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Daneirkus Auralex
The Foreign Legion
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.03.28 03:01:00 -
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PLANETS!
Especially if we're manufacturing DUST items and want to sell them on a planet.
Not that I manufacture anything - I don't. I just want to be able to warp to zero, enter geosynchronous orbit, request an approach vector, see an approach beacon represented in space, enter the atmosphere at that point, see flames scorch my rifter as I sear through the sky, and gaze at a distant DUST battle, watching the landscape bloom below me as I hurtle towards the surface.
IS THAT SO MUCH TO ASK????? (trololol)
No but really, I really do want to experience those things. |
Micheal Dietrich
Standards and Practices
160
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Posted - 2012.03.28 03:16:00 -
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Our ships are about as aerodynamic as a boulder, not to mention they all lack aileron and elevator controls which means we'll have about as much control as a boulder too. |
Daneirkus Auralex
The Foreign Legion
Test Alliance Please Ignore
41
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Posted - 2012.03.28 03:20:00 -
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Micheal Dietrich wrote:Our ships are about as aerodynamic as a boulder, not to mention they all lack aileron and elevator controls which means we'll have about as much control as a boulder too.
Meh. I see your point, but I might be willing to grant license and overlook that. After all, we're all actually flying submarines. |
Tyler Rainez
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Posted - 2012.03.28 03:21:00 -
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Micheal Dietrich wrote:Our ships are about as aerodynamic as a boulder, not to mention they all lack aileron and elevator controls which means we'll have about as much control as a boulder too.
I lol'd in RL  |
Suttin Inkura
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.03.28 03:22:00 -
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Micheal Dietrich wrote:Our ships are about as aerodynamic as a boulder, not to mention they all lack aileron and elevator controls which means we'll have about as much control as a boulder too.
I was going to make this post about how ships dont have heat shields either, then I didnt. But yes, your ship would act like a boulder. |
Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
482
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Posted - 2012.03.28 03:22:00 -
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I want to dock your mom. Think about the poor super babes.
shiptoastin' liek a baws |
Riley Moore
Sentinum Research
386
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Posted - 2012.03.28 03:23:00 -
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According to EVE lore (correct me on this where needed), tritanium is very reactive with oxygen. So getting your ship into the planets atmosphere is pretty much suicide.
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Fredfredbug4
Kings of Kill
EVE Animal Control
152
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Posted - 2012.03.28 03:29:00 -
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Our ships would fall like a brick, if they even had a chance to fall before spontaneously combusting. |
Daneirkus Auralex
The Foreign Legion
Test Alliance Please Ignore
41
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Posted - 2012.03.28 03:29:00 -
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Well then. Now that you all have sufficiently sh*t on my vision, I hereby demand a new class of ship. =)
Edit: After all, I presume people get from the surface to planet in some way or another.. Whats the opposite of a drop ship? |
Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
482
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Posted - 2012.03.28 03:43:00 -
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Daneirkus Auralex wrote:Well then. Now that you all have sufficiently sh*t on my vision, I hereby demand a new class of ship. =)
Edit: After all, I presume people get from the surface to planet in some way or another.. Whats the opposite of a drop ship?
Infested Elevator?
shiptoastin' liek a baws |
Micheal Dietrich
Standards and Practices
160
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Posted - 2012.03.28 03:47:00 -
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I would presume that would be a shuttle which coincidentally enough look like they would actually be able to handle atmosphere. |
masternerdguy
Inner Shadow
NightSong Directorate
59
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Posted - 2012.03.28 03:48:00 -
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I wouldn't want to take a osprey into an atmosphere.
Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Ris Dnalor
Black Rebel Rifter Club
271
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Posted - 2012.03.28 04:01:00 -
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Micheal Dietrich wrote:Our ships are about as aerodynamic as a boulder, not to mention they all lack aileron and elevator controls which means we'll have about as much control as a boulder too.
so get a shield booster and a thermal shield hardner for re-entry?
Save the Miners! |
masternerdguy
Inner Shadow
NightSong Directorate
59
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Posted - 2012.03.28 04:02:00 -
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Ris Dnalor wrote:Micheal Dietrich wrote:Our ships are about as aerodynamic as a boulder, not to mention they all lack aileron and elevator controls which means we'll have about as much control as a boulder too. so get a shield booster and a thermal shield hardner for re-entry?
Unless you're in the Voyager engineering crew I don't think you can get the shield generator to work like that.
Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Ris Dnalor
Black Rebel Rifter Club
271
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Posted - 2012.03.28 04:06:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:Ris Dnalor wrote:Micheal Dietrich wrote:Our ships are about as aerodynamic as a boulder, not to mention they all lack aileron and elevator controls which means we'll have about as much control as a boulder too. so get a shield booster and a thermal shield hardner for re-entry? Unless you're in the Voyager engineering crew I don't think you can get the shield generator to work like that.
yea, I'm just saying I could ignore the improbability in order to enjoy the ride 
Save the Miners! |
Micheal Dietrich
Standards and Practices
160
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Posted - 2012.03.28 04:11:00 -
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Ris Dnalor wrote:Micheal Dietrich wrote:Our ships are about as aerodynamic as a boulder, not to mention they all lack aileron and elevator controls which means we'll have about as much control as a boulder too. so get a shield booster and a thermal shield hardner for re-entry?
So some may disagree with me on the oh **** moment, it's not the entry that I'm concerned with, but rather the sudden stop at the end. like I said, without aileron or elevator controls we have about as much control as a rocket propelled rock.
Capt. Malcolm Reynolds: [Grabs PA microphone] This is the captain. We're having a little problem with our entry sequence, so we may experience some slight turbulence and then... explode.
[Hangs up microphone]
Capt. Malcolm Reynolds: Can you shave the vector?
Hoban 'Wash' Washburn: I'm doing it, it's not enough.
Capt. Malcolm Reynolds: Well, just get us on the ground.
Hoban 'Wash' Washburn: That part'll happen pretty definitely. |
Jed Mosley
One For A Point Two For A Slap
Extinct Darkness
19
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Posted - 2012.03.28 04:18:00 -
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Riley Moore wrote:According to EVE lore (correct me on this where needed), tritanium is very reactive with oxygen. So getting your ship into the planets atmosphere is pretty much suicide.
This is correct. |
Henry Haphorn
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
270
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Posted - 2012.03.28 04:21:00 -
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I'm more inclined to see myself docked inside a POS rather than a planet. Planets are for Dust Bunnies after all.
Welcome to Eve Online. Don't expect people to be nice to you. |
Montevius Williams
Eclipse Industrial Inc
240
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Posted - 2012.03.28 04:49:00 -
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tritanium is the bane of all EVE ships. |
Nedes Betternaem
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
47
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Posted - 2012.03.28 05:04:00 -
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Jed Mosley wrote:Riley Moore wrote:According to EVE lore (correct me on this where needed), tritanium is very reactive with oxygen. So getting your ship into the planets atmosphere is pretty much suicide. This is correct.
The thing I have always wondered about this, if tritanium is so reactive to oxygen, why don't EvE weapons expose this oxygen weakness? For instance, missile warheads that create a cloud of oxygen around the target ship, causing the ship to instantly explode as the hull reacts with the oxygen? |
Romar Agent
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2012.03.28 05:17:00 -
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At least Elite 3 (Frontiers : First Encounters) had docking in planetary bases (hangars) and open starports.
That was the thing I missed when I started EVE  |
Copine Callmeknau
Kangaroos With Frickin Lazerbeams
Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
58
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Posted - 2012.03.28 05:27:00 -
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Yeh considering EVE universe is apparently filled with 20W machine oil, I doubt realistic physics and aerodynamics is even a consideration on CCP's part.
So yeh, lol @ people saying it wouldn't work cause EVE ships can't maintain altitude in an atmosphere |
Spacing Cowboy
Ordo Drakonis
Nulli Secunda
30
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Posted - 2012.03.28 07:57:00 -
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But what's against launching a ship line that actually could do that.
Story wise easy to explain...
Or add a T3 only subsystem...
" atmospherical shielding/navigation/landing "
" ship with added capebility to navigate trough / around planet atmosphere".. |
Allko
Zero Tax services
2
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Posted - 2012.03.28 10:58:00 -
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The idea or possibility to land on a planed is hunting me since day one
The fact that Tritanium is unstable in oxygen environment actually is very good since it gives us the reason to create new ships which are build from different materials... and ta-da.. EVE already has meny types of planes. That means we have a good place where to look for these "new" materials. I can not imagine better way to begin a good trading between planets (DUST) and EVE (us).
It would create an industry nish for DUST and also for EVE players automatically.
I bet entering planets atmosphere ... docking ..etc would be really awsome experience
Imagine... planetary mining ships, outposts... a real need for hireing DUST mercs to secure the sector/planet ...etc etc etc
... ok, I better stop here or my head will expolde from ideas 
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Chopper Rollins
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
109
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Posted - 2012.03.28 11:14:00 -
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Daneirkus Auralex wrote:PLANETS!
Especially if we're manufacturing DUST items and want to sell them on a planet.
Not that I manufacture anything - I don't. I just want to be able to press the LAND button.
IS THAT SO MUCH TO ASK????? (trololol)
No but really, I really do want to experience those things.
FTFY
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good. |
Chopper Rollins
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
109
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Posted - 2012.03.28 11:15:00 -
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Allko wrote:... ok, I better stop here or my head will expolde from ideas
That might mess up your hair.
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good. |
Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
2013
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Posted - 2012.03.28 11:30:00 -
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Nedes Betternaem wrote:Jed Mosley wrote:Riley Moore wrote:According to EVE lore (correct me on this where needed), tritanium is very reactive with oxygen. So getting your ship into the planets atmosphere is pretty much suicide. This is correct. The thing I have always wondered about this, if tritanium is so reactive to oxygen, why don't EvE weapons expose this oxygen weakness? For instance, missile warheads that create a cloud of oxygen around the target ship, causing the ship to instantly explode as the hull reacts with the oxygen?
I can think of two good reason. First is that the weapons of EVE are actually very powerful. An anti-matter slug is going to do much more than cause instability in the hull. The second reason is, that while minerals are used in the construction of the ship, the ship is not made from minerals. Meaning you can't build a spaceship directly from minerals. You have process them further to other materials before you can build a spaceship from them and those materials have their own unique properties, like not exploding when put in contact with armospheric temperatures. |
Allko
Zero Tax services
2
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Posted - 2012.03.28 11:31:00 -
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Chopper Rollins wrote:Daneirkus Auralex wrote:PLANETS!
Especially if we're manufacturing DUST items and want to sell them on a planet.
Not that I manufacture anything - I don't. I just want to be able to press the LAND button.
IS THAT SO MUCH TO ASK????? (trololol)
No but really, I really do want to experience those things. FTFY
Yeah.. well ... If landing is just for "to look at" than IMO it`s a poor reason to ask CCP to implement that. |
Riley Moore
Sentinum Research
387
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Posted - 2012.03.28 11:35:00 -
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Destination SkillQueue wrote:Nedes Betternaem wrote:Jed Mosley wrote:Riley Moore wrote:According to EVE lore (correct me on this where needed), tritanium is very reactive with oxygen. So getting your ship into the planets atmosphere is pretty much suicide. This is correct. The thing I have always wondered about this, if tritanium is so reactive to oxygen, why don't EvE weapons expose this oxygen weakness? For instance, missile warheads that create a cloud of oxygen around the target ship, causing the ship to instantly explode as the hull reacts with the oxygen? I can think of two good reason. First is that the weapons of EVE are actually very powerful. An anti-matter slug is going to do much more than cause instability in the hull. The second reason is, that while minerals are used in the construction of the ship, the ship is not made from minerals. Meaning you can't build a spaceship directly from minerals. You have process them further to other materials before you can build a spaceship from them and those materials have their own unique properties, like not exploding when put in contact with armospheric temperatures.
The oxidation of the Tritanium in the composites doesn't happen instantly either. It's possible the oxidation takes hours.
Large volumes of highly researched Ammo, drones, charges and ship bpo's. Biggest BPO store in EVE!
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Sobach
Fourth Circle
Total Comfort
6
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Posted - 2012.03.28 11:40:00 -
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I doubt the aerodynamics of the ships would be an issue, the MCC in dust isn't exactly very aerodynamic either, and I'm pretty sure whatever manufacturing process that goes into building eve stuff changes the explode-with-oxygen property of tritanium, unless you all think that the dust stuff are going to be built with special minerals :P |
Steveir
Hagukure
Empire Industry
36
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Posted - 2012.03.28 12:02:00 -
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Daneirkus Auralex wrote:Well then. Now that you all have sufficiently sh*t on my vision, I hereby demand a new class of ship. =)
Edit: After all, I presume people get from the surface to planet in some way or another.. Whats the opposite of a drop ship?
How about a planet to planet hauler with smuggling option? |
J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
246
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Posted - 2012.03.28 12:20:00 -
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If tritanium + oxygen = bad ... wth do our crews breathe?
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Jerick Ludhowe
Purification of Eden
XIN DOA'ED
57
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Posted - 2012.03.28 12:24:00 -
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Suttin Inkura wrote:
I was going to make this post about how ships dont have heat shields either, then I didnt. But yes, your ship would act like a boulder.
I dno about you, but my ship rolls with 85%+ thermal resistance. That counts as a heat shield right?
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