos
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Posted - 2008.09.17 14:14:00 -
[58]
Originally by: CHIKA QRE
Originally by: Wesley Baird
...and you actually took more losses in terms of isk, and just barely had more kills...
One lie after another. ISK war was won by NC and NC killed 184 loosing 116 ships (pods included). Just check killboards, I even managed to find an NC combined one hosted by razor (use google if all else fails). Thats 68 ships more killed or 50% more then what you killed. And you call describe it as "barely"? You also killed one carrier that logged off and 2 that got desynced. High level of skills involved.
However you spin this you lost, fled with your tails between your legs with more then half of your fleet destroyed looting nothing and achiving nothing, pulling your pets even more into isk sink you call MAX.
Your bar for victory is extremely low if you think given all the advantages you had and seem to ignore, that this was a victory...
I don't want to degrade this thread more than it is...the pilots involved had fun, and that is the whole point...
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Maliece
Decadence.
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.17 14:20:00 -
[59]
Edited by: Maliece on 17/09/2008 14:21:01
caps and DD are not really good against nano stuff, and nano stuff is not a smart choice to go for a jammer pos.... playing hide and hit and claiming victory will not work forever my litte tri friends ;-)
btw. the rzr/nc kb is not really accurate but maybe the most accurate source atm, its still missing the looses and kills of some allys it think
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lonesomegirl
Amarr
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.09.17 14:24:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Maliece
Edited by: Maliece on 17/09/2008 14:21:01
btw. the rzr/nc kb is not really accurate but maybe the most accurate source atm, its still missing the looses and kills of some allys it think
Stop saying it's accurate when you yourself said it's missing looses and kills.
Bottom line players who participated had fun. Hope to read more battle like this.
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